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"A New York man who pleaded guilty to murder in Oregon in exchange for buckets of fried chicken will get calzones and pizza to go with his life sentence. Tremayne Durham, 33, of New York City, admitted last month that he fatally shot Adam Calbreath, 39, of Gresham, in June 2006. Durham wanted to sell ice cream and ordered an $18,000 truck from an Oregon company. He later changed his mind, but the company wouldn't provide a refund. The would-be ice cream man came to Oregon and killed Calbreath, a former employee of the company, while looking for its owner, authorities said. Durham agreed to plead guilty to murder -- but only if he could get a break from jail food. The judge agreed and granted Durham a feast of KFC chicken, Popeye's chicken, mashed potatoes, coleslaw, carrot cake and ice cream. After Wednesday's sentencing, Durham was to get the rest of the deal -- calzones, lasagna, pizza and ice cream, his defense attorney confirmed. They will pay the tab. Durham also got married Wednesday in a civil ceremony at the Portland courthouse. The wedding to Vanessa Davis, 48, also of New York City, was not part of the plea deal that will give Durham a chance for parole after 30 years. Deputy District Attorney Josh Lamborn said Multnomah County Judge Eric Bergstrom made the right call in allowing the unusual plea agreement because it saved the expense of a trial and possible appeals."

8/7/2008 9:57:03 AM

i hope he gets to prison and they don't give it to him...that's bs

8/7/2008 9:59:35 AM

if you know you're screwed you might as well get a meal you enjoy out of it

[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 10:01 AM. Reason : ^saved the taxpayers $texas]

8/7/2008 10:00:40 AM

Because one type of fried chicken just isn't enough.

8/7/2008 10:01:25 AM

i could go for a calzone strombolli and/or pizza right now

[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 10:02 AM. Reason : fuck calzones]

[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 10:02 AM. Reason : fuck formatting]

8/7/2008 10:02:24 AM

too bad they cant put poison in it

8/7/2008 10:02:28 AM

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"^saved the taxpayers $texas"

Exactly, spend a few hundred on a couple of fast food feasts, or spend many thousand on a lengthy trial?

This was a great idea

[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 10:04 AM. Reason : ]

8/7/2008 10:04:09 AM

Fuck calzones? You sir are crazy. You must not enjoy ricotta cheese.

8/7/2008 10:05:25 AM

I don't know that I like the message that this sends.

Fast food might not be a big deal, but what if they offered him a car? What if he plead guilty to a crime not because he did it, but because he was offered payment to do so? It seems like a slippery slope.

8/7/2008 10:10:28 AM

i think its kinda fucked up that jail food is so disgusting that someone would plead guilty to murder just to get something decent to eat

i hate it for all the people who are charged with crimes and have to defend themselves in an orange jumpsuit after sleeping on the floor and not eating well for however long

that's just fucked up

8/7/2008 10:14:38 AM

i bet he plead guilty to murder because he knew he was guilty and he knew they'd find him guilty.

in addition to a decent meal, i bet the plea bargain got him an easier sentence.

and jail isn't supposed to be enjoyable.

8/7/2008 10:16:56 AM

^^ American prisons are Club Med compared to what you'll find in most other parts of the world.

[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 10:18 AM. Reason : ^]

8/7/2008 10:18:37 AM

haha, I just read this morning that KFC is the most popular choice for a last meal among death row inmates.

8/7/2008 10:21:49 AM

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"and jail isn't supposed to be enjoyable."

of course jail isnt supposed to be fun

jail isn't supposed to be for innocent people, either. in other words, jail isn't supposed to be for people who haven't been convicted.

i can only imagine not being able to make bail, and preparing for trial from inside jail. that pretty much guarantees an improper defense and perpetuates the whole "guilty from the start" thing that the legal system/society has adopted.

i don't care what you "perfect citizens" say, you know i'm right and you know it's fucked up.

8/7/2008 10:25:03 AM

what would you set bond at for the man in this story, jackleg?

8/7/2008 10:26:38 AM

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"Because one type of fried chicken just isn't enough."

8/7/2008 10:27:13 AM

someone needs to put rat poison on his chicken.

8/7/2008 10:27:40 AM

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"what if they offered him a car?"

what good would a car be to a murderer with a life sentence?

8/7/2008 10:28:15 AM

maybe he could give it to someone on the outside?

8/7/2008 10:28:50 AM

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"what would you set bond at for the man in this story, jackleg?"

me personally, i'd be a fair judge/magistrate- and i would base it on the guy's income and assets and potential for flight.

i'd have to know more about him to honestly say. but you know damn well that 1,000,000 dollars for a rich man is potentially the same as 50k for a poor man... especially in terms of what would secure that they show up for court.

sorta like when my father posted 25k for me. i sure as hell didnt want to go to court, but i would have rather been convicted of a crime i didnt do and go to prison than cost my dad 25000 bucks. reasonable bond all depends on the situation and people.

the system needs some big time changes.

8/7/2008 10:29:56 AM

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"i can only imagine not being able to make bail, and preparing for trial from inside jail. that pretty much guarantees an improper defense and perpetuates the whole "guilty from the start" thing that the legal system/society has adopted."

I see your point jackleg, but I tend to think that the problem with jail isn't the jail or it's workings. The problem with jail is the people that are in jail. If you lock a bunch of fucked up people in a small area it's going to be a fucked up place. There is very little that you, I, or the jail administrators can do about it.

But I've never been to jail, so what do I know?

[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 10:37 AM. Reason : s]

8/7/2008 10:31:33 AM

i mean there are tons of things that they SHOULD take into consideration

did he turn himself in, whether or not he has a history of ditching court dates, witness safety, person(s) vouching for him, location during pre-trial release, etc etc etc

obviously if he has a history of skipping court dates, then he will likely forfeit his right to pre-trial release. you guys seem to forget that we're in 2008 and there are plenty of ways (house arrest etc) they can be sure he will show up, and not lock him in jail for 2 years while his trial is set up.

8/7/2008 10:35:50 AM

don't get me wrong, i see your point jackleg. i agree with a lot of what you said.

it's very difficult to measure "potential for flight" though. i mean the guy could run off and live on the lam and then you spend $texas on a manhunt for a murder suspect.

but yeah, i agree, the system needs work.



[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM. Reason : .]

8/7/2008 10:37:40 AM

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"you guys seem to forget that we're in 2008 and there are plenty of ways (house arrest etc) they can be sure he will show up"

good point. the electronic house arrest does work well, i guess.

8/7/2008 10:39:22 AM

My potential for flight is already a great risk and I'm not even on trial for anything (well, except a stop sign violation.) I mean, it wouldn't take much for me to hop on a boat and head way south already. I can only imagine if I had a lifetime in jail ahead of me. ::knockonwood::

8/7/2008 10:39:34 AM

gps tracking? haha

[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 10:41 AM. Reason : if you're on house arrest, it wouldn't really be "invasion of privacy"]

8/7/2008 10:40:52 AM

i know i base a lot of this off my own experience. some people can appreciate it, some people think its a grudge i hold. it's really not, though - because it ended up not hurting me cause i was lucky.

i just feel for the people who werent as lucky as me, and don't have anyone to help them. example:

in june 2004, i was arrested for felony hacking and placed on $15,000 secured bond. in may of 2007 the charges were thrown out of superior court. 3 full years later.

a whole lot of people dont have a way to come up with the 15% (2250 i think) to lose to a bondsman, and they certainly cant put up the whole 15k.

so, if my folks didn't put up that money for me, i would have sat in jail that whole time - without access to a lot of the information and stuff that was helpful in proving my innocence. i got lucky to have that help. there are hundreds of guys stuck in jail forever waiting for trials because they can't afford 15% of 1000 bucks! you wouldn't believe how many people go to court and get released immediately, because time served is already greater than the sentence.

its sickening to watch, really.

8/7/2008 10:46:18 AM

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"i know i base a lot of this off my own experience. some people can appreciate it, some people think its a grudge i hold. it's really not, though - because it ended up not hurting me cause i was lucky."

this is why i sincerely listen to what you have to say on these issues jackleg.

after reading your further explanation of your views, i find that we are in agreement. there are some serious issues that should be addressed to insure fairness for everyone.

sorry for sounding like a jackass with the "what would you do?" question

8/7/2008 10:53:41 AM

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"^^ American prisons are Club Med compared to what you'll find in most other parts of the world."

Some countries won't extradite do the united states because they believe that our prisons are inhumane.

8/7/2008 10:59:56 AM

dead men pay no bills, what a 'tard

8/7/2008 11:01:42 AM

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"^^ American prisons are Club Med compared to what you'll find in most other parts of the world."

this is one of the dumbest arguments ever. i don't even have to explain why.

8/7/2008 11:05:02 AM

GET A ROPE.

8/7/2008 11:08:59 AM

Hey how about that, a prison/crime thread on TWW where people spew their caveman sense of justice.

Here's a hint: you're as much a problem as the people committing the crimes. Your lust for punishment is pathetic.

8/7/2008 11:11:26 AM

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"Some countries won't extradite do the united states because they believe that our prisons are inhumane."

What countries?

8/7/2008 12:51:40 PM

8/7/2008 1:24:54 PM

dude plead guilty to murder

he's not some innocent guy locked up

Joe Arpaio wouldn't stand for that...he'd feed him the same green oxidized bologna sandwiches that he fed his other prisoners

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"you're as much a problem as the people committing the crimes"

the dude ordered an ice cream truck, changed his mind, and then decided to go cross country to murder an employee of the company...and he did...but TWW is just as bad for pointing it out?...wow you're retarded

8/7/2008 1:48:23 PM

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"What countries?"

Norway, for one.

The crime was murder.

8/7/2008 1:55:22 PM

i just wanna say that the first sentence of that article is one of the fuinniest things ive ever read

8/7/2008 1:56:13 PM

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"someone needs to put rat poison on his chicken."

bwahahaha...this comment has officially won the thread.

8/7/2008 1:59:41 PM

^^^ Okay.

That doesn't change the fact that I personally would rather spend time in an American prison than many of the other prisons in the world.

8/8/2008 11:50:52 PM

this guy needs a lawyer. what jury would believe someone was that crazy?

8/9/2008 12:13:28 AM