^^cows release a shitton of greenhouse gases...thats what i'd guess...or transporting and keeping the meat sanitary...sounds like common sense to me

5/11/2008 7:16:23 PM

I mean, doesn't making a bag of chips impact the environment as well?

5/11/2008 7:20:31 PM

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"Wait, what does eating meat have to do with "carbon footprint." This sounds like some environmentalist bullshit, to me."

shit if you don't know or can't guess it using your common sense, that's some bullshit!

^ yeah that's some of it... the main thing is that the amount of grains used to produce beef could feed about 5-10 times as many people as the beef could.

5/11/2008 7:20:42 PM

yeah but then they would be eating grains.


and not beef.


doesn't sound like a good trade off to me.

5/11/2008 7:33:49 PM

it is not an all or none situation.

it is possible to reduce the meat in your diet. not only would you improve your health, but would also improve the health of the planet.

5/11/2008 7:39:57 PM

^ You explain to me a lower cost solution to being a disgusting, greasy, morally bereft asshole than cramming my gullet full of ground beef on a daily basis and THEN I'll listen.

5/11/2008 7:47:07 PM

wat?

5/11/2008 7:49:36 PM

I'm saying

How else can I support my flabby, greasy frame AND shit all over the environment for such a low, low price?

Fuck the Earth, fuck everything

Hand me my fucking Baconator

5/11/2008 7:50:21 PM

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"Fuck the Earth, fuck everything"

you sound like a phun phatty.

5/11/2008 7:51:32 PM

Hey man it's my money

I earned it

I'm out there kickin' ass, takin' names. Haulin' ass, gettin' paid.

If I want to spend that hard-earned cash on a big, greasy, delicious hunk of death then that's MY business because it's MY money.

*endorses shitloads of pollution*

5/11/2008 7:53:58 PM

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"12 Your Estimated Emissions (1 person household) 27 United States Average per Person(1 person household) 5.5 World Average per Person"

5/11/2008 7:59:28 PM

19, but I'm not really trying to reduce it in any way. It's probably a little bit lower since I rarely turn the lights on in my apartment, I'm pretty minimalist in how much I use my appliances. I have considered buying low energy bulbs when i next replace my lights, but I haven't had to buy light bulbs in the last 6 months or so. Not much I can do to make my apt. more energy efficient, I keep the apt. at 78 during the summer and I've never turned on the heat in the last 10 months. All the appliances are new, but none have the energy star emblem, and since I don't own the place I have no inclination to replace them.

I only drive about 5k per year, however that's in a new luxury sports sedan that gets less than 20 mpg, however it constantly checks its own tire pressure and the air filter gets checked at regular intervals. I put monthly since I've only put about 2800 miles on it in anyway. I've taken 1 roundtrip flight this year and it was only about 1.5 hours each way.

From a dietary standpoint I eat fairly healthy, mostly chicken, a starch, and a couple of vegetables. I rarely eat red meat, more out of preference than anything else.

Add me to the crowd who really wants to see us stop burning oil or coal for electricity. There's absolutely no good reason not to build nuclear plants for our electric needs. The idiots who protest nuclear plants and have prevented new ones being built in the last 30 years are doing immeasurable harm to their own cause. I'm all for throwing money at alternative energy development. I don't like the government funding science, but since it isn't likely to stop they may as well fund the right kinds of research.

At some point I intend to build a home, it will use several environmentally friendly measures like solar panels and a geothermal heat pump. Ideally I'd like to have a wind turbine somewhere on the property so I could live off the grid.

5/11/2008 9:02:05 PM

41, flying killed the shit out of me

5/11/2008 9:09:05 PM

Mine was 40

5/11/2008 9:14:19 PM

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"Your estimated greenhouse gas emissions are 34 tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) equivalent per year, which is above the U.S. national average."

but it just increased by 14 tons or so because I just moved from a 1BR apartment to a 3BR townhouse

5/11/2008 9:15:10 PM

the site says that organic food has less carbon footprint. But I'm not convinced that organic is more carbon friendly. Organic produce has less yield per acre, so you need more land and gas guzzling equipment to harvest. Course I don't know anything about farming, that's just speculation. Maybe some of the TWW farmers can help.

Over Thanksgiving my mom was looking into an organic turkey company. They're based out of California and the turkeys are all free range and shit. A Butterball turkey comes from right here in NC. So nature.org is telling me it's better for a truck to drive all the way from California to deliver my organic turkey? wtf

5/14/2008 10:46:24 PM

32

damn commute to work

5/14/2008 10:50:51 PM

or just skip the turkey

5/14/2008 11:14:04 PM

mines big... and u kno what they say about a big carbon footprint...

DEATH AND DESTRUCTION!

5/14/2008 11:17:32 PM

57 1 person household

5/14/2008 11:51:45 PM

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"the point isn't to be the most eco-friendly person in the world. some people can't help the fact that they have to drive far to get to a job, they really like eating meat or that maybe they need to fly a few times a year to see family, their job requires it or they just have the opportunity to take a nice vacation and enjoy themselves. shit, i'd fly somewhere warm and sunny right now if i had that much money laying around, everyone deserves a good vacation every once in a while. the point is to do what you can to minimize your negative impact on the environment. if more people used public transportation or walked/biked, those systems would improve, making it easier on everyone to lessen their usage of natural resources. same with supply and demand, if more people demanded more eco-friendly products, companies would probably produce more of those and less of what is not as desired, and the price of production would drop with the increase in sales. it's very difficult for one person to start a huge revolution, but if many people do a small part, it's really not that hard."

My rebuttal can be summed up in this old Maddox classic:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill

5/15/2008 12:03:39 AM

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"38 Your Estimated Emissions (1 person household) 27 United States Average per Person(1 person household) 5.5 World Average per Person"

If anyone wants to help the environment you're welcome to come insulate my house.

5/15/2008 12:21:55 AM