I think one reason religion persists so strongly is that man is selfish and terrified of the notion that once you die, that's it, no more consciousness, you're done, you cease to think, you cease to exist.

and for what, what is the point of this life in the first place if you're just going to die anyway?

in the search for meaning and a comfort that death is not the end, people will grasp for any comforts they can find

I personally hope it's not, but I'll be damned if I, or anyone, can tell you what is really going on here. (And I mean beyond science's thorough understanding of our physical universe)

5/16/2008 12:58:39 PM

I don't believe in any sort of afterlife which gives me the opportunity and reasoning to live for now and the next 1-50 years, instead of focusing my attention on being "worthy of love" from something that isn't kind enough to make itsself readily apparent. I'm not saying i'm a badass or anything but i'm not afraid of death in that I don't think anything happens when you die. No need to stress over what happens afterwards because of all the possible options, there's no way any one relgion has it exactly right. What happens happens and you deal with it.

5/16/2008 1:26:19 PM

aaaaaaand here's smath's quarterly troll thread on religion

5/16/2008 1:27:33 PM

5/16/2008 1:29:07 PM

this is [old]

5/16/2008 1:54:36 PM

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"I often debate with evolutionists because I believe that they are narrow mindedly and dogmatically accepting evolution without questioning it. I don't really care how God did what He did. I know He did it."

lol wut?

5/20/2008 7:57:56 AM

^ ahahaha, that's one of my favorite quotes from that site.

5/20/2008 8:00:53 AM

That's the overall problem with having a rational debate about God, you cannot.

5/20/2008 8:20:49 AM

Scientists say: We have an effect and no cause. Let us search for one! Hey, we found a possible cause, let's experiment and see if we are right. We were! This caused that!

Theists say: We have an effect and no cause. It must be an unknowable, unprovable, invisible man who judges and tests us to keep faith in him in the face of all contradictory evidence.


There is a reason I am an engineer...

5/20/2008 9:01:30 AM

ahhhhhhhh, the ignorance... it burrrrrrns. (i'm seriously reading this whole page. much entertainment.)

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"There are NO exceptions to abortion whatsoever. It is God's will that the woman was impregnated, and therefore she must birth the child! I'm glad to see there were no "abortion is OK if she was raped" replies. If she was in fact raped, she must play the hand that was dealt to her, accept it as God's Will, and raise the interracial baby as her own."

5/20/2008 10:06:11 PM

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"I'm a fan of the world being balanced on a stack of turtles."

But what are the turtles standing on?

Very clever question, young man! It's turtles all the way down.

5/21/2008 10:23:54 AM

^ no, its 5 elephants and one giant turtle. to speak of multiple turtles is heresy.

5/21/2008 10:29:26 AM

^^^ lol, rape only happens between white girls and black guys i see

[Edited on May 21, 2008 at 1:50 PM. Reason : .]

5/21/2008 1:50:15 PM

so.

we're halfway through page 2 now, i'm just going to assume that by now someone figured out where the fuck all this matter in the universe came from in the first place. or what was there before the big bang or what was there before the billions of parallel universes expanding.

6/16/2008 2:52:05 AM

isn't there some verse in the bible saying that a minute in the eyes of God is like 1000 years for humans.......so when the bible says the whole 7 days thing, that could have been a retarded amount of time. one day for God would be like 480,000 years for us

6/16/2008 3:07:21 AM

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"The spelling errors. THEY BURN."

Quote :

"down with creationism!!!"

6/16/2008 6:01:36 AM

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"You do have to accept the idea of a primary source. Either matter has always existed or God has always existed. That's what it all comes down to."

Matter didn't have to "always exist" for the creation of our universe to be plausible. Any foray into deeper theoretical physics presents plausible avenues for the spontaneous creation of matter. See string theory, branes, and more specifically, M-theory.

In fact, spontaneous creation and annihilation of matter occurs all around us, all the time. Look up the physics behind Hawking radiation (emitted from black holes) for a representative example.

6/16/2008 6:48:48 AM

6/16/2008 7:39:07 AM

i don't see why it matters either way. everybody ought to just believe what they want, not give a shit what everybody else thinks, and move on to more immediate problems. Some great minds are probably wasting time thinking about this shit and writing books on it. And other people are wasting their time reading all this shit that doesn't fucking matter.

6/16/2008 7:50:14 AM

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" I'm glad to see there were no "abortion is OK if she was raped" replies. If she was in fact raped, she must play the hand that was dealt to her, accept it as God's Will, and raise the interracial baby as her own.""

hahaha, oh.holy.fuck. that is incredible

6/16/2008 8:04:01 AM

Yeah it just hurts to read this stuff anymore...


I can't believe that some people still think that god just flipped a switch and turned this big mobile on then put people, animals, plants etc. on the planet and let it go...

I think it was more of a huge box with "some assembly required" stamped on the side.

6/16/2008 8:17:22 AM

From the link on page 1 (http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx?archive=1)

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"There are a lot of things I have concluded to be wrong, without studying them in-depth. Evolution is one of them. The fact that I don't know that much about it does not bother me in the least."

wow

6/16/2008 8:36:03 AM

6/16/2008 8:44:44 AM

Our whole universe was in a hot dense state,
Then nearly fourteen billion years ago expansion started, wait...
The Earth began to cool,
The autotrophs began to drool,
Neanderthals developed tools,
We built a wall (we built the pyramids),
Math, science, history, unravelling the mysteries,
That all started with the big bang!

6/16/2008 8:48:39 AM

<3

6/16/2008 9:03:03 AM

"science without religion is lame, religion without science is false" - Albert Einstein

you have to see how they relate not how they are different to see the whole picture

6/16/2008 2:07:02 PM

I'm shouting in a windstorm here, but my final divorce from the Christian religion was the fact that its primary accomplishment in contributing to the greater question of human existence was to either

a) square the Bible with science by denying the literal meaning of the creation story.
b) square the Bible with science by coming up with ever more complex explanations of how they weren't really in conflict.
c) denying science by saying that the Bible is the Word and when asked to demonstrate what evidence they had that the Bible was infallible . . . they referred back to the Bible. *Carl Face*


not to mention the obvious conflict between the concept that God created everything and that God is love.

6/16/2008 4:00:51 PM

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"i don't see why it matters either way. everybody ought to just believe what they want, not give a shit what everybody else thinks, and move on to more immediate problems. Some great minds are probably wasting time thinking about this shit and writing books on it. And other people are wasting their time reading all this shit that doesn't fucking matter."

I would agree with you wholeheartedly until some ignoramus decides the creation story should be taught in public schools. That's when it becomes an "immediate problem."

[Edited on June 16, 2008 at 4:11 PM. Reason : asdf]

6/16/2008 4:11:23 PM