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BanjoMan
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If it is a given that we can talk about two different kinds of hip-hop or rap, then there is rap that black people tend to listen to and rap that white people tend to listen to.

Some examples of rap that black kids like are Rick Ross, Bun B, Juvenile, etc...

Respectively, assume that white kids are more fond of Wu Tang, DMX and Meth and Red.

Given those two different styles of rap, it seems to me that MC's use the word nigger or nigga much more frequently in the music that is listened to by white people.

Does this make any sense to anyone?

1/31/2010 4:22:13 PM

EuroTitToss
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ibtl

1/31/2010 4:22:50 PM

OldBlueChair
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k

1/31/2010 4:27:10 PM

BigEgo
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ibtmtcc

1/31/2010 4:27:29 PM

BanjoMan
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something wrong here?

1/31/2010 4:28:26 PM

khcadwal
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what

this thread is retarded

(and no one, white NOR black, listens to DMX anymore)

[Edited on January 31, 2010 at 4:29 PM. Reason : .]

1/31/2010 4:29:05 PM

wdprice3
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I listen to DMX.

1/31/2010 4:34:10 PM

BanjoMan
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threadworthy for sure

1/31/2010 4:35:38 PM

Ernie
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Look a guy made a thread about his dumb, unproven, inconsequential theory

1/31/2010 4:38:22 PM

th3oretecht
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"ibtmtcc"


also, gross generalizations ITT

1/31/2010 4:39:56 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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HOW COME BLACKS SAY NIGGER AND I CAN'T?

1/31/2010 4:43:03 PM

indy
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In my opinion, for as long as there are significant numbers of people that insist that the uttering of the word "nigger" is racist and should always be avoided and condemned, there will be racism.

1/31/2010 4:44:30 PM

BanjoMan
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its not about racism and nigger, its about where the word pops up in popular culture

I don't think that all black people are comfortable with that word, and that white people are tricked into thinking this by hearing it in what we think is black music that is actually more white than black.

[Edited on January 31, 2010 at 4:51 PM. Reason : d]

1/31/2010 4:46:55 PM

indy
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You know... Things aren't as "black and white" as you seem to think.

1/31/2010 4:57:45 PM

0EPII1
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"I don't think that all black people are comfortable with that word"


Almost all black people are not OK with whites using that word in their presence.
Most black people are OK with black-on-black usage of that word.

I know someone will come in all smartass and ask for proof.

You want proof? Walk the streets for a few years in a few diverse states.

1/31/2010 5:09:39 PM

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This has a very 'soap box' feel to it.

1/31/2010 5:35:08 PM

wahoowa
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ITT white people know what black people think

1/31/2010 5:37:33 PM

cyrion
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method man wants to know why you listed him twice as a rapper that appeals to whites.

1/31/2010 6:14:54 PM

mambagrl
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lol @ rick ross not using the n word

1/31/2010 6:20:43 PM

ncsuapex
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ibwral

1/31/2010 6:24:46 PM

eleusis
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lol at Rick Ross not saying nigga excessively in his music.

also, Bun B has probably made an entire album with a chopped and screwed recording of someone saying the word nigga.

For the ultimate in rap that white kids don't listen to, Nas named an entire album "Nigger" and proceeded to rap about fried chicken on it.

1/31/2010 8:31:54 PM

BridgetSPK
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I suspect black artists are very aware of the different demographics that different songs appeal to. Just because they know, and also because they screen the songs before they are released. And it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't purposefully make songs for mass play so they can make money in order to make less popular music that is more meaningful to them.

I always reach a wall where I'm like, "Track 1, I had my hands in the air like I just don't care. And track 2, I was saying Yeah! Track 3-10? Whoa, cannot relate, not meant for me..."

I dunno how the N-word plays into all this. I've read some quotes where artists are pretty forthcoming about making songs for mass appeal, but I've never heard anyone talk specifically about how they choose to use that word in order to appeal to different groups. Plus, it could be the other way around: white people seek out artists who use the N-word because they think it's more authentic.

1/31/2010 8:36:59 PM

lucyinthesky
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Stuffwhitepeoplelike.com

1/31/2010 8:52:24 PM

BubbleBobble
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IBT gunzz

1/31/2010 8:54:08 PM

EMCE
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I find numerous falsehoods in the OP. Too many, in fact, to carry on a meaningful conversation. So, in response:

1/31/2010 8:57:06 PM

ncsuapex
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iamtcc

1/31/2010 9:00:06 PM

khcadwal
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^^ me too

maybe white people listen to dmx

but white people are notorious (no no notoriousssss) for their poor artistic judgment.

[Edited on January 31, 2010 at 9:02 PM. Reason : .]

1/31/2010 9:01:53 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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Quote :
"Does this make any sense to anyone?"


no

1/31/2010 9:03:29 PM

khcadwal
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y'all gone make me lose my mind

up in here

up in here

1/31/2010 9:04:01 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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I remember listening to DMX


12 years ago

1/31/2010 9:05:34 PM

khcadwal
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one two meet me outside meet me outside meet me outside

all my ruff ryders

meet me outside meet me outside meet me outside

1/31/2010 9:12:26 PM

slingblade
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1/31/2010 9:24:37 PM

BubbleBobble
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1/31/2010 10:08:00 PM

ndmetcal
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1/31/2010 10:14:09 PM

dweedle
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khcadwal is so hot right now

1/31/2010 10:27:15 PM

Ernie
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BridgetSPK and OEPIEIEI making an appearance in a thread with the word "nigger" in the title

That's a shock

Where's HUR

[Edited on January 31, 2010 at 10:30 PM. Reason : also terpball]

1/31/2010 10:28:38 PM

slingblade
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1/31/2010 10:28:49 PM

aaronburro
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I DEMAND THAT BanjoMan BE SUSPENDED FOR USING THE N-WORD! IT'S NOT RIGHT!!!

1/31/2010 10:29:37 PM

merbig
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^ Cracka-ass cracka.

1/31/2010 10:30:49 PM

aaronburro
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what's that from? lol

1/31/2010 10:31:44 PM

Ragged
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I say that shit just clownin dog

1/31/2010 10:31:53 PM

BridgetSPK
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Ernie, I do not respond to all the threads. Seriously, I get inbox requests from people who want to argue about race with me in their retarded little threads, and I decline on a regular basis. I'm not even that well-versed or crazy good at it.

1/31/2010 10:34:17 PM

merbig
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^^^ Wait... Really?

1/31/2010 10:37:52 PM

JeffreyBSG
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"You know... Things aren't as "black and white" as you seem to think."


pretty fuckin solid, sir

1/31/2010 10:40:01 PM

McDanger
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This a ridiculous and incorrect generalization.

How could you possibly think this hahaha. Making generalizations based on one's handful of friends itt.

2/1/2010 8:40:58 AM

BettrOffDead
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How could you possibly think this hahaha.

2/1/2010 9:31:58 AM

Slave Famous
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"and no one, white NOR black, listens to DMX anymore"


you shut the fuck up

there has never been and there will never be better workout music than that by Earl Simmons

2/1/2010 9:32:55 AM

khcadwal
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you do what you gotta do then

2/1/2010 9:34:58 AM

omgyouresexy
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I would imagine that I listen to both white people rap and black people rap. I'm not like a huge aficionado on the topic, but I know what I like and don't like. People have a lot of good points on here about stuff not quite related to the OP, but to give my response, I'll have to go middle of the road.
It seems like, as with most debatable topics, people on both sides of the fence and those who just don't care. Some people say that, yes, black people can totally use it, only around black people. Some don't even care as long as you're cool with them, grew up with them, etc. and they know you don't mean it. Then there are those who loathe the word, and try their best not to use it. I have one friend who I was joking around with and called a wigger one time, and he got pretty offended about even using a play on the word. He'd be in that category. Some people recognize the harsh and oppressive origin of the word and choose not to use it.

I have to be honest though... I'm more curious about what falls into the categories of white rap and black rap. Someone sort these for me, please (I'm going to include some popular R&B stuff too): Bone Thugs, Dizzee Rascal, All rap by white guys, Erykah Badu, Jill Scott, Random Impulse, K-os, Biggie Smalls, Sway, Scarface, Dow Jones (lol @ local stuff like that)

2/1/2010 9:47:05 AM

GREEN JAY
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he said nigger!


SUSPEND

2/1/2010 9:50:25 AM

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