Cliff's notes version:
-Lily (cat) didn't come home one day. Her daily routine was very consistent.
-se7entythree put ads out, cat was never found.
-se7entythree's neighbor got fed up with the old man on the corner cause he kept leaving dead animals outside and stinking the place up so he called the cops trying to get old man busted for illegally killing animals.
-animal control shows up, tells old man he needs a permit.
-animal control's give-a-shit level was low
-se7entythree calls district police supervisor and explains problem.
-police supervisor gets code enforcement to inspect.
-popo supervisor emails se7entythree and says:
. animal control found lots of carcasses, birds, rabbits, possum, and one cat
. old man got a pest control permit (after animal control inspection), but that doesn't cover all the species he killed
. old man shouldnt have been issued a permit in the first place cause he's had prior complaints about killing animals
-now we're waiting to see what we can do legally

The old man's put up a fence so you cant see him shooting animals thus perpetuating his creepiness.
I'd like to bust the old man in the nose with a bat.

[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 5:40 PM. Reason : that's not really short...]

4/29/2008 5:35:54 PM

a gift for doing his fucking job? isn't paying his paycheck with your taxes enough?

4/29/2008 5:36:17 PM

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"a gift for doing his fucking job? isn't paying his paycheck with your taxes enough?"

He's done more than his job.
He's picking up the slack from animal control and code enforcement.

4/29/2008 5:42:31 PM

Damn, I'm really sorry guys.

[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 5:46 PM. Reason : Maybe get that guy a gift card?]

4/29/2008 5:45:44 PM

4/29/2008 5:47:48 PM

that creepy old guy killed your cat?!

i hate creepy old guys.. especially ones that kill animals for no reason. good luck with all that..

you should make him some brownies or cookies or something.. or some homemade fudge! yum!

4/29/2008 5:50:05 PM

you should hire me...i'm good at this...returned a 9 year old kitty last week

4/29/2008 6:25:50 PM

sorry about your cat.

hope things work out for the best and that assbandit gets what he deserves.

4/29/2008 6:28:25 PM

I'm so sorry about your kitty! Personally, I would vandalize the shit outta that old farts house. I think you should get the officer a 'Thank You' card and contact his supervisor. Its one thing to thank him for doing this, its another to get his boss to recognize him for going beyond. And the officer would feel appreciated to know that you went beyond to let his boss know how pleased you are with him. My advice, don't give it to him too soon. He may feel like his job is done and start to slack off; and you don't want that!

4/29/2008 6:41:51 PM

I agree with ^

4/29/2008 7:09:48 PM

omg that's terrible I hope they throw the book at him

4/29/2008 7:13:16 PM

im sorry

4/29/2008 7:13:57 PM

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"He's picking up the slack from animal control and code enforcement."

werd. that's cool.

4/29/2008 7:21:56 PM

my other 2 cats are now indoor-only cats. one used to be indoor/outdoor (monkey) and the other (zoe) very very rarely ever went outside (hates wind, cold, etc). we built them a screened porch under the part of my deck that has a roof over it (there used to be a just a small porch w/ a roof, we expanded it to a big deck). zoe LOVES the porch and runs to go out to it as soon as i come home. i'm going to buy a cat door this week. monkey just sits on it and cries b/c he wants to go to the real outdoors. this is as close as he will get from now on.

this is the most recent response from the sgt:

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"This is just an update in reference to 133 Timberlane: I spoke with Mr. Cain today and reiterated the concerns that were presented to me. He assured me that he would be safe and has not shot anything other than squirrels. He also told me that he only shoots them with a pump-up air rifle and insists that he is safe. He also said that he likes cats and would never shoot one. He could not explain why the animal control officers found a cat and opossum carcass in his back yard. I informed him that we would be watching him closely. He said that he was not shooting much because he has not been feeling well. I hope that this helps and that it makes him think twice before he shoots again. If you have any more concerns please feel free to call or email me. Please also keep me updated if he starts up again, or if you feel he is being reckless."

thurman kills the animals then leaves them unburied with a couple of leaves on top of them in the back of his yard underneath some azalea bushes. the animal control supervisor told me that i should wait til he's not home one day and go check out around his yard to see if he's killed anything else/if there's anything interesting to find. i asked the sgt about this, he said it's legal and i can use a camera and binoculars, as long as there are no NO TRESPASSING signs and he has not told me personally to stay off his property (no for both of these).

before the new 8' wood privacy fence, he would sit at his living room window and stare at me when i worked in the yard. he also liked to stare at my neighbor's 5 yr old grand daughter who stays w/ them in the summer and make comments like "wow that's quite a little helper you got there". he also has said things like...
"the day my wife died was the happiest day of my life"
"i'd pay $10000 to take back the day my son was conceived"
and he also tried to get his son and my neighbor involved in dog fighting (b/c he's too old and feeble to run it himself - he's 86)
oh, and that statement about him liking cats is complete bullshit. he hates cats and wants everybody to know it.

he has connections in this small city, and that's how he got his permit to shoot after the fact. we are in the process of getting it revoked. regardless, the permit expires in 30 days and he will NOT be issued another.

i fucking hate this bastard. i came sooo close to getting a big bucket of brush killer and dumping it all over his precious grass in the middle of the night. i am sending him one of my Missing Cat posters i had posted over the neighborhood tomorrow...one every day, for at least 12 days (that's how many i've printed so far). i've changed the text a little (to specifically address him) and added a GIS shot of his property. he won't know where they came from, but he'll have a couple of guesses.

[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 11:30 PM. Reason : ]

4/29/2008 11:29:35 PM

One thing you can do for the run is have part of it extend out into the grass some so they have a little grassy patch to hang out in. My parents did that when they built a run for their cats and the one cat that used to bitch and moan all the time seems pretty content with his little slice of yard

4/29/2008 11:35:45 PM

yeah that'd be nice but right now it's just a square (house on 2 sides, screen on the other 2) porch that is surrounded by house or more deck. there wouldn't be a good way to run it out into the grass unfortunately.

4/29/2008 11:42:45 PM

Yeah that's how my parents' was too. What they ended up doing is they took out the screen on one of the panels of wall and built a kind of small square area the width of the panel they took out. Then they screened all of that in (even the "ceiling") so it had lots of natural light or whatever. It's just big enough for two cats to stretch out or whatever.

haha I know that's a terrible description. I wish I had a picture of it.

4/29/2008 11:46:35 PM

Caltrops.

My grandpa took it upon himself to reduce the feral dog population after his cat was mortally mauled and died in his arms. For some things, controlling the population of vermin is good, however, this man seems to be very bitter over something.

4/29/2008 11:53:19 PM

I sorry Megan

let me know if i can help

4/29/2008 11:54:31 PM

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" For some things, controlling the population of vermin is good, "

Agreed.
I wouldn't agrue at all with anyone who wants to humanely dispatch feral animals...
But this man knows who the cats belong to.
Cats with collars and tags obviously aren't feral too.
If he had a problem then he should have talked to us and all the neighbors would have kept the cats indoors.
It's not hard to figure out who they belong to when they're playing in the yard with their owners and walking into the house (he knows all this because he's always watching what we're doing like we don't notice).

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"however, this man seems to be very bitter over something."

From what our neighbor says it's his shitty childhood and previous shitty family life.
He's the kinda guy who would be a serial killer if he was able bodied...which makes you wonder a little

4/30/2008 12:52:48 AM

If it comes in his yard, he has the right to dispose of it. If he wants to be completely legal inside the city, he should just trap the animals and call animal control every day with a new animal for them to destroy. But I personally don't have a problem with him killing them.

4/30/2008 8:33:30 AM

yeah he's bitter.

he hates women, black people, kids, cats, and young[er] people. he's sick (bad bleeding stomach ulcers or something) and he's a major alcoholic. i hope he kicks the bucket soon.

his mother was killed in a car wreck when he was 10. his father stepped into the road and was hit by a truck sometime after that. i don't know much about his childhood beyond that.

i'm not sure how all of this translates to hating small animals, but torturing them is one of those traits of psychopaths/serial killers/etc so i guess it's a combination of things.

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"If it comes in his yard, he has the right to dispose of it. If he wants to be completely legal inside the city, he should just trap the animals and call animal control every day with a new animal for them to destroy. But I personally don't have a problem with him killing them."

no, he doesn't. not in rocky mount. within city limit is is illegal to hurt or kill any animal. ch. 4 sec. 4-14 (a) (4)

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" Prohibited. It shall be unlawful to: Beat, torture, injure, torment, poison or mutilate an animal causing physical pain, suffering or death; "

rocky mount is also a bird sanctuary (he's been shooting birds) (see ch.4 sec 4-3). you have to have a permit, but his only covers pigeons, not song birds or crows. he was also instructed that he cannot shoot if it becomes a nuisance to his neighbors.

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"ch.4 sec 4-3: The area embraced within the corporate limits of the city is hereby designated as a bird sanctuary. It shall be unlawful for any person to trap, hunt, shoot or attempt to shoot, kill, maim, or injure any bird therein or to destroy, rob or tamper with the eggs or nests and breeding places of any birds or wild fowl. The provisions of this section shall not protect pigeons, crows, starlings, or English sparrows or any birds classified as a public health nuisance by the North Carolina State Wildlife Resources Commission or by the general statutes of North Carolina. If any birds so classified as a public health nuisance are found to be congregating in such numbers in a particular locality so as to constitute a nuisance or menace to health or property in the opinion of the city, and no satisfactory alternative is found to abate such nuisance, such birds may be destroyed in such numbers and in such manner as is deemed advisable by city authorities under the supervision of the chief of police."

i don't care that you dont have a problem with it, but it is illegal in this city.

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"he should just trap the animals and call animal control every day with a new animal for them to destroy"

our animal control doesn't work that way. they pick them and make an effort to find the owner. there is also a rescue group in town that works very closely with the shelter and has almost eliminated the need to euthanize (except in cases of extremely aggressive dogs).

[Edited on April 30, 2008 at 9:07 AM. Reason : you are wrong]

4/30/2008 8:55:45 AM

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"If it comes in his yard, he has the right to dispose of it."

You can't destroy someone's personal property.
Just ask all the people who run dogs while hunting.

Seriously.
If you parked your car in my driveway can I set it on fire?
If your kid walked into my yard can I shoot them?

4/30/2008 1:05:05 PM

You should get an airsoft gun, lure that old bastard into your yard, and start pelting his ass when he comes in your yard. I LOVE the idea of killing his grass. Your cat was precious to you, and his grass is precious to him - take it away from him like he did you.

May the Lord have mercy on any animal that ever hurt Grits! Y'all all know about my Grits!

5/1/2008 10:51:16 AM

If he got in the yard I'd just beat the shit out of him with my fists.

5/1/2008 1:22:15 PM

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"Personally, I would vandalize the shit outta that old farts house."

Didn't you have some photos of yourself with dead groundhogs and squirrels and deer and so forth?

What's the difference?

Hypocrisy at it's finest. ITS THE REDNECK LIFESTYLE

5/1/2008 1:25:17 PM

^ apples and oranges, my moronic friend... apples and oranges

5/1/2008 1:42:07 PM

That's far from the same thing.
I also hunt. I shoot deer, squirrels, and birds.
The thing is the owners are ok with the animals being killed, the animals aren't pets, and the animals aren't killed illegally.
I don't (and assume bethaleigh doesn't) leave the carcasses in my back yard to stink up a residential area.

The issue isn't killing animals. It's destroying someone's property and breaking municipal laws.

[Edited on May 1, 2008 at 1:54 PM. Reason : and being a creepy old man]

5/1/2008 1:52:18 PM

That stinks. What neighborhood are y'all in?

5/1/2008 2:01:54 PM

Well, maybe his way of showing his pride for killing these things is leaving them in the backyard to smell the odor; such as other peoples' pride may lie in internet photos of them beside dead animals or something...

And moronic is far from a word I'd use to call somebody if I went around shooting rodents for...fun? Wow.

[Edited on May 1, 2008 at 2:51 PM. Reason : k]

5/1/2008 2:50:13 PM

^the line is drawn at legality. one of these acts is legal, one is not. end of story.

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"That stinks. What neighborhood are y'all in?"

englewood, on timberlane dr

5/1/2008 4:24:48 PM

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"for...fun"

sigh

I still think it is absolutely hilarious that all you have to say is "OMG YOU HUNT!!! YOU'RE SUCH A BAD PERSON!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU TAKE PICTURES OF IT!!!"

LOLOLOL

I can't believe that you are still arguing this completely invalid point. You know the old asshole is in the wrong here, but you just won't let it go.... I guess this is your "pride" you are speaking of.

5/1/2008 6:04:16 PM

i mean, what i said is about as stupid as a lot of other things posted in this thread

plus this is chit chat i can say what i want.

5/1/2008 6:06:03 PM

AHAHAHAHAHA

5/1/2008 6:08:17 PM

what if i had a collar on that groundhog and named him MARTIN? would you have killed it then? don't you think that would have hurt my feelings?

5/1/2008 6:12:23 PM

If you were able to catch a groundhog and not get a finger bitten off by those massive choppers, then kudos to you. I have held groundhog skulls in my hand, I've seen those teeth, and I've seen the masseters on those guys! As a matter of fact, I watched a BIG groundhog just last Friday when I was turkey hunting. He had no clue I was right there. He was pretty awesome. He just walked around and stood on his hind legs on a fallen log and stripped bark off another tree with his front paws and just stuffed his face. It was really cool. And for the record, I did not shoot that groundhog in the pics I posted. I needed a mammal for my Mammalogy project, and wanted something noone else would have. My Daddy and our friend were muzzleloading, when she popped up over the hill. Our buddy shot her for me with a 50 cal.! (Needless to say, that was quite a hole to sew up.)

I would never shoot something with a collar on. Even if a HUGE [insert game species here] walked right out in front of me and he had a radio collar on, I would not take him.

[Edited on May 1, 2008 at 6:25 PM. Reason : ]

5/1/2008 6:25:07 PM

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"what if i had a collar on that groundhog and named him MARTIN? would you have killed it then? don't you think that would have hurt my feelings?"

groundhogs are not domesticated animals. they have not been pets and companions for thousands of years.

cats and dogs (as well as several other animals) are domesticated. they are pets and have been so for thousands of years.

it is legal to shoot groundhogs.

this isn't that hard to understand, although i know you're just being difficult. you are doing a great job at making yourself look dumb though. kudos!

5/2/2008 8:32:00 AM

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"If you were able to catch a groundhog and not get a finger bitten off by those massive choppers, then kudos to you. "

5/2/2008 9:14:31 AM

lol

although prairie dog =/= groundhog

but how cute! made me smile!

(ever heard of the 'Pink Mist Society"? )

[Edited on May 2, 2008 at 5:04 PM. Reason : ]

5/2/2008 5:03:20 PM

any word on the kitty's whereabouts?

5/2/2008 8:54:41 PM