2 pages of PISS


So McDanger, tell me about your love for the word peckerwood. It sems to suggest a wild streak of homosexuality within you.

10/22/2009 9:25:36 AM

hahaha... wild streak.

10/22/2009 9:37:05 AM

peckerwood is a word used to describe whites, i think it's a purely southern racial slur (used by blacks obviously)

it's a way of grabbing the sector of southern society that makes my ass itch the most and ridicule it, all with one simple little word

10/22/2009 9:38:26 AM

oooh OK. i thought it just meant you were having penis fantasies again.

carry on!

10/22/2009 9:39:55 AM

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"che was fucking awesome "

i too enjoy murdering racists

10/22/2009 9:39:56 AM

again?

10/22/2009 9:40:29 AM

che stood up for his people against aggressive corporate imperialism

OH MY GAWRSH HE DIDN'T ROLL OVER AND LET US COMPANIES FUCK COUNTRIES IN THE ASS

10/22/2009 9:40:57 AM

Yeah, I'm not surprised that you would rationalize hundreds of murders as justified for "the cause."

As long as he's on your side of the political spectrum, anything goes, huh?

10/22/2009 9:47:55 AM

oh noes he killed a few hundred people a bloo bloo bloo

*inaction would have resulted in the suffering of countless thousands*

BUT THAT'S OKAY, BECAUSE YOU SEE,

10/22/2009 9:49:05 AM

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?

[Edited on October 22, 2009 at 9:51 AM. Reason : or the one]

10/22/2009 9:51:20 AM

when the few are a bunch of assholes fleecing the living fuck out of the many then yes, that's correct.

think about it, this guy basically took on the intelligence agency of the most powerful country on the planet. he had balls bigger than your brains, although i guess that's not much of an accomplishment

10/22/2009 9:53:13 AM

so you think the resulting communist regime in Cuba has somehow prevented deaths?

it must be their high standard of living the communists have guaranteed them then?
or the huge variety of cheap bountiful food from not only all over the island but from around the world?
or the advanced medical system and technology they have developed?
or the complete freedom to express themselves pretty much as they see fit?

it must be those things that prevented deaths!

10/22/2009 9:53:48 AM

boy it couldn't possibly be the US's ridiculous embargo

10/22/2009 9:54:44 AM

well, we are morally superior, right?

10/22/2009 9:56:26 AM

lmao hold on let's slow down i want the neoconservatives in this thread to actually justify the CIA's interventionism in south/central america real quick

[Edited on October 22, 2009 at 9:57 AM. Reason : .]

10/22/2009 9:57:28 AM

ok, i'm patient. if it weren't 9am, i'd pop some popcorn

10/22/2009 9:58:54 AM

so there aren't any other countries in the world other than the US?

10/22/2009 10:14:42 AM

*intermission as the pro-imperialist shit heels run off to wikipedia and google*

i'm gonna take a walk, have something good prepared by the time i come back

10/22/2009 10:14:43 AM

It's admirable that you are giving them the benefit of the doubt Mike, but let's be realistic here, they won't be prepared with anything of substance. Just some "copy and paste" biased justifications for their world view, which are riddled with inaccuracies, that they fail to perceive because of an emotional adherence to an irrational premise. Communism is not the only option, this is a false dichotomy propelled by the right. Achieving basic human rights, and other idealistic pursuits, is not inherently evil or doomed for failure, mainly because these ideals are not mutually exclusive to communism. Your countrymen, and perhaps the world, deserve perseverance and resistance to this lack of vision and faith. This is a huge logical fallacy, based on assumptions and misconceptions which lead to inaccurate and close-minded conclusions. We can feed the poor, care for our sick, and be kind to one another without enslaving our people, restricting freedom, and destroying technological, medical, and moral superiority. To think that we cannot based on historical blunders of other countries with different cultures throughout the world, is simply naive and short-sighted. Free your mind. m2c

10/22/2009 10:34:05 AM

chitchat response:

yeah, you're gonna take a walk... to you gay lover down the street!




[Edited on October 22, 2009 at 10:38 AM. Reason : mostly I grossly detest the idolization of various leaders from around the world (not just commies)]

10/22/2009 10:37:46 AM

There wouldn't be anything wrong with him having a gay lover, just FYI. Not much of a witty put-down.

10/22/2009 10:44:42 AM

Gay lovers are all the rage these days.

10/22/2009 10:47:34 AM

sorry my level of overall effort before 12pm is typically pretty low

10/22/2009 10:51:52 AM

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"Gay lovers are all the rage these days."

Amen. If you swing both ways, then you automatically double your dating pool.

10/22/2009 10:54:58 AM

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"boy it couldn't possibly be the US's ridiculous embargo"

i genuinely have issues with the nature in which the populace at large views the conditions in cuba. "they are communists, so thats why things are horrible there and this categorically proves communism is bad". Its disgusting that so many people, who by all other measures are reasonably intelligent can hold such a narrow historical depth and put so little effort into critical thinking in regards to the context of events and outcomes.

our strangling embargo is far more responsible for the devastation in cuba than the installment of communism alone.

10/22/2009 11:47:53 AM

Again, case in point, intelligence is not a determining factor in regards to how smart you are.

10/22/2009 11:51:09 AM

i never liked che guevarra because of the retards wearing shirts with his picture on it. typically, it was just hippie fucks or idiots trying to be edgy.

10/22/2009 11:51:39 AM

but che unequivocally owns soooo

10/22/2009 12:11:15 PM

how big of a fucking baby do you have to be to think otherwise

wahhhhhhh che didn't like it when the CIA started overthrowing democratically elected governments in south america because they didn't respect the RIGHT of American companies to fleece and fuck the poors

10/22/2009 12:15:55 PM

Guevara's methods left much to be desired and ultimately only impacted one country with any significance....

but oh yes, do go on about how he 'did it for the people'

there isn't a communist system anywhere were it didn't just replace the existing government with what amounts to a de facto oligarchy/monarchy, guess which side of the fence your beloved "Che" would fall on?

see: Il regime, Castro regime, Politburo(s)

i do agree that communism =! evil, however it's a system where historically evil has pretty much had free, uninterrupted reign to pretty much do whatever it wishes.

the vast vast majority of communists are either idealists (blind) or extreme opportunists (wish to suckle at the teet of power)

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"our strangling embargo is far more responsible for the devastation in cuba than the installment of communism alone."

of course, to think or say otherwise is stupid. but also to expect the US to react differently to you is also stupid. they (castro regime) knew exactly what would happen if they went full blown commie, and if they didn't they are far dumber and far more lucky than any other small group of people ever have been in the history of the world thus far. i don't lay all the blame for cuba's woes at their feet but i do place the majority of it there.

communism is one of those 'great in theory' things that can be argued for endlessly, but in reality, where things actually matter, it's no better than a common dictatorship and has pretty much never been proven otherwise. (socialism by degree is a different matter of course)

10/22/2009 3:24:18 PM

I started to write up a long post but fuck that

I'm not going to refute your middle school observations, this is a thread about pissing

If you think communism is inherently flawed you're a fucking moron
If you think capitalism doesn't suffer from literally everything people claim is an "inherent" flaw of communism, you'se a fucking dummy

welp, peace *skates away*

edit: I support Che because he opposed American imperialism. He had massive balls and eventually laid down his life to thwart American interventionism. For that, he fucking owns.

[Edited on October 22, 2009 at 6:38 PM. Reason : .]

10/22/2009 6:37:34 PM

wasn't he killed in the backwoods of Bolivia or something?

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"If you think communism is inherently flawed you're a fucking moron If you think capitalism doesn't suffer from literally everything people claim is an "inherent" flaw of communism, you'se a fucking dummy"

in every communist system, on earth in reality, one small group of people have come to power and have never changed, they are accountable to no one. they maintain their power through their control of the military alone and not through the will of the people.

why are you comparing a economic system to a political system?

on paper communism is nice, neat and functions much more equitable in general. in practice it fucking sucks, i'll take a republic or a democracy over a communist system in every applicable situation.

if you can't see that communism doesn't work well and does not accomplish its "goals" then you are blind naive fool.

and about capitalism (which if i recall i wasn't advocating which means you never really read anything i wrote) yes, it is easily capable of being exploited just as communism is politically.

as far as your inclusion of capitalism goes, i would say a completely unregulated capitalist society would end up much like a communist state, with a very small group of people in complete or nearly complete control of everything. so in that vein, you supporting communism (if that's where you're headed) is the same as someone blindly supporting 100% capitalism.

which is why i don't know why you brought that up. as you're the only one to mention it itt.

but good job at falling back to name calling

10/22/2009 6:53:02 PM

Whats the difference in something (like communism) being inherently flawed, versus being flawed in the sense that its never worked like it was supposed to?

[Edited on October 22, 2009 at 6:57 PM. Reason : *drains the main vein ITT*]

10/22/2009 6:55:09 PM

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"wasn't he killed in the backwoods of Bolivia or something?"

Guatemala I thought but maybe you're right

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"Whats the difference in something (like communism) being inherently flawed, versus being flawed in the sense that its never worked like it was supposed to?"

Something may be a good idea in the sense of it being more ethical/fair/efficient/whatever and never work out because a superpower is spending literally all of its money throwing wrenches

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"why are you comparing a economic system to a political system?"

Because I have listened to people conflating socialism and communism so much that I have literally become retarded. You are right though.

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"as far as your inclusion of capitalism goes, i would say a completely unregulated capitalist society would end up much like a communist state, with a very small group of people in complete or nearly complete control of everything. so in that vein, you supporting communism (if that's where you're headed) is the same as someone blindly supporting 100% capitalism."

I will real post for a second and admit to being a democratic socialist. I'd be up against the wall if a particularly crazy mother fucker from my side of the spectrum took power.

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"which is why i don't know why you brought that up. as you're the only one to mention it itt. but good job at falling back to name calling"

It's a shortcut

10/22/2009 6:59:37 PM

ok but (re: communism), when does ones perspective go from "ok communism sounds great in principle, if it can be properly implemented" to "based on human nature, communism will probably never be able to be successfully implemented in its fairest sense, therefore its not an optimal setup"?

or is your main argument not necessarily that communism is the best thing ever, but moreso saying neither is capitalism?

cause if thats the case, the problem isnt the system, its the people and the implementation

[Edited on October 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM. Reason : .]

10/22/2009 7:02:25 PM

you could probably implement any system well if you had full control over each agent in the system, i'll agree to that

i think whatever system we pick should have mechanisms in place to promote more economic equality though (especially so long as the lower sectors of society are extremely bad-off)

10/22/2009 7:12:41 PM

for god's sake just admit the previous efforts at "communism" have turned in to evil regimes

whether it is inherently flawed is a different argument but at least we can all find some common ground here

10/22/2009 7:19:14 PM

I think the only common ground I expect in this thread is that all the posters urinate multiple times per day

10/22/2009 7:22:41 PM

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"the problem isnt the system, its the people and the implementation"

The problems are always the systems, the people, and the implementations. Human systems are inherently flawed. The crucial question is, which combination of all three result in the most ideal situation for all included? I believe that our current system is the best we have at the moment, but that we could progress to fix our system and provide more for our sick, poor, elderly, and uninsured.

[Edited on October 22, 2009 at 8:04 PM. Reason : -]

10/22/2009 7:54:58 PM

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"for god's sake just admit the previous efforts at "communism" have turned in to evil regimes whether it is inherently flawed is a different argument but at least we can all find some common ground here"

certainly not evil

some bad shit happened, that's to be sure. i would have a hard time calling something "evil" though (and a lot of it is certainly overexaggerated in the west as a result of propaganda)

10/22/2009 7:56:48 PM

Stalin's purges could probably be considered evil. But then again, the man was a loony.

10/22/2009 7:59:17 PM

i would say cuba is the only one not to have the massive killing off of rivals (they let them leave) (they did kill quite a few still just not the millions that lennin, trotsky, stalin, mao, and the il's have.

there was a pretty brutal backlash by communist forces against their opponents in vietnam after that whole thing collapsed, but i dunno who was directing that (after the 'war')

so it's probably safe to go with most of communist regimes are evil.

10/23/2009 10:34:56 AM

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"in every communist system, on earth in reality, one small group of people have come to power and have never changed, they are accountable to no one. they maintain their power through their control of the military alone and not through the will of the people. "

in reality we haven't had a true communist regime at all, but rather a list of socialist fascist oligarchies that have gone under the name communist. hell, i wouldn't even really consider china communist at this point in the game.

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"on paper communism is nice, neat and functions much more equitable in general. in practice it fucking sucks, i'll take a republic or a democracy over a communist system in every applicable situation."

there are those who consider communism the ultimate democracy since business, land, and government are under the control of the people.

10/23/2009 11:07:06 AM

if it ever worked that way

"the people" = <100 old men in charge

10/23/2009 11:07:56 AM

Hmm deposing of your political opposition is EVIL

But oppressing the living shit out of people, fleecing them, and ensuring they live in poverty (thus dying early) is legal and how dat game goes

10/24/2009 12:23:49 PM

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"in reality we haven't had a true communist regime at all, but rather a list of socialist fascist oligarchies that have gone under the name communist. hell, i wouldn't even really consider china communist at this point in the game. "

true, but isn't that what is always going to happen? I mean they did try stuff like collective agriculture and that obviously didn't work

10/24/2009 3:16:21 PM

there are a lot of reasons why an agricultural plan might not work, and most of them are things outside of human control. a political system can't change drought or a swarm of locusts

10/24/2009 3:19:12 PM

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"Hmm deposing of your political opposition is EVIL But oppressing the living shit out of people, fleecing them, and ensuring they live in poverty (thus dying early) is legal and how dat game goes"

legal =! evil (and VV)

in these cases deposing of your political opposition = exterminating 10's of thousands up to many millions.

there is a very very big difference between ordering someone to their death and causing a poor environment that might lead to a early death.

one will get you the chair the other nothing.

10/24/2009 3:55:19 PM

so McD, tell me how you feel about Shaniya Davis and the punishment her killer (and her pimp Mother) should receive?

11/17/2009 12:59:01 PM

aaaand here we go!

11/17/2009 1:02:34 PM