Do you not own a car at all, or just not drive one to work

Because people who don't own cars (outside of major metropolitan areas, of course) typically are looked down upon

10/20/2009 11:33:23 AM

That's a rather dumb position.

And yes, I own a car.

10/20/2009 11:34:21 AM

They dont' have showers at my work. Otherwise, yes, I'd be all over that shit.

10/20/2009 11:35:46 AM

The better question would be "do you own a valid driver's license?"

10/20/2009 11:36:00 AM

that's the dumbest attempt at a diss because it isn't even remotely close to reality

10/20/2009 11:36:52 AM

Just the facts, ma'am.

10/20/2009 11:38:19 AM

but I've never had my drivers license suspended in my entire life so you must have me confused with someone else sir

10/20/2009 11:38:53 AM

10/20/2009 11:41:51 AM

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"Biking to work (prices estimated): Bike - $700 Winter Jacket - $150 Winter tights - $100 Gloves - $50 Summer shirt - $50 Summer tights - $50 Helmet - $20 Lock - $20 Pump - $20 Misc. Accessories - $100 Gas - Not needed, free. Parking - Not needed, free. Insurance - Not needed, free. Total - $1260 Car: Car - Between $5000 and $20,000 depending on what you buy. Gas - $100-150 per month depending on commute. Insurance - $1000 per year or whatever your coverage is Not including parking, repairs, etc. Total - Between $7000 to $25,000 that's a continuous investment over the entire time you own the vehicle."

You dumbass...That only works if you are choosing one or the other. For the rest of us who are going to own a car regardless of whether they own a bike this breakdown is a joke. It is 100% guaranteed that I will not replace my car with a bicycle, so the bicycle is just an added expense. Thanks for showing just how gross of an expense it can be though. You did an excellent job of proving my point.

I spent $1400 last week on a new bike btw. I assure you it is nothing more than an expense and I don't think I'm saving a dime.

10/20/2009 11:42:01 AM

Bikes over 1000 bucks seem to be a waste of money to me. A functional bike that lasts for some time should not cost over 1000 bucks.

10/20/2009 11:43:43 AM

^^ Maybe on future medical expenses... But that can go both ways

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 11:44 AM. Reason : .]

10/20/2009 11:44:10 AM

All you really need is a cheap, paid off commuter with minimal insurance (like an old civic hatch) for when it rains. Then, you've eliminated the monthly expenses of both gas and a car payment. I'd rather have a nice commuter bike than a nice car.

^^ That's actually not true, and why most people waste their money on wal-mart bikes.

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM. Reason : ]

10/20/2009 11:45:47 AM

Good luck pulling ass on your bike, Andy Stitzer

10/20/2009 11:47:03 AM

Well, I guess I can see it. I just spent like 1200 for a whole new computer setup, so yeah...

10/20/2009 11:47:16 AM

The bicycle is the new high horse.

10/20/2009 11:47:24 AM

why dont you fuckin bikers learn to follow the law of the roads

when someone hits your bitch asses yall wanna rebel against vehicles and critical mass but yall cats never ever ride according to the law.

thats my beef with bikers, well that and the fact that people like yourself want to challenge those who drive because you think youre somehow better than they are.

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 11:49 AM. Reason : e]

10/20/2009 11:48:00 AM

You can say the same thing about drivers, so... whelp.

10/20/2009 11:48:36 AM

A great racing bike with all the bells and whistles will run around $10k.

But it's worth it if you're competitive.

10/20/2009 11:48:59 AM

Well, yeah, but we're talking commuter bikes here.

10/20/2009 11:50:00 AM

^^ Yeah, It amazes me that bicycles can cost more than motorcycles... :wow:

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 11:50 AM. Reason : damn you fast responders ]

10/20/2009 11:50:15 AM

i am all for pedestrian / bike paths that actually go from neighborhoods to major places of employment (RTP, Duke, UNC, NCSU, state gov. etc) but rarely are there either bike lanes, sidewalks, or paths (paved) available.

10/20/2009 11:50:26 AM

well God, not so much.

obviously one side is not only more vulnerable than the other, but also emphatically more fanatical

i applaud bikers that ride like they are supposed to, that dont ride in between cars and cut at stoplights and run stoplights and shit just because they are on bikes.

id love to bike if it were feasible, but yalls mentality is all fucked up

^RTP is horrible for bikers, you really have to go out of your way to legally ride since its surrounded by 40 and most of the roads have at best an intermittent bike lane

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 11:52 AM. Reason : f]

10/20/2009 11:51:02 AM

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"Yeah, It amazes me that bicycles can cost more than motorcycles"

Yeah well those are the ones that are literally used on Tour de France races, so you're talking about a completely carbon bike with top of the line everything that weighs like 14 lbs (which is ridiculously light).

Example: http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/road/madone/6_series/meet_madone/

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 11:53 AM. Reason : ]

10/20/2009 11:52:31 AM

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"^RTP is horrible for bikers, you really have to go out of your way to legally ride since its surrounded by 40 and most of the roads have at best an intermittent bike lane"

Yeah so don't hit me b/c that's where I'm biking to.

10/20/2009 11:53:05 AM

Right now is a good temperature outside but a few months ago when it was 500 degrees outside that shit would not be fun. And in a few months when it is freezing, that would also not be fun.

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 11:53 AM. Reason : ]

10/20/2009 11:53:19 AM

I wish I could bike to work. Unfortunately, I'd have to bike through three different ghetto areas of Orlando to get to work.

10/20/2009 11:53:21 AM

well dont weave in between vehicles and obey the traffic lights


and use proper turn signalling

10/20/2009 11:57:38 AM

i wish lucy would bike through those ghetto orlando areas like the big meanie she is.

10/20/2009 11:57:38 AM

Biking down NC 54 from Fayetteville St. in Durham all the way to Blue Ridge would likely be a good way to get killed.

Then again I tended to drive when I lived ~2 miles from work, because I am a lazy bastard who can't be trusted to get out of bed one minute earlier than is necessary. At least I walked when I lived ~1 mile from work.

10/20/2009 11:59:41 AM

I'd have to go up a mountain to get home.

And not like metaphorically, it's not like a steep hill that would be annoying to ride up, I live in Alleghany and work in Wilkes, so I have to go up a literal mountain.

Biking to work would be fun I guess if I got a ride back, but it would take 2 hours.

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 12:01 PM. Reason : ]

10/20/2009 12:01:02 PM

i have to go to two or three places a day and that make biking impractical, even though i live only 4 miles from work my gym and my other job are 15 miles away and im gettin home at 10

so biking isnt an option, even busing is inconvenient and neither can i carpool or rideshare with coworkers that live in my complex. so we dont all ride cars just because we are lazy

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 12:04 PM. Reason : f]

10/20/2009 12:03:42 PM

Besides, BigHit and I couldn't ride after dark anyway, lest we wear one of those faggy vests

10/20/2009 12:07:42 PM

i think you have to have lights actually... (everyone, not just you two)

10/20/2009 12:12:15 PM

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"i wish lucy would bike through those ghetto orlando areas like the big meanie she is."

According to neighborhoodscout.com, Orlando has a crime index of 1, meaning it's safer than 1% of all American cities. I'm not taking any chances. The Haitian gangs don't fuck around.

10/20/2009 12:12:46 PM

I drive my car to school because its convenient and I'm not overweight. I couldn't ride a bike to work because I wouldn't want to be sweaty when I got there. No one likes a smelly server.

10/20/2009 12:14:15 PM

lucy i watched the bad news bears (original) last night. you remind me of the girl. man, that movie is awesome.

10/20/2009 12:16:03 PM

I guess God needs to sell any vehicles he may have.

As for me, I'm going to keep driving because it's not exactly close by.

10/20/2009 12:18:56 PM

^^ Tatum O'Neal? I get that sometimes. When I see her now, though, I wonder if she had a nose job or if the cocaine deteriorated her nose.

10/20/2009 12:20:40 PM

Honest question: How much has your spending on food increased after starting to ride to work?

And don't tell me "none".

10/20/2009 12:28:43 PM

well you gotta keep up with the caloric demand, im hoping youre not seeing increased spending on food as a problem

10/20/2009 12:29:50 PM

On the premise that time is money and biking takes 20 minutes longer each way than driving, at an entry-level engineer's $30/hr. you get a total cost of:

40 minutes a day * 1 hour / 60 minutes * $30 / 1 hour * 5 workdays per week = $100

This does not include any extra usage of facilities such as showering or laundry. I spend far less than $20 a day on gasoline, even when gas was unbelievably expensive and I drove 45 miles each way. Bikes are a cost and only benefits are health (if you don't get hit) and enjoyability as a hobby.

Get off your high horse.

10/20/2009 12:32:31 PM

to be fair you must include the fact that they offer minimal pollution

unless they ride on soil and compact and degrade it

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 12:34 PM. Reason : f]

10/20/2009 12:33:33 PM

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"I'd rather have a nice commuter bike than a nice car."

lol!

10/20/2009 12:34:38 PM

says the hillsborough street fiddler

says the DUI convict

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM. Reason : e]

10/20/2009 12:38:40 PM

i live a whopping 2 miles from work

it rocks

10/20/2009 12:47:46 PM

Quote :

"Honest question: How much has your spending on food increased after starting to ride to work? And don't tell me "none"."

Not that much at all. I eat maybe one extra "meal" a day, which is just a bagel or something.

Quote :

"On the premise that time is money and biking takes 20 minutes longer each way than driving, at an entry-level engineer's $30/hr. you get a total cost of: 40 minutes a day * 1 hour / 60 minutes * $30 / 1 hour * 5 workdays per week = $100 This does not include any extra usage of facilities such as showering or laundry. I spend far less than $20 a day on gasoline, even when gas was unbelievably expensive and I drove 45 miles each way. Bikes are a cost and only benefits are health (if you don't get hit) and enjoyability as a hobby. Get off your high horse."

I don't get what you're saying. Are you saying you'll lose salary by biking to work? Just leave earlier and don't be lazy.

It's MUCH MUCH less expensive to bike. A bike itself is about a tenth of the price of a car, even when you look at the most expensive commuters, and there's no insurance or gas costs.

10/20/2009 12:49:50 PM

When I'm driving, I hate pedestrians

When I'm a pedestrian, I hate drivers

But no matter what I'm doing, I hate bikers

10/20/2009 1:06:51 PM

I pedal to work about half the time.

10/20/2009 1:47:20 PM

[n]God[/n]- How many miles is it?

Im thinking about biking to school, it's about 15 miles...but Im not sure how long thatll take.


Also, the cold weather isn't very appealing ...but I may try this out in the spring

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 1:58 PM. Reason : vdsfds]

10/20/2009 1:57:54 PM

This is my daily route: http://bit.ly/1Qnczq

The cold weather isn't that bad. Just bundle up. Besides... it will be 65 degrees this afternoon. Perfect weather.

10/20/2009 2:12:56 PM