http://www.ncwildlife.org/NewsReleases/030210_New_Law_for_Boating_Safety_Goes_Into_Effect_This_Year.htm

basically we will have to have a license to operate a boat, what say you tww?

my only question is that 26 seems like kind of an arbitrary age to pick

3/8/2010 12:40:35 PM

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""§ 75A-16.2. Boating safety education required. (a) No person shall operate a vessel with a motor of 10 horsepower or greater on the public waters of this State unless the operator has met the requirements for boating safety education. (b) A person shall be considered in compliance with the requirements of boating safety education if the person does one of the following: (1) Completes and passes the boating safety course instituted by the Wildlife Resources Commission under G.S. 75A-16.1 or another boating safety course that is approved by the National Association of State Boating Law Administrators (NASBLA) and accepted by the Wildlife Resources Commission; (2) Passes a proctored equivalency examination that tests the knowledge of information included in the curriculum of an approved course; (3) Possesses a valid or expired license to operate a vessel issued to maritime personnel by the United States Coast Guard; (4) Possesses a State-approved nonrenewable temporary operator's certificate to operate a vessel for 90 days that was issued with the certificate of number for the vessel, if the boat was new or was sold with a transfer of ownership; (5) Possesses a rental or lease agreement from a vessel rental or leasing business that lists the person as the authorized operator of the vessel; (6) Properly displays Commission-issued dealer registration numbers during the demonstration of the vessel; (7) Operates the vessel under onboard direct supervision of a person who is at least 18 years of age and who meets the requirements of this section; (8) Demonstrates that he or she is not a resident, is temporarily using the waters of this State for a period not to exceed 90 days, and meets any applicable boating safety education requirements of the state or nation of residency; (9) Has assumed operation of the vessel due to the illness or physical impairment of the initial operator, and is returning the vessel to shore in order to provide assistance or care for the operator; (10) Is registered as a commercial fisherman or a person who is under the onboard direct supervision of a commercial fisherman while operating the commercial fisherman's boat; or (11) Provides proof that he or she is at least 26 years of age."

License required for boat owners, but any idiot can still go rent one.

I'm for this though. There are far too many idiots on the waterways these days who don't know the basic rules of the road. Enforcement is going to be interesting though.

3/8/2010 12:51:45 PM

3/8/2010 12:52:46 PM

I love laws that I am old enough to not have affect me

Course I was whipping john boats when I was like 12

3/8/2010 12:53:49 PM

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"License required for boat owners, but any idiot can still go rent one."

ya that sucks, i would hope that eventually you would need to provide said certification to rent a boat too

3/8/2010 12:54:17 PM

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"rules of the road"

3/8/2010 12:54:22 PM

Figure of speech.

3/8/2010 1:01:18 PM

26? Wow... I'm 23 and was planning on buying a boat this year... looks like I'll have to give it to my parents then 'rent' it permanently from them 'fo free.

26, that's just retarded. 21 tops.

3/8/2010 1:06:34 PM

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"basically we will have to have a license to operate a boat, what say you tww? my only question is that 26 seems like kind of an arbitrary age to pick"

1) I discussed this with my brother last year. I think it's a load of shit.
2) I, too, think 26 is arbitrary. The logic behind this must be to raise more revenue.

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"I'm for this though. There are far too many idiots on the waterways these days who don't know the basic rules of the road. Enforcement is going to be interesting though."

There are also many kids under the age of 26 who have more experience on the water than 26 year olds.

Enforcement will be the same as it always has. Marine patrol will pull your boat and check to make sure you have everything you need and that the person operating the boat has the permit.


Just a note: You can take the test online as many times as you want for no charge. You have to pay to get your results and permit.

3/8/2010 1:07:24 PM

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"There are also many kids under the age of 26 who have more experience on the water than 26 year olds. "

Oh, I agree. Over half the issues I see are 30 somethings who ran into some money and bought a boat for the first time. I thought this was part of some structure to phase in licensing for everyone. Maybe that has changed.

3/8/2010 1:18:56 PM

I took the course but lost my license somewhere. Oh well

3/8/2010 1:29:57 PM

not only am i for this, but i don't think there should be an age over which you do do not have to have the license

3/8/2010 1:30:02 PM

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"I took the course but lost my license somewhere. Oh well"

shit me too. Though, i have a feeling it's inside the glovebox of the boat...i just can't go look because it's wrapped up for the winter. The hell if i'm taking that class again though, maybe they'll have me on record



^agreed. I've met asshats on the waterways aging from 13 to 65 that are completely clueless.

I didn't read the entire stipulations...but are they requiring this to operate PWCs also? If so, that is news to my ears.

[Edited on March 8, 2010 at 1:33 PM. Reason : add]

3/8/2010 1:32:43 PM

I'd be interested to know how they came up with 26.


http://www.ncwildlife.org/Boating_Waterways/documents/Boating_accident08.pdf

3/8/2010 1:36:45 PM

Yeah, I honestly dont think licensing is a bad idea. Its a vehicle capable of hurting people with little effort, and its obviously people have more money than sense (at least on the lake).

Shitty thing about this is probably more stops by the dumb ass wildlife assholes. They are the worst. My family grew up on the lake, and has some awesome stories getting back at wild life officers. One including pulling the plug on the officers boat and watching it sink while he was trying to chase down someone for fishing without a license (this was literally 30 years+ ago)

[Edited on March 8, 2010 at 2:00 PM. Reason : .]

3/8/2010 1:36:58 PM

this sucks, I own a boat (90hp bass boat) and now I have to get a license when I've been boating for years? bullshit.

I already have an ASA sailing certification, you'd think that would trump a powerboat certificate

3/8/2010 1:38:27 PM

maybe in your mind or my mind. not in the powertripping wildlife officer or sheriff who sees you behind the wheel.

i have a feeling i will get pulled over the first week of lake season for no real reason other than looking like a young guy < 26. at which point i'll have the license pointed right in his face by the time he pulls up close.

[Edited on March 8, 2010 at 1:41 PM. Reason : in]

3/8/2010 1:40:47 PM

This law is GOOD. You fucks in motorized boats don't know your rights of way.

Or, you sit in the middle of a shallow fucking canal on the intercoastal waterway fishing, not realizing that most of the boats using CAN"T go around you with out going aground, nor should they.



[Edited on March 8, 2010 at 2:06 PM. Reason : ^hahah this could happen to me for several years, and I've got a captain's license...]

3/8/2010 2:03:29 PM

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"If you need a replacement Hunter or Boater Education replacement certification card for a course taken in N.C. Please send your request to replacementcard@ncwildlife.org. Individuals who completed Boater Education through one of our online partners must contact the service provider for the course for a replacement card (i.e. Boat-ed.com). Information Needed: Full Name* Date of Birth Current Mailing Address Address lived when course was take (If available) *Please Note: If your name has changed, please provide the name the class was taken under."

3/8/2010 2:12:07 PM

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"not only am i for this, but i don't think there should be an age over which you do do not have to have the license"

agree 100%

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"but are they requiring this to operate PWCs also?"

you'll need it for anything that has an engine >10hp

3/8/2010 2:18:00 PM

Is there a way to skirt this or is the law already in effect?

3/8/2010 2:22:25 PM

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"Just a note: You can take the test online as many times as you want for no charge. You have to pay to get your results and permit."

3/8/2010 2:23:49 PM

LOL this law


I always thought it was weird how my 16 yo friends would take out their dad's $40k boat with no license or anything, but whatever

it was fun while it lasted

3/8/2010 2:26:07 PM

I have mixed feelings on this. On one had I am glad because there are far too many dumb asses running around on the intercoastal waterway these days. They need to learn what bouys and markers mean, what flags mean, how to use a radio correctly, rights of passage etc. On the other hand I started taking out fishing boats by myself when I was 11 and have more experience on the waters around the Cape Fear/ Wilmington area than any ass hat tourist or rich yankee who just moved down and bought a 50' yacht. However, I'm only 23 and have to take this stupid test

3/8/2010 2:42:01 PM

i like to think that for every good boater that is inconvenienced by this law, 2 dumb boaters will learn some basic water safety rules

im not a huge boater, only pilotted a boat a few timesin my life and i was hesitant then because i didnt know what the norms and laws of waterways are, always wandered why you didnt needa license to drive a boat. but ive been out on lake norman enough to know that this is a great idea

3/8/2010 2:46:37 PM

lake norman is a fucking nightmare

3/8/2010 2:47:38 PM

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"pilotted"

3/8/2010 2:48:25 PM

i couldn't even fucking imagine going out on a nice day in lake norman, knowing some of the people i know in charlotte with a boat

3/8/2010 2:50:05 PM

I avoid it most "nice" days, as there is no wind normally during summer. However, for the july 4th regatta, jack asses cut through the course during the races. NOT COOL

3/8/2010 2:57:44 PM

^^^thats what firefox spellchecker told me so i went with it

[Edited on March 8, 2010 at 2:58 PM. Reason : .]

3/8/2010 2:57:49 PM

I don't mind having a license law for boats; we need it. but 26 is dumb and arbitrary. it should match the driver license; hell, just have a boating license be an endorsement on a driver's license

3/8/2010 4:09:34 PM

^ agreed. Get yourself a little B endorsement the same way you'd get an M

3/8/2010 4:13:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj__uyWgeWY

3/8/2010 6:31:16 PM

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"On the other hand I started taking out fishing boats by myself when I was 11 and have more experience on the waters around the Cape Fear/ Wilmington area than any ass hat tourist or rich yankee who just moved down and bought a 50' yacht. However, I'm only 23 and have to take this stupid test"

i'm in the same boat (pun intended), but i feel that it's a small price to pay for some added safety on the water.

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"Get yourself a little B endorsement the same way you'd get an M"

but then they'll charge you every time you renew your license just like with the M endorsement. fuck that.

[Edited on March 8, 2010 at 7:16 PM. Reason : adfs]

3/8/2010 7:13:57 PM

3/8/2010 7:51:33 PM

what a load of horse shit

3/8/2010 8:15:00 PM

3/8/2010 8:34:48 PM