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11/30/2009 1:09:23 PM

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"This is mine: "

[Edited on November 30, 2009 at 1:12 PM. Reason : I haz it too!]

11/30/2009 1:12:40 PM

[Edited on November 30, 2009 at 1:29 PM. Reason : .]

11/30/2009 1:29:41 PM

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"regardless, won't this be incredibly hard to prove?"

Proof? You think traffic citations require proof?

If an officer says you are speeding, that's all the "evidence" the court will require. If a cop says you were texting, that's also all the "evidence" the court will require.

To adopt a saying from a crazy woman - traffic courts need evidence about as much as a fish needs a bicycle.

11/30/2009 2:13:49 PM

just how are they planning on enforcing this effectively

11/30/2009 2:17:57 PM

apparently you guys don't understand police discretion at all...once you get a ticket for this you're gonna be at the mercy of which ever judge you appear before and how they're feeling that day

i have a feeling they're not going to be lenient at all, at least i hope not

11/30/2009 3:18:02 PM

Then you just pull your phone records and tell 'em to kiss your ass if you weren't texting or emailing.

11/30/2009 3:22:31 PM

^ They'll just say that you were in the process of typing the text and never hit "send".

11/30/2009 3:29:01 PM

11/30/2009 3:33:22 PM

Just heard it on the news about the License Plate frames. Cops are going to only give warnings for a year, and fines won't start until Dec. 2010

11/30/2009 5:09:21 PM

No way the license plate frame thing doesn't get struck down by the courts at some point


it's basically a revenue-generating law passed - they'll ticket the fuck out of people at $100 a pop because they know another fucking tax increase would have people rioting in the streets and every single sitting state legislator would lose their re-election bids if they voted for it in this economy.


plus it'll be free money from all the out-of-state drivers who have plate frames, like an automatic gimmie - SHP sees an out of state tag with a frame, pulls em over





actually the more I think about this the angrier I get, and I'm far from tin foil hattery. this bullshit gives police a reason to pull someone over who under other circumstances wouldn't be questioned. It's an unbelievable invasion of privacy and infringement upon the rights of citizens.

[Edited on November 30, 2009 at 7:08 PM. Reason : .]

11/30/2009 7:04:14 PM

I just texted *HP with "Txting while driving; will stop after midnight." I don't think they can receive texts though.

11/30/2009 7:32:09 PM

bump. No texting while driving kids

12/1/2009 6:56:27 AM

nvm, saw the explanation

[Edited on December 1, 2009 at 7:05 AM. Reason : ]

12/1/2009 7:04:32 AM

welp...had 3 unmarked cars behind me and didn't get pulled for the tag frame. They must've been in a good mood from their coffee and donuts this morning.

12/1/2009 8:27:16 AM

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"actually the more I think about this the angrier I get, and I'm far from tin foil hattery. this bullshit gives police a reason to pull someone over who under other circumstances wouldn't be questioned. It's an unbelievable invasion of privacy and infringement upon the rights of citizens."

ding ding ding

12/1/2009 8:31:35 AM

I concur

12/1/2009 9:37:51 AM

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"this bullshit gives police a reason to pull someone over who under other circumstances wouldn't be questioned."

If cops want to pull you over, they will pull you over. End of story. I've had cops pull me for saying I touched the yellow line when I know for certain I didn't. I've had cops pull me for increasing my speed from 35 to 38 10 feet in front of a 45 mph sign. A buddy of mine got pulled because the cop said his license place light was flickering on and off even though we spent then next 20 minutes trying to replicate the flicker and couldn't. It's not like this is opening some huge door for cops to jump down your ass for no reason. They already have 100s of those in place already.

12/1/2009 9:49:43 AM

I for one have seen half the cars on the road with tag covers/boarders. This will be interesting to see. I'm not going to say this is wrong or eight cause I don't give a shit.

12/1/2009 10:04:01 AM

the officer could ask to see your phone and look at the timestamps of the last read or sent messages

also, looking down at all is now reasonable suspicion i would guess

12/1/2009 10:09:35 AM

20 bucks paypal'd to the first person who gets a ticket for this, scans it and posts it on here

12/1/2009 10:14:13 AM

They talked to a Highway Patrol Officer on our local news this morning.

According to the way the law is written, you are allowed to text as long as the vehicle is not in motion. (i.e. stoplight, stop sign, traffic jam, etc etc). Also, they are only giving warning tickets for the first few months to "educate" the public on the law, so it might be a while before ^ happens. Similarly to the way they issued warning tickets for a while after the "change lanes when a cop is on the shoulder" law went into effect.

[Edited on December 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM. Reason : a]

12/1/2009 10:21:18 AM

How strict are the no cell phone laws in NY and other states

I go up there often, but never drive, so I'm curious if there's some leeway, or if you're fucked if they even see you with your phone to your ear

12/1/2009 10:23:16 AM

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"the officer could ask to see your phone and look at the timestamps of the last read or sent messages"

i guess he could ask, but you wouldn't be required to show him unless he had a warrant

12/1/2009 10:32:56 AM

You'd like to think so

The cops are not your friends. Don't tell them anything

12/1/2009 10:34:39 AM

^^yeh.

but you know some idiot would show it and get busted.

HELLO POLICE OFFICER, WHY YES I WAS SHOOTING OFF FIREWORKS AND HERE IS THE BOX OF WHAT'S LEFT!

[Edited on December 1, 2009 at 10:35 AM. Reason : ^]

12/1/2009 10:35:20 AM

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"You'd like to think so"

not sure what you're trying to say. if he forced you to show him or forcefully took your phone and looked at it, then that evidence was obtained illegally and wouldn't matter in court anyway.

[Edited on December 1, 2009 at 10:37 AM. Reason : but by this time you've spent more on a lawyer than the fine would've been anyway]

12/1/2009 10:37:07 AM

Don't preach me on any matters legal

Other than jbrick and maybe jackleg, I'm more versed in such affairs than anyone here

What I was saying is that most people don't know this, and thus would sheepishly give up their phone on request

People think cops have a lot more power than they actually have

12/1/2009 10:40:54 AM

i just went on a 30 minute round trip and texted and emailed the whole time.

TAKE THAT GOVERNMENTAL OPPRESSION!

12/1/2009 10:41:27 AM

jeepin4x4: hey drod stuck in traffic lol wasup
drod900: chillin, bout 2 go see twilight with biofreak
jeepin4x4: lucky ! hey I got tix 2 the tim mcgraw show over break, u guyz wanna go?

12/1/2009 10:44:33 AM

I heard a story on the radio this morning about some chick who let her BF borrow her phone. He got pulled for texting while driving, the cop asked to see the phone, and saw naked pictures of the chick in the Sent Messages folder. The chick is planning to sue the police deparment.

[Edited on December 1, 2009 at 10:45 AM. Reason : a]

12/1/2009 10:45:19 AM

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"What I was saying is that most people don't know this, and thus would sheepishly give up their phone on request"

oic

12/1/2009 10:45:51 AM