Sierra announced a few months ago but now New Belgium is coming to Asheville for their east coast operations. Both are going to have full breweries, tasting rooms and on site pubs!Love how much of a beer state NC is becoming and this is exactly why archaic morality laws limiting abv % are fucking stupid.
4/6/2012 8:17:42 AM
as are blue book laws. Road Trip!!!
4/6/2012 8:19:34 AM
DOWN WITH BLUE LAWS, ALE, AND ABC.YAY TO GOOD BEER.
4/6/2012 8:29:17 AM
^^^I'm not trolling you, just genuinely curious. But, how does limiting abv % keep the beer industry from expanding in NC? I mean, that's two well known craft brewers coming to NC right there. Are they coming despite abv % limits? I mean, maybe I'm missing something?I mean, as long as they keep making delicious brews, I'm good. I want my beer somewhere in the 5-9% range most of the time anyway.[Edited on April 6, 2012 at 8:31 AM. Reason : ]
4/6/2012 8:30:59 AM
^the NC beer scene has taken off because the limit in NC was raised from like 5% to 15% (I don't remember exact numbers). Essentially, having abv limits discourages brewers from opening shop, because 1) it proves the state isn't friendly to their kind and 2) alcohol content in beers is extremely important to character, taste, etc. It's not that everyone wants to drink 12% beers or that's all brewers want to brew. It's just that some beers naturally higher abv, thus when the state limits you to say, 5%, then brewers don't open shop because they're limited to session beers, some stouts, and bud light competitors.[Edited on April 6, 2012 at 8:35 AM. Reason : .]
4/6/2012 8:32:15 AM
Up until, 2005 (?) they limited abv to 6%. At that time no craft brewery would ever think of coming here and something like two of the three largest craft breweries in the country would never add jobs and revenue to the NC economy.
4/6/2012 8:35:10 AM
Oh, so that law is gone now. I thought you meant it was some law still in place. Yeah, good riddance to that bs
4/6/2012 8:36:28 AM
wiki
4/6/2012 8:37:19 AM
I heard a rumor that NCSU is working on adding a brewery sciences degree.
4/6/2012 8:44:07 AM
^ Yeah, we are. I'm currently doing a side project for my grad degree in the pilot plant.Well, the degree program may come later, but we're at least trying to expand the brewing operation and maybe get some classes structured. Some of our beer has actually been served at a few, very select University sponsored events. Just weaving through all of the red tape slows things down a little.[Edited on April 6, 2012 at 8:49 AM. Reason : ]
4/6/2012 8:46:09 AM
That's pretty awesome. Are there other universities in the US with this degree?
4/6/2012 8:51:28 AM
yup, ever since pop the cap, breweries have been popping up left and right, and creating thousands of new jobs across the state.It's one of the few good decisions made by our state government over the last decade or so.
4/6/2012 8:57:59 AM
^^Oh yes. For one, UC Davis has a really legit program. I wouldn't expect us to ever get to that point but you've got to start somewhere.[Edited on April 6, 2012 at 8:58 AM. Reason : ]
4/6/2012 8:58:39 AM
A guy in my Chem E program used to run a brewery and made us all beer as his senior design project. Cool dude.
4/6/2012 9:31:07 AM
4/6/2012 9:33:02 AM
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/brewing-degree-1276/
4/6/2012 9:44:13 AM
^^ I looked at their majors listing and didn't see anything but that doesn't mean they don't have a concentration or something. http://www.appstate.edu/academics/majors.php
4/6/2012 9:46:36 AM
Ordinarily, I'd laugh at anyone for getting excited about this, but Sierra Nevada is fucking great beer, so congrats NC
4/6/2012 11:07:49 AM
IMO sierra nevada is a crap beer and i wouldn't drink it if my mouth was literally on fire.
4/6/2012 11:36:36 AM
Their pale ale is alright. Not the first thing I'd order in a bar but I wouldn't turn it down if offered.
4/6/2012 11:38:15 AM
4/6/2012 11:43:33 AM
^this.SN & NB beers aren't my favorites, but each have several that I do enjoy.
4/6/2012 11:46:18 AM
ok well i was referring to their pale ale. fuck that noise.i will withhold judgement on the others until a later date.
4/6/2012 11:52:05 AM
interested to know what ^this man likes to drink.
4/6/2012 11:53:39 AM
Beer snobs ITTAs far as IPAs go, it's like the Budweiser equivalent. But I adore all IPAs and their hoppy-bitterness
4/6/2012 11:54:18 AM
i wouldn't go that far, but Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is the second highest selling craft beer after Sam Adams Boston Lager. It's been around for 30 years and has stood the test of time. You can ask a lot of craft beer drinkers what beer turned them onto the world of craft and more than half would say SNPA
4/6/2012 12:04:33 PM
In California, it's on tap pretty much everywhere. That's all I meant
4/6/2012 12:06:04 PM
^^I don't like either of those beers[Edited on April 6, 2012 at 12:06 PM. Reason : ^^]
4/6/2012 12:06:10 PM
this is awesome!
4/6/2012 1:05:41 PM
Thanks to this thread, I am now more excited for the brewery sciences degree at NCSU than I am for SN & NB coming to NC.Highly considering re-enrolling now...
4/6/2012 1:13:50 PM
it will probably be awhile
4/6/2012 1:36:27 PM
Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is a very solid beer. Def one of my go tos when I don't want to break the bank. I also LOVE Celebration Ale and Bigfoot.
4/6/2012 3:07:14 PM
CNBC picking up the story now:
4/9/2012 12:50:25 AM
lol at that headline, that's about the most absurd thing i've ever heard. milwaukee and st. louis are far from the beer city... they do realize that sierra nevada and new belgium have their headquarters elsewhere right and that these are basically east coast expansions. it's good none-the-less, but i hate to break it to them, but NC's best breweries (top 5 imho) aren't even in Asheville. NC is a great beer state in general.yes i'm a little biased living in Denver, but Denver has opened a new brewery pretty much every other month this year and have 4-5 opening in the next couple months, we'll be close to 25 breweries within city limits of Denver and that doesn't even include the surrounding area/suburbs. Asheville being the "hottest spot" in the brewing world right now? they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. the beer scene is pretty much blowing up everywhere, Austin, TX is up there too.[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 1:08 AM. Reason : .]
4/9/2012 12:58:59 AM
Asheville has the most breweries per capita of any city in america iirc
4/9/2012 2:24:18 AM
You could have 2 breweries in a town of 10,000 people and have the most breweries per capita, more than Asheville technically. a) it doesn't imply any sort of quality, b) it doesn't necessarily mean that there is a high quantity of breweries if the town is small. c) brewery per capita is not the sole qualifying statistic for what makes a good beer culture, nor is it even that important. just look at Vermont. it's the state with the highest brewery per capita and i'd rank California, Michigan, Colorado and Oregon all above Vermont in terms of the number of quality breweries and established beer cultures in a state.Anyhow. I'm happy for Asheville and if anything it's a good sign of what's to come. I mean clearly they have something going on or else Sierra Nevada nor New Belgium would have opened their expansions there.[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM. Reason : .]
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4/9/2012 1:07:59 PM
Just pointing out the inaccuracies..
4/9/2012 1:13:17 PM
Mmmmm Sierra summer
4/9/2012 1:17:26 PM
So, I'm just wondering, why Asheville? Why choose that town of all the ones you could choose?
4/9/2012 1:46:54 PM
^and I'd add because it's a good central location on the east coast for distribution, tax incentives, affordable real estate?my favorite SN.[Edited on April 9, 2012 at 1:52 PM. Reason : .]
4/9/2012 1:48:27 PM
And Oskar Blues (of Dale's Pale Ale fame)!http://www.dailycamera.com/business/ci_20522765/longmont-based-oskar-blues-offer-limited-run-beer
5/11/2012 2:41:29 PM
subscribe to the beer thread
5/11/2012 2:44:56 PM
I check in there every now and then...think it's a little more topical here.
5/11/2012 2:47:21 PM
GTFO. This is Coors Light country.
5/11/2012 2:53:08 PM
We should post names of all the inbred ignorant republican representatives and senators that voted against the pop the cap measure.
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