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"Boston doesn't jam. Pretty much the perfect band. They get in there, do two-and-a-half to four minutes of rock mastery, and don't overstay their welcome."

I don't think it's possible for Boston to overstay their welcome. My favorite Boston song is Foreplay/Long Time and it's like 8 minutes long.


I like the Allman Brothers, and some of my high school friends had a jam/psychedelic band that was nice. I loved listening to Led Zeppelin's live stuff where Jimmy Page would just go wild.

8/19/2009 9:21:11 PM

I am going to bump this because it is one of my favorite threads ever

that and I just want to say

HIT IT AND QUIT IT

9/16/2009 1:59:04 PM

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"I loved listening to Led Zeppelin's live stuff where Jimmy Page would just go wild."

The shows where he's drunk off his ass are better than the ones where he's coked out of his mind.

Note: The shows where he's drunk and on coke are even-keeled and kinda bland.

9/16/2009 2:04:58 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sColmhOyTdk&feature=player_embedded

*boing*

9/16/2009 2:07:22 PM

I don't think OAR falls into the "jam band" category....they're more like pop-party-frat rock IMO

And yes, there are some jam bands that are monotonous and uninteresting, but there are also some that are very talented, creative musicians. A big part of it is the on stage improvisation, not confining a song to the constraints of the studio version. I love some Moe, P Groove, and some Phish (though i'm not a die hard follower.) Bands like WSP have less appeal to me, but I can still have a good time at one of their shows for obvious reasons, despite only really liking a few of their songs.

It's groove based music, not vocal-centric...makes you want to bob your head, maybe dance around a little bit

I've never gotten into the electro jam band scene, but STS9 is a bad ass band and put on one of the better shows I've seen.

9/16/2009 2:09:24 PM

I was going to pause what I was listening to to watch that video

and then I realized that it was a live Phish video and I'm listening to motherfucking Pavement

9/16/2009 2:10:02 PM

that music reminds me of the mos eisley cantina band

9/16/2009 2:10:33 PM

i havent listened to pavement in like a decade but last time i went home i found a shit ton of old cassettes from high school. crooked rain crooked rain was one of them. may have to throw it in later

[Edited on September 16, 2009 at 2:13 PM. Reason : .]

9/16/2009 2:13:08 PM

well lucky for you they are reuniting for a show in Central Park next September

9/16/2009 2:13:59 PM

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"If a band has great songs, you'll want to hear them multiple times. ^^^ That suggests that jam bands don't have great songs. ^ If you have to take drugs to have a good time, it's a shitty show. "

/thread right there folks. ITS ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL OVER!

9/16/2009 2:15:39 PM

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"If a band has great songs, you'll want to hear them multiple times."

It's not like they re-write the song every time they play it. It's the same song, but different in that parts of it are improvised. A solo or a jam section will never be the same, but the song will for the most part be the same.

Or they'll approach it in a different way. Umphrey's McGee can play the same song 4 nights in a row and each night it would be different. 1 night would be funky, 1 night would be rocking, 1 night would be jazzy, 1 night would be dub-y. It's cool to see the band take whats technically the same song but make it different each time it's played. Plus it keeps them from getting tired of playing it. It's fun and exciting for a fan, and keeps them on their toes for whatever may happen next.

Not to mention how they'll segue in and out of songs, sandwhich songs in the middle of other songs, use interpolation, etc...

UM has a closed circuit microphone system on stage for the members to talk amongst themselves while playing. On their blog they'll release some bits of it to give fans a glimpse of how jams progress.. It's cool as fuck to hear them, in the middle of playing something, work out how they're going to play something else and pull it off flawlessly.

And if there is a particular version of a song that you love, you can always go download it for free since essentially all of them have open taping policies.

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"The other issue is that a lot of these bands play outdoor shows, where the sound sucks and you can't make a connection with the band because even the closest seats are 30 feet away."

That's not true at all. 95% of jam shows I've seen have been in intimate venues of 900 or so capacity. Neighborhood Theatre, Lincoln Theatre, Visulite Theatre, Orange Peel, Georgia Theatre (RIP), etc...

Not all jam bands are Phish, Widespread, and Grateful Dead.

I dare you to pick up Umphrey's McGee's latest album - Mantis - and tell me its not one of the better progressive rock albums in a while.

Then see one of their shows and tell me its not one of the most kickass things you've ever seen.


edit: and no, you don't have to be on drugs to enjoy it. also, i listen to a pretty wide variety of music, so i'm not just some spaced out, on-tour-with-widespread! douche. i hate widespread as a matter of fact, and am only a casual fan of phish.

[Edited on September 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM. Reason : ad]

9/16/2009 2:29:50 PM

I am not buying a progressive rock album, good or not. Jesus.

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"UM has a closed circuit microphone system on stage for the members to talk amongst themselves while playing. On their blog they'll release some bits of it to give fans a glimpse of how jams progress.. It's cool as fuck to hear them, in the middle of playing something, work out how they're going to play something else and pull it off flawlessly."

This is seriously the lamest thing I've ever heard of. Improvising musicians have used their eyes and bodies to communicate for hundreds of years with no issues.

9/16/2009 2:32:34 PM

they do that too. a lot of that. they mostly use the mics to talk to crew about sound eq, but sometimes they'll work things out on it.

the man who claims to be about all things art is pretty close minded it seems.


If you want to hear the same shit over and over, just listen to the damn album at home. jam bands give you a reason to come see their show time and time again.

you don't hear about people going on tour with kanye.

[Edited on September 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM. Reason : ad]

9/16/2009 2:35:05 PM

cemetary walk 2 is prolly one of my favorite songs of the year so far

9/16/2009 2:41:07 PM

you don't fuck with the integrity of improvisation

9/16/2009 2:41:52 PM

what the fuck does kanye have to do with anything? kanye is garbage.

i maintain that a band with good songs can play those songs and have them stand on their on merit. rearrange them now and then, sure, but there's never a need to go all noodley and stretch out.

also, i have never claimed to be about all things art, and i have never claimed to be open-minded.

9/16/2009 2:41:55 PM

kanye is awesome

your business is kanye's business. but kanye's business is none of your business, fucker.

[Edited on September 16, 2009 at 2:43 PM. Reason : .]

9/16/2009 2:42:48 PM

kanye, sir, is not garbage

9/16/2009 2:44:16 PM

see basically he asked why people like jam bands so he could lure them in here to call them stupid, he doesnt actually want to know why people like jam bands

9/16/2009 2:44:17 PM

people who like jam bands are stupid

9/16/2009 2:45:46 PM

I do not like jam bands either,

but saps is correct.

9/16/2009 2:49:03 PM

i anticipated that, but was not looking for it

i find absolutely nothing enjoyable about jam bands, and i have relatively eclectic taste in music

so i wanted to know if anyone could give me a reason that made sense to me

so far, no one has

i'm not telling anyone else to not like it, i just don't get it

9/16/2009 2:53:58 PM

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"i have relatively eclectic eccentric taste in music"

FTFY

you can't call your tastes eclectic when you hate everything that doesn't fit into the image you want to portray.

9/16/2009 2:59:13 PM

people enjoy different things, even music


bizarre idea isn't it

9/16/2009 2:59:24 PM

if "i like everything except jam bands and overly repetitive electronic shit" is an image, i guess you're right

9/16/2009 3:08:35 PM

except that's a lie.

Pretty much any thread that anyone posts about any music, there will be a post with you shitting in it. You hate anything that's played on a radio station, can be considered mainstream, or has a following numbering north of three digits.

I mean, that's your right to be that way. Clearly you've put a lot of time and energy into being an elitist, and it should please you to know that it's been noticed!

[Edited on September 16, 2009 at 3:14 PM. Reason : sdaf]

9/16/2009 3:12:55 PM

9/16/2009 3:13:32 PM

B Digtial bringing truth ITT

9/16/2009 3:15:09 PM

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"You hate anything that's played on a radio station, can be considered mainstream, or has a following numbering north of three digits."

Hmm, what's this?

message_topic.aspx?topic=576580

And then there's that whole deal with the Pixies being my favorite band ever, just to name two things.

9/16/2009 3:18:07 PM

Still doesn't change the fact this was a troll thread

Fuck it, I still bit and gave my 2 cents.....knowing good and well it's not going to change your opinion on the music. Fortunately, I don't give two shits

9/16/2009 3:22:10 PM

as a final thought for now, i'm going to point out that the mono beatles reissues sound much better than the stereo reissues, at least up through help!

9/16/2009 3:29:13 PM

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"sometimes it's nice to bob your head to some music and not think about it"

9/16/2009 3:56:06 PM

Disco Biscuits, Bassnectar, New Deal, Lotus, Keller Williams, STS9, Panic, Grateful Dead --> i like this music, because at shows music is improvised in real time. no show is ever the same, and that appeals to me. you never know what you're going to get, but you always know it will be a great time!

9/16/2009 4:50:09 PM

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"even worse to me is the electronic influenced jam bands that these people listen to (Disco Biscuits, Bassnectar, New Deal, Lotus, EOTO). just complete shit, every single one of those bands/djs"

Bassnectar is most definitely NOT a jam band

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"see basically he asked why people like jam bands so he could lure them in here to call them stupid, he doesnt actually want to know why people like jam bands"

yep

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"I like that one moe. song Plane Crash, IIRC. The studio version. lol"

that song is awesome

9/16/2009 5:07:14 PM

he's not a jam band, he's an awful dj who has no idea how to build and release tension in his sets. his show that i saw was just a constant stream of shit. he would build and build and build these mixes up, and just drop the same break beat every time. then he decided to give us some knowledge in between songs, "i really think dick cheney should be tried and hung from a tree, i really think that. free your mind!"

plus, he tours on the jam band circuit, so he is associated with them. fuck that dude. worst show i saw in 2008

9/16/2009 5:18:59 PM

TOO FUCKING HIGH

9/16/2009 5:19:44 PM

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"then he decided to give us some knowledge in between songs, "i really think dick cheney should be tried and hung from a tree, i really think that. free your mind!""

that is fucking hilarious

9/16/2009 5:21:30 PM

conspirator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xsrLM4Gjow

9/16/2009 9:27:21 PM

Conspirator FTW

9/16/2009 10:44:29 PM

i wish they'd just do a full national tour one year, instead of these little secret side shows they do

9/16/2009 10:46:16 PM

I was gonna agree that I wasn't a big fan of jam bands, but then I saw the Allman Bros. listed.

Come on, they rock. Their songs are just so good that you want them to last twenty minutes.

I mean, come on!

9/16/2009 10:57:08 PM

FUCK upon further investigation both conspirator and rjd2 played the trinumeral festival in asheville earlier this month

abb with dickey betts, jimmy herring or derek trucks ftw

abb with warren hayes is an EPIC FAIL

[Edited on September 16, 2009 at 11:03 PM. Reason : .]

9/16/2009 10:59:08 PM

^Last weekend I believe. I really wanted to go, but there was no way I could make it short of quitting both of my jobs.

A buddy of mine said he got to dance around in a giant chinese dragon during RJD2

[Edited on September 16, 2009 at 11:01 PM. Reason : asdf]

9/16/2009 11:00:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL-RgpgZphk

heres their whole show from the 2008 trinum fest

9/16/2009 11:21:09 PM

9/17/2009 2:55:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLDw_gj5e3g

9/17/2009 6:23:28 PM

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"I like bread and butter, I like toast and jam, That's what my baby feeds me, I'm her loving man. He likes bread and butter, he likes toast and jam, That's what his baby feeds him, he's her loving man. She don't cook mashed potatoes, she don't cook T-bone steaks, Don't feed me peanut butter, she knows that I can't take. He likes bread and butter, he likes toast and jam, That's what his baby feeds him, he's her loving man. Got home early one morning, much to my surprise, She was eating chicken and dumplings with some other guy. No more bread and butter, no more toast and jam, I found my baby eating with some other man."

9/17/2009 6:51:33 PM

nevermind

[Edited on September 17, 2009 at 7:05 PM. Reason : .]

9/17/2009 7:04:52 PM

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"BACKGROUND MUSIC FOR DRUG USAGE "

9/17/2009 7:15:26 PM

Why does anyone like any kind of music? Some music sounds good to certain people. Other music does not sound good to those people. Don't think so hard about it, just enjoy what you enjoy.

9/17/2009 7:22:39 PM