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Mr. Joshua
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I leaned against it and it beeped and said "Sabbath Mode" on the display. I had no idea what this was so I looked it up.

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"While raw food may not be cooked on the Shabbat, food that was already cooked beforehand may be kept warm until mealtime. On some holidays, food may be cooked fresh, but turning the heat on is prohibited. In the past, the problem could be solved simply by lighting a stove or oven before the day began, and using its heat over the course of the day. In recent decades, however, appliance manufacturers have instituted a safety feature that automatically shuts off the heat after a number of hours. This renders the appliance useless for those who observe these religious laws.

When an oven is in Shabbat mode, the standard six- or twelve-hour automatic shutoff is overridden, and all lights and displays (for example, a light that might go on when the door is opened) are disabled.

In more recently designed ovens, Shabbat mode will often feature the ability to adjust the temperature of the oven without any feedback to the operator of the oven. This is not relevant to the Shabbat, but is useful on some holidays, when adjusting the heat is allowed, but changing a digital readout on the control panel is not, according to the prevailing Orthodox opinion and the minority Conservative view.

With some Shabbat mode ovens that are controlled using a keypad to set the temperature, there is a pseudo-random delay triggered after a button is pressed before the temperature change takes place.

Those who feel that hitting the keypad closes a switch and that completing a circuit is not allowed, do have other options, such as the "Tweaker" which was featured on the Torah Technologies web site that emulates old manual ovens by adding a knob that confuses the accurate temperature measurement in a beneficial fashion.

In June 2008, a number of prominent poskim signed a public pronouncement (Kol Koreh) stating that it was unequivocally forbidden to raise or lower the temperature by reprogramming on Yom Tov using the Star-K approved Shabbat Mode feature.
The pronouncement referred to the long-held lenient opinion of Rabbi Moshe Heinemann as a minority opinion that should not be relied upon (Daas Yachid). However, it has been pointed out that Rabbi Heinemann's opinion is fully consistent with the rulings of Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_mode

Before today I had no idea that
a) oven technology was such a heated religious topic
b) the jews had infiltrated my kitchen appliances

1/13/2010 7:51:14 PM

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1/13/2010 7:53:15 PM

AxlBonBach
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Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest. That means that I don't work, I don't get in a car, I don't fucking ride in a car, I don't pick up the phone, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as shit don't fucking roll!

Shomer shabbos!

1/13/2010 7:53:46 PM

Mr. Joshua
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If they can't even reach a consensus on how to use the oven then how are they going to pull of 9/11?

1/13/2010 7:55:14 PM

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1/13/2010 7:55:58 PM

AxlBonBach
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That's easy.

Pay off the Muslims to do it for ya.

The Christians and Atheists won't know the difference.

[Edited on January 13, 2010 at 7:58 PM. Reason : Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax... ]

1/13/2010 7:56:22 PM

JCASHFAN
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So how is that going to affect this?

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" Israel is developing an army of robotic fighting machines that offers a window onto the potential future of warfare.

Sixty years of near-constant war, a low tolerance for enduring casualties in conflict, and its high-tech industry have long made Israel one of the world's leading innovators of military robotics.

"We're trying to get to unmanned vehicles everywhere on the battlefield for each platoon in the field," says Lt. Col. Oren Berebbi, head of the Israel Defense Forces' technology branch. "We can do more and more missions without putting a soldier at risk."

In 10 to 15 years, one-third of Israel's military machines will be unmanned, predicts Giora Katz, vice president of Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Ltd., one of Israel's leading weapons manufacturers."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126325146524725387.html?mod=e2tw

1/13/2010 7:58:46 PM

AxlBonBach
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^omg jewbots!

1/13/2010 7:59:37 PM

begonias
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at first I was like:



and then I was like:

1/13/2010 8:15:50 PM

marko
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a) is a glorious pun and i applaud you dear sir

1/13/2010 8:21:21 PM

Stein
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I had no idea about this.

Generally we just hire gentiles to do our bidding on the Sabbath.

1/13/2010 9:35:52 PM

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somebody should make a jew/oven holocaust joke and piss off mcdanger or god or whoever it is that freaks over holocaust jokes. i get them mixed up.

1/13/2010 9:52:51 PM

BobbyDigital
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dammit i came in here to post


"but does it have a Black Sabbath mode?"

1/13/2010 10:04:18 PM

moron
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to think… an oven can have a sabbath mode for 2% of the country, but if they were to put a spanish mode on the oven, people would flip out.

1/13/2010 10:07:27 PM

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"but if they were to put a spanish mode on the oven, people would flip out."


I don't think anyone would really give a damn if they put a spanish mode on an oven, you can make the menu on my TV display in Spanish and I've yet to see anyone riot over it

1/13/2010 10:10:01 PM

quagmire02
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and people make fun of christians

1/13/2010 10:34:28 PM

saps852
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wait....whats so bad about completing a circuit?

1/13/2010 10:48:46 PM

Jen
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does this mean you made cornbread?

1/13/2010 11:01:05 PM

th3oretecht
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEoN5Nx4u0w

1/13/2010 11:01:51 PM

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It will shut off if you try to bake pork chops

1/14/2010 12:05:13 AM

Mr. Joshua
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^^^ Oh hell no. I leaned against it by mistake.

1/14/2010 12:46:32 AM

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"a) is a glorious pun and i applaud you dear sir"

dammit marko

1/14/2010 1:57:19 AM

Mr. Joshua
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"A Shabbat mode refrigerator includes, at a minimum, the ability to disable all lights or other electrical activity from occurring when the refrigerator door is opened. Some Shabbat mode refrigerators include a timer for the compressor so that opening the door, which will normally indirectly cause the compressor to turn on as the temperature rises, will have absolutely no effect on any electrical operation of the appliance."

1/14/2010 12:48:49 PM

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for some reason i have a problem with doing everything you can to get around a religious thing like sabbath or fasting. it just doesn't seem very genuine. i don't do any of those things and i'm not religious...so...i guess my opinion doesn't count.

[tangent]i have friends who go to a christian church, the kind that screams, people rolling in the isles, speaking in tongues, etc. they fast every once in a while for a day or 2, and their preacher says they can only have liquids. soooo, they put food in the blender. that's cheating. you're missing the point of the fast.[/tangent]

[Edited on January 14, 2010 at 1:48 PM. Reason : ]

1/14/2010 1:36:48 PM

DeltaBeta
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Anybody who observes any religious tenet and therefore believes in any religion, is a moron.

1/14/2010 1:41:29 PM

FykalJpn
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do galils have a sabbath mode?

1/14/2010 1:44:44 PM

djeternal
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Well we all know how badly the Jews hate ovens



ZING!

1/14/2010 1:47:00 PM

Mr. Joshua
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http://torahtechnologies.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=27
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"Ten Questions to ask a Posek for the Shabbos Mode oven

2. Must food already be in the oven?


(Rav Mushell said no - it is okay for the oven to be empty, and to preheat food)"

1/14/2010 8:03:54 PM

LovedYoMoma
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At First I Was Like



And Then I Was Like



But Then I

1/14/2010 9:06:12 PM

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Quote :
"[tangent]i have friends who go to a christian church, the kind that screams, people rolling in the isles, speaking in tongues, etc. they fast every once in a while for a day or 2, and their preacher says they can only have liquids. soooo, they put food in the blender. that's cheating. you're missing the point of the fast.[/tangent]"


Agreed.

People like that are found in all religions. Know too many Muslims like that.

1/14/2010 9:12:00 PM

Mr. Joshua
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but then i sankakucomplex?

1/15/2010 12:30:36 AM

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