http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/13/tacoma.recall/index.html

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" Toyota announced a voluntary safety recall of about 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma trucks in North America, citing potential production defects in the front drive shaft of certain 2010 models."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/21/toyota-recall-2010-more-t_n_432125.html

Quote :

"A new Toyota recall was announced today, affecting some 2.3 million vehicles, just months after a separate Toyota recall that affected nearly 4 million cars."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/29/toyota-lexus-mat-recall-3_n_303584.html

Quote :

"Toyota Motor Corp. said Tuesday it will recall 3.8 million vehicles in the United States, the company's largest-ever U.S. recall, to address problems with a removable floor mat that could cause accelerators to get stuck and lead to a crash."

http://pricinginsider.carsdirect.com/2010/01/27/toyota-to-stop-production-of-8-vehicles/

Quote :

"The Toyota Total Recall. Toyota will temporarily cease production of 8 vehicles in its model lineup slicing nearly 50% of its fleet. Why? Because of defective accelerator mechanisms found on the 8 listed vehicles (not just the current generation Prius as initially reported). Wall Street didn’t like the news too much, as shares of Toyota [TM] plunged 8%."

God damn Toyota, when it rains it pours. I thought we had a fucking deal. We sell you our souls and stab our own automobile maker in the back, and you produce good cars.

Toyota, you've been PWNT, stay home.

2/13/2010 11:47:09 PM

cool story, bro

2/13/2010 11:48:11 PM

yeah that Tacoma recall is new. I guess they'd rather just issue the recall than have some "investigative journalist" give them bad press or something later

2/13/2010 11:49:03 PM

At first the recalls made me reconsider getting a Tundra

but then I thought of how much their sales are going to suffer, which will drop the price, and up the incentives...

so I may just go ahead and pull the trigger on a Tundra. I still don't know.

2/13/2010 11:51:16 PM

i bet their recall numbers are comparable to other manufactures. news is just piling on a foreign company

USA #1

2/13/2010 11:59:25 PM

Avast, my mighty Japanese messiah hath stumbled

2/14/2010 12:00:37 AM

toyota did this to themselves by ignoring warnings, but this is a good chance for ford and chevy to take #2

2/14/2010 12:07:42 AM

I haven't heard anything concerning the Lexus division... fortunately...

2/14/2010 1:24:44 AM

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

2/14/2010 1:26:01 AM

^ I actually did a search. Perhaps you should consider taking your own advice?

The only thread that is relevant to this issue was found in The Garage section, which is not a discussion or making fun of Toyota:
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=587881

Eat it noob.

2/14/2010 2:25:37 AM

you just got trolled, I think.

2/14/2010 2:55:55 AM

I think the gubmint is encouraging this media frenzy about Toyota now that they essentially own GM and Chrysler.

2/14/2010 3:09:49 AM

[Edited on February 14, 2010 at 3:10 AM. Reason : DOUBLE POAST!]

2/14/2010 3:09:49 AM

^^ I haven't really seen the government say much of anything about it. Anytime anyone dies because of a defect in a car, the media makes a big deal about it. Remember the flipping Ford Explorers with the Firestone tires? At first the media was bashing Firestone for making bad tires, and then it was found out that the Ford dealers (or Ford themselves) were setting the tire pressures too low to help improve the ride of the vehicle.

The media was on that for weeks.

2/14/2010 3:37:50 AM

back in the 80's an erroneous 60 minutes story pretty much killed Audi in the US over a sudden acceleration.

It's the reason you cant shift automatics into drive without applying the brakes first to this day.

2/14/2010 9:30:58 AM

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"but then I thought of how much their sales are going to suffer, which will drop the price, and up the incentives..."

everybody is thinking this...

2/14/2010 9:36:36 AM

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"I haven't really seen the government say much of anything about it."

You don't see the government doing a lot of things. I'm not saying it is happening, just that not seeing overt evidence doesn't preclude it from happening.

2/14/2010 9:56:17 AM

MY Ford Fuckus is laughing at all of you now.

2/14/2010 10:03:37 AM

At least they are being open about it.

Ohh, uhh, I, uhh, umm, t-t-t-think we muh muh may have a problem with some of our vehicles...

2/14/2010 10:52:02 AM

So Milton's the PR guy?

2/14/2010 10:52:59 AM

^^ No they're not. The brake problem has been around since at least 2003 and they did all sorts of fantastic lying to the NTSB to get around a recall.

2/14/2010 11:54:16 AM

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"I haven't heard anything concerning the Lexus division... fortunately..."

they are also affected. the RX 330 was the one of the first vehicles to crash and burn with people inside.

2/14/2010 12:25:48 PM

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"You don't see the government doing a lot of things. I'm not saying it is happening, just that not seeing overt evidence doesn't preclude it from happening."

So, the absence of evidence is now your evidence? Keep in mind that I didn't say that government isn't doing it. I said that I have not seen any evidence of them doing it. So, unless you can provide some concrete evidence, it's nothing more than an opinion that you and a few other people have.

Additionally, the fact that the media is covering it "kind" of hard, doesn't mean much. Unless you have forgotten about the Ford Explorer and Ford Pinto problems that marred Ford in the eye of public opinion, then the media covering Toyota should be of no surprise to you.

Oh, and the 8000 Tacoma recall was not a headline of any type. It was in a tiny little box. But it's still insult to injury.

2/14/2010 1:06:39 PM

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"So, unless you can provide some concrete evidence, it's nothing more than an opinion that you and a few other people have."

That's why I qualified it by saying, "I think. . ."

2/14/2010 8:01:19 PM

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"news is just piling on a foreign company "

Don't worry, the Japanese news is shitting all over Toyota as well. I swear this has been 80% of what they spend their time on during the morning news shows.

2/14/2010 8:09:31 PM

2/14/2010 8:13:56 PM

They're still denying that the Prius needs a recall, but that's coming too. The cruise control goes crazy and accelerates to 100mph.

2/14/2010 8:24:24 PM

^ That doesn't sound fuel efficient.

2/14/2010 8:28:18 PM

Are the Japanese corporate leaders about to commit seppuku over this great dishonor?

2/14/2010 8:32:53 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if Toyoda did considering how much he's in the doghouse right now.

2/14/2010 8:37:37 PM

Accept humiliation! Restore your honor oh great Toyota emperor!

2/14/2010 8:43:46 PM

Quote :

"That's why I qualified it by saying, "I think. . .""

I didn't quote you, now did I?

2/14/2010 8:48:39 PM

No you didn't, but I was the first to posit that conspiracy theory in this thread, and I suppose I fall into the "and a few other people," so I replied. Rolly eyes not necessary, big man.

[Edited on February 14, 2010 at 10:56 PM. Reason : ]

2/14/2010 10:54:16 PM

^ I didn't even have your ass in mind when I typed it.

2/15/2010 1:11:45 AM

So now can we FINALLY be done with all this Kaizen / Lean stuff? TPS just aint what it used to be.

2/15/2010 2:08:28 AM

Maybe someone can explain this to me.

While it's Toyota's fault for the defect, why is it that people didn't put their car into Neutral or park when they realized the gas pedal wasn't coming back up?

I heard one lady called the fucking police to tell them that her gas pedal was stuck, before crossing an intersection and crashing. Why the fuck didn't she shift her car into neutral? Can Toyota's not go into neutral or park while moving?

I mean, I drive a stick, so I can just mash the clutch and be fine (can't say the same about the engine though). Is there something I'm missing with Toyota's?

2/15/2010 3:34:20 AM

^people panic

hell you dont even have to put it in neutral if your pedal sticks, the brakes have way more power than the engine

2/15/2010 8:14:54 AM

^^most folks don't know anything about cars and didn't pay attention in driver's ed

2/15/2010 8:23:54 AM

^ Thats what I was thinking, but then I gave the benefit to the doubt to most drivers, and figured they would remember to put the car into neutral. Silly me.

2/15/2010 9:46:08 AM

Yup, for some reason they don't think to turn the car off or slip it into neutral. So they just hold the brakes until they overheat and stop working. Then they die.

2/15/2010 10:11:38 AM

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"I heard one lady called the fucking police"

Your answer.

2/15/2010 10:13:36 AM

I haven't read too much into it, but how hard did the pedals stick? I had an old Saturn with a gas pedal that would stick and all I would have to do is put my foot under/beside it and pull it back up, why couldn't they do that?

2/15/2010 11:22:34 AM

later the problem is traced to a US manufacturing plant.... joy

2/15/2010 11:46:28 AM

^^ To my understanding, it got stuck on the floor mat.

2/15/2010 3:31:53 PM

some of the crashed cars were noted to have the floor mats in the trunk

2/15/2010 3:57:06 PM

^ Like I said, it was to my understanding. It's honestly not something I've followed very closely. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual problem was a cable linkage design problem.

2/15/2010 4:00:12 PM

i wasn't trying to one up you

2/15/2010 4:03:59 PM

^ Oh.

2/15/2010 4:08:57 PM

2/15/2010 4:09:33 PM

Wait...so the problem could possibly be a FLOOR MAT? Seems like a pretty easy fix to me...

2/15/2010 4:10:04 PM