when my four years are up they can kiss my ass goodbye and won't ever have to worry about me again

10/13/2009 2:45:15 PM

so tuff

I hate the place that got me a job and a house and a car and a wife and shit

10/13/2009 2:46:14 PM

^ that

10/13/2009 2:47:05 PM

How long has it been now since they outlawed transfers?

[Edited on October 13, 2009 at 2:48 PM. Reason : GIT OUT]

10/13/2009 2:48:07 PM

Quote :

"How long has it been now since they outlawed transfers?"

what?

10/13/2009 2:52:11 PM

I think his point is that no one is making you stay at State. If you don't like it, get out.

10/13/2009 2:54:29 PM

Obviously all these malcontents aren't allowed to transfer to another school. I figure there must be some legal reason.

10/13/2009 2:54:45 PM

parking tickets and shutting down parties are pretty petty things to be upset about in the grand scheme of things. if these are your main reasons for distate towards the university, then i have a feeling you'd find something to be upset about even if those things never happened.

10/13/2009 2:54:48 PM

^ agreed.

getting my BSEE degree at NCSU was the best thing i've ever completed in my life, so far.

having it, and the opportunities i've had because of it, has improved my quality of life multiple times over.

the authority clampdowns were annoyances at the time, but in hindsight my real regrets are that i fucked around too much and didnt do as well as i could have, academically.




[Edited on October 13, 2009 at 2:59 PM. Reason : ]

10/13/2009 2:59:05 PM

I imagine those pissed about parking tix and parties being broken up (though I'm not exactly sure how that is a "NC State" thing and not a "city of Raleigh" thing) are either current students or very recent alums.

I'm a member of the AA and [low-level] WPC donor.

10/13/2009 3:01:52 PM

Just so that people will stop saying that the Alumni Association is 11 years old:

Quote :

"Though it was founded in 1895, the NC State Alumni Association became a dues-based membership organization in 1998 due to budget restructuring."

http://www.alumni.ncsu.edu/faq/membership.php

And as far as I know they still solicited donations and stuff before 1998...but it was in 1998 that they went to a formal schedule of fees for members.

10/13/2009 3:05:44 PM

parking tickets are a totally legitimate thing to get mad about.

you know you're parking illegally and brag about how you've got it figured out and repeatedly get away with it.

then they catch on to you, and hand you your ass every day for a few weeks because you're too stupid to realize they've got your number.

so then you complain loudly about how the university "sucks".

makes perfect sense to me




[Edited on October 13, 2009 at 3:07 PM. Reason : ]

10/13/2009 3:06:47 PM

No offense guys, but if you're like 40 years old and going to school I wouldn't expect you to care much about parties. I say no offense because I'd be in the same boat if I were to go back to school. However, if camping out and tailgating was fine for every generation before yours and then they take it away while you're on campus you have to question whether it really needed to be done or if it was just the administration being dicks.

Hey guyzzz...You know that thing that you've heard your parents and older friends reminiscing fondly about whenever they talk about their college days???? Yeah, you can't do that anymore. But your degree is still just as valuable. You were just here for a valuable degree, right???

10/13/2009 3:26:28 PM

Were you at the campout in '00?

If not, I suggest asking someone who was to understand why it was banned after that. Or at least why alcohol was banned. It looked like a fucking warzone on campus. And, yeah, I was there and drunk as well with everyone else.

And tailgating is really no different. A ton of schools don't even get close to 5 hours at the stadium lots to tailgate. I'd say, when there was no time-limit, 99.99% of people didn't get there more than 5 hours before gametime anyway.

[Edited on October 13, 2009 at 3:36 PM. Reason : ah, well no kegs at c-f kind of sucks... forgot about that.]

10/13/2009 3:33:13 PM

Did someone say sacks?

10/13/2009 3:33:22 PM

I was roommates with Lenny's son for 3 years. Sad to hear about this.

10/13/2009 3:33:26 PM

Quote :

"If not, I suggest asking someone who was to understand why it was banned after that. Or at least why alcohol was banned. It looked like a fucking warzone on campus. And, yeah, I was there and drunk as well with everyone else. And tailgating is really no different. A ton of schools don't even get close to 5 hours at the stadium lots to tailgate. I'd say, when there was no time-limit, 99.99% of people didn't get there more than 5 hours before gametime anyway. "

this

10/13/2009 3:42:28 PM

I was driving sober for the last real Brent Road shindig. It was apparent that:

-there was a line
-Brent Road had crossed it.



I'm not saying I don't miss Brent Road, or campout, or sigfest, or any of that. But I can definitely see things from the other side and understand why they got the axe.

10/13/2009 3:48:07 PM

i was at brent road in 98 99 and 00. IIRC, '00 was when the cops came out in force, responding to the destruction that peaked in '99... by 2001, brent road was over.

yeah, we all bitched about it being "unfair", but the problem was there was significant damage being done to property. the argument was that it was largely by "non students" but i don't know if that's entirely the case. you people acted like goddamned idiots, and brought the law in. this was purely City of Raleigh, NCSU was just happy to oblige.

as for Campout, that shit was fucking nuts in 2000. bonfires and destruction, fuckers passed out drunk all over the place, university property being destroyed and burned. it was out of control, once again, you (NCSU students) did it to yourselves.

because there were a bunch of stupid fucking 18-22 year olds fresh off the farm (or outta the suburbs) who couldn't hold their liquor and act like people.

i missed brent road and campout after the students actions got it shut down. but the fact is, we lost it because we couldnt handle having it.

it aint about being old or young. if you cant understand this, you're as much of a dipshit as the fuckers who were burning desks at Campout, or tearing down street signs and damaging houses at brent Road.

10/13/2009 11:47:21 PM

Quote :

"I would love to have a reason to give back to NCSU, but for now I'll have to do that by paying off my student loans."

Same

10/14/2009 7:16:44 AM

^^ The outsider thing is real--and it's a typical pattern. It's been seen with annual ECU and UNC Halloween celebrations, for example.

Chapel Hill Aims To Downsize Halloween Festivities
Oct. 13

http://orange.mync.com/site/orange/news%7CSports%7CLifestyles/story/43066/chapel-hill-aims-to-downsize-halloween-festivities

The word spreads about good parties that happen every year. And every year it gets bigger, drawing in more and more people--including outsiders.

[Edited on October 14, 2009 at 7:31 AM. Reason : But I get your point. ]

10/14/2009 7:21:53 AM

Quote :

"membership had been stagnant for years"

a university that turns on its students is a HUGE deal in the grand scheme of things.

i don't think that the head of the Alumni Association should be the one losing their job, though.

10/14/2009 8:01:07 AM

it sounds like he lost his job for the wrong reasons

firing some dude for not sweeping legitimate information under the rug and not increasing donations while the economy shat itself doesn't sound kosher

10/14/2009 8:15:11 AM

Quote :

"doesn't sound kosher"

Have you forgotten what institution you're talking about?

It doesn't exactly do kosher.

10/14/2009 9:19:16 AM

Quote :

"Hey guyzzz...You know that thing that you've heard your parents and older friends reminiscing fondly about whenever they talk about their college days???? Yeah, you can't do that anymore. But your degree is still just as valuable. You were just here for a valuable degree, right??? "

10/14/2009 9:57:05 AM

Re: Brent Road and Campout

as someone who was there at the time (and partying along with everyone else) i think it's illuminating that Campout and Brent Road both got out of control and peaked with the damage and destruction at the same time. the two unrelated events were almost simultaneously shut down or severely curtailed.

Its clear that the destructive partying was building to a crescendo in '99 and '00. And not because the students at the time were any more incorrigible or "hardcore" than other times, but more that the dynamic "mob mentality" kept feeding itself, getting bigger and bigger, more and more out of control

this mentality fostered an attitude that led students to believe that destructive partying was their inalienable right, and that they could do what they want: "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me".

I was pissed about brent road and campout like everyone else, but 10 years later with hindsight and a bit more maturity, it's clear that it was increasingly getting more and more out of control. It's very likely that, at that rate, one or more people were going to wind up getting killed and/or severely injured.

so the two separate events were, within a year of each other, locked down by different authorities. it was the only solution, because the students couldnt moderate themselves. dont blame outsiders, because Campout was the same deal and student-only.

10/14/2009 12:52:44 PM

controlling bad situations != demolishing past and future attempts at traditions, parties, etc. There is still a large anti-student force in RPD and NCSU that is unwilling to allow many student-related events.

10/14/2009 1:24:08 PM

to reference what some stated above,

The alumni association was active even around 1900. Remember the Memorial Tower? They basically paid for it (half, then WPA other half when they were broke) Remember the Alumni Memorial Building (memorial to those state college men who gave the ultimate sacrifice in WWII)? Totally funded by alumni.

Correct, the Alumni were only dues paying in the last decade. "Association" was a non-used term back in the 'state college' days since those alumni who chose to be active were a part of the association because they wanted to be. Not because they paid dues.

10/14/2009 3:03:40 PM

ttt for NCstAteFer

11/5/2009 4:15:16 PM