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"^dislocates are great for mobility, not really sure how they help with strengthening the shoulders though"


They're used for a lot of rehabs. Maybe not a strength gaining tool, but if she has tendinitis it would probably good for it.

[Edited on January 18, 2010 at 12:16 PM. Reason : l]

1/18/2010 12:12:12 PM

PackMan92
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reposted for page 2


shoulder rehab stuff

http://www.dieselcrew.com/how-to-shoulder-rehab/

1/18/2010 12:13:00 PM

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what the hell, dislocate my shoulder? That's actually what I'm trying not to do cause my shoulders can pop out of place to easily.

1/18/2010 12:13:55 PM

Skack
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That's just the name of the stretch. You don't actually dislocate your shoulder.

1/18/2010 12:16:44 PM

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Crossfit is lame there I said it

1/18/2010 12:17:15 PM

sawahash
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^^lol okay I was about to say!

1/18/2010 12:17:34 PM

arog20012001
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yeah don't dislocate your shoulder on purpose. not a good idea.

1/18/2010 12:18:17 PM

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I bet half the Crossfit guys couldn't do 20 full extension pull-ups to save their life.

1/18/2010 12:19:14 PM

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Here's a suggestion:


When you shop, only shop the perimeter of the grocery store. That means the produce section, meats, eggs, juices, cheese, and seafood. The only aisles you should ever go down are the canned foods aisle (for canned veggies only), the drink aisle (water, juice, diet coke, gatorade, whatever), and the hygiene aisle for obvious reasons.

Also, don't expect shit to change overnight. The problem I've found with most people that lose weight is that they make drastic changes and then forever long for those "old days," because they abruptly stopped their old lifestyle. To some extent, that's unwise. Baby steps. Trim the diet here and there. Pick up exercises here and there.

For instance, every monday night I watch football, or wrestling, and do 10 pushups every commercial break. It takes 15 seconds to pump them out, but by the end of the night, i've done 100-120 pushups... in the privacy of my own home. This pays off because i make gains faster in the gym, getting over that feeling of inadequacy or embarassment.

Just trust me when I say that most people in the gym don't even pay attention to you unless they themselves are not taking it seriously (and therefore won't be there very long themselves), or they're just straight up assholes (which DO exist but that's just life).

So go in confidence. Take everything... diet, exercise, self-image, etc... one day at a time. If you have a bad day, don't sweat it, make the effort to get better the next. If you have a good day, awesome, keep it going. Just keep driving. It's a long road, but it's worth every step!

1/18/2010 12:22:13 PM

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^ Great post

1/18/2010 12:24:09 PM

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"When you shop, only shop the perimeter of the grocery store. That means the produce section, meats, eggs, juices, cheese, and seafood. The only aisles you should ever go down are the canned foods aisle (for canned veggies only), the drink aisle (water, juice, diet coke, gatorade, whatever), and the hygiene aisle for obvious reasons."


And how about frozen veggies, frozen meat, the aisle w/ shampoo, and the gatorade aisle. Also, oatmeal is on an isle, as are oils and vinegars. Natural pb is, too. So is detergent and paper, etc.


I like your intent, though.

[Edited on January 18, 2010 at 12:32 PM. Reason : canned meat, too]

1/18/2010 12:32:09 PM

thumper
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^he did say the hygiene aisle and the drink aisle

1/18/2010 12:33:34 PM

BridgetSPK
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Hey, Kiwi, maybe reading your bullshit might help you get it right this time. You already know how to lose weight; it's your attitude that's dicking you over. I took the time to format one of our 2007 exchanges because I really care about your health and shit:

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"Kiwi: I don't know. After going through the experiences I have lately I find it hard to be sympathetic with the heavyweights. Except, of course, the ones that medically cannot help it.

If you really want something bad enough you can have it."


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"SourPatchin: The point is that some people don't have to want it "bad enough," and they're still thin/average weight.

Furthermore, I'm kinda disgusted by you. You've started multiple public attempts to lose weight (and failed), and now that you're actually losing weight, you "find it hard to be sympathetic with the heavyweights." That's great. Congratulations on cursing yourself to fatassedness for the rest of your life. Because I guarantee you that if you continue thinking fat folks are significantly different than you, you'll end up fat again..."


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"Kiwi: My lack of sympathy for fatties stems from learning firsthand as a fatty myself that a little fucking effort and willpower does in fact pay off. That someone who has blamed everything in the book for reasons why they can't lose weight can suddenly drop all the lame excuses, get some responsibility and actually try to get thin, healthy.

All those previous attempts at losing weight were awful, maybe I did want to lose weight but clearly that desire was not enough to keep me from gaining. Something inside of me clicked and I am done with being that fat person. I see it is possible to lose weight, get great cardiovascular health, choose healthy foods that will fuel my body, and live a great life even though half a year ago I thought I was destined to be fat, it was my shitty metabolism, genetics, my mom and grandmother are fat.

I don't believe that bullshit when some other fatty jibbers on about those type of excuses. Does that mean I will cut a large person out of my life? Not give them the time of day? Of course not, people are worth more than their outsides. Losing weight has been a life changing battle from me, the personal wisdom, inner strength, the evolution I have seen in myself since starting all this is proof enough for me, if I can do it so can everyone else it just depends on how badly you want it.

Guess that makes me a bitch."


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"SourPatchin: She'll be fat again. For sure.

She's got the perfect attitude for a refatty."


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"Kiwi: Ok first of all, this diet change is called "Stop eating bad fucking food". Something simple everyone can do, I did some research, found out what the body needs to run smoothly, changed fast food runs to nights cooking in. Pretty simple diet. Maybe I counted calories at first just to get an idea, but I don't count anything now. I do check all the nutrition labels on all the food I buy and put back what's unacceptable in my "diet".

Secondly, i am exercising. I go to the gym and sweat my ass off, something people have been recommending for years as the best way to lose weight! not some new tech zap the fat with tiny electrodes.

Thirdly, it's not a diet, it's a life change. things are different when the "diet" becomes a permanent staple in your life. Since I am changing my ways for good and am motivated and dedicated enough to NEVER go back to the way I was before, i think my opinion will carry a little more weight than the typical bandwagon dieter.

I am different from the person I was six months ago. This change is permanent. I will tell you that what has convined me to stay this way for the rest of my life, to work as hard as I do to get in shape, is the feeling I get in being healthy. I can't explain the difference it makes but my body, my machine, the only thing I've got in this world, feels completely different, free, light. My insides have never been better and why should I treat myself so poorly by becoming lazy and making poor food choices? If I want to take care of others, be responsible, I have to first start with myself and letting go with my weight, my health, shows none of that.

Maybe we'll call this "growing up"."


http://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=479397

[Edited on January 18, 2010 at 12:36 PM. Reason : I am SourPatchin, and I'm obviously crazy.]

1/18/2010 12:34:51 PM

arcgreek
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He mentioned fucking soft drinks in a "healthy lifestyle(s)" thread...

1/18/2010 12:34:55 PM

thumper
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^he also mentioned water and gatorade. selective reading FTL?

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"the drink aisle (water, juice, diet coke, gatorade, whatever), "

1/18/2010 12:35:51 PM

PackMan92
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I see nothing wrong with fucking soft drink...it's drinking them that causes a problem

1/18/2010 12:36:42 PM

arcgreek
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Are you really going to go buy fuckign water at a grocery store?

1/18/2010 12:36:42 PM

thumper
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yes, i buy gallons of filtered water at the grocery store to fill my espresso machine. i also buy bottled water to keep in the fridge for when i'm about to run out of the house and want to take along a drink.

1/18/2010 12:37:58 PM

sawahash
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I tell you...you haven't lived until you've fucked a soft drink.

1/18/2010 12:38:19 PM

Quinn
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what kind of attention are you looking for arcgreek? maybe we can give you what you want.

1/18/2010 12:39:05 PM

arcgreek
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buy a bottle and refill it.

buy a jug and refill it.

buy a filter.


I do understand the need for distilled at times.

[Edited on January 18, 2010 at 12:40 PM. Reason : I'm bored today, no class, no work other than the clients i've already met w/]

1/18/2010 12:39:06 PM

AxlBonBach
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you, sir, have never tasted the deliciousness that is Poland Springs.


and yes, i mentioned soft drinks. a diet coke every now and then ain't gonna hurt anybody.

1/18/2010 12:39:21 PM

PackMan92
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^5 Brita pitcher + water bottle ?

[Edited on January 18, 2010 at 12:40 PM. Reason : ]

1/18/2010 12:39:28 PM

sawahash
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you also have lived until you've seen fucking water...

watching water fuck is something that most people only dream of.

1/18/2010 12:40:08 PM

thumper
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we have a fridge that has a filter and stuff, but it comes out so slooooow that i just like the convenience of bottled water.

so fucking shoot me.

or just go fuck a soft drink.

1/18/2010 12:40:22 PM

sawahash
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Do you at least recycle the bottles?

1/18/2010 12:40:59 PM

arcgreek
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your husband's bank account would thank me for my Rx

1/18/2010 12:41:07 PM

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1/18/2010 12:42:19 PM

sawahash
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You know how they say never go to the grocery store when you're hungry?

That is a really hard rule to follow...cause I'm always hungry.

1/18/2010 12:43:46 PM

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Woohoo guys!! Great post Axlbon, it is about getting started slowly. Last time I went full blown and after expending all that hardcore effort (like almost to obsession) once I got to a good weight I didn't know what to do and it was a slippery slope downward. So I want this to be the LAST time I ever have to go through this. So once I reach my optimum weight how do I maintain it? Do I have to work as hard as I did to lose it? I hope not. Last time I lost weight I cut every little bad thing out and went to the gym 5 times a week, two with a PT strength training and three on my own doing cardio, now I'm cool with doing that to lose the weight but what about after?

Also, I cut all the bad shit out that when I stopped doing the PT sessions it was easy to convince myself to eat this thing because I had been without for so long.. I know this was a mistake and need better personal control which going to the gym usually helps.

So folks, what do you do to maintain your ideal weight?

1/18/2010 12:45:05 PM

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I SWEAR TO GOD IF MY POSTS GO UNNOTICED AND I DON'T GET TO FUCKING FIGHT WITH SOMEBODY, I'M GONNA BE SO PISSED.

I TOLD THIS KIWI BITCH PRECISELY WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT NOOOO....SHE SAID SHE HAD NO SYMPATHY FOR FAT PEOPLE. SHE PUT DOWN OTHER PEOPLE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO DO WHAT SHE DID: “STOP EATING BAD FOOD” AND “SWEAT HER ASS OFF.” SHE CALLED IT A LIFE CHANGING BATTLE WHERE SHE GAINED PERSONAL WISDOM AND INNER STRENGTH. SHE CLAIMED SHE HAD MADE A PERMANENT CHANGE IN HER LIFE, THAT SHE WAS A DIFFERENT, THAT SHE HAD FINALLY GROWN UP. AND SHE BACKED UP HER LACK OF SYMPATHY FOR FAT PEOPLE BY CLAIMING SHE HAD MORE CREDIBILITY THAN THE AVERAGE DIETER SINCE SHE HAD THE MOTIVATION AND DEDICATION TO NEVER GO BACK TO THE WAY SHE WAS BEFORE.

I'M PETTY AS FUCK, AND I WANT AN APOLOGY.

1/18/2010 12:45:45 PM

thumper
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"Do you at least recycle the bottles?"


Oh yeah, absolutely. We recycle everything.

And I do use the filtered water from the fridge a lot. I buy a 24pk of bottled water maybe once a month. So it's not like I'm drinking 3 of them a day.

I think someone's just trying to troll me.

1/18/2010 12:46:46 PM

MattJMM2
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"yes but the 5x5 is most common amongst bodybuilders and those trying to bulk

I doubt that's what she wants"


Aren't you supposed to be a trainer?

Bulking and cutting are functions of DIET, not set/rep ranges. No matter how she works out, her size and body compositions are going to be most affected by her macro-nutrients and kcal intake.

Lower rep, higher intensity (1-5reps) work focuses on your body's ability to recruit more muscle units and ability to rate code, which is to use the muscle units more efficiently/faster. This can result in myofibril hypertrophy.

Higher rep, lower intensity (5-12reps) work focuses on the metabolic pathways of your muscles. It essentially increases the muscles endurance. This can equate to sarcoplasmic hypertrophy.

This works on a continuum and is not mutually exclusive. In other words, you can focus on neuromusclar strength and size depending on your volume/intensity.

By the way, the word toning is rather bullshit. Muscles either get bigger or smaller, our body fat gets higher or lower. The stronger a muscle is, the more of of a residual contraction it will have. This is what muscle tone is. If you want to "tone up" it is a matter of losing body fat and getting stronger.

[Edited on January 18, 2010 at 12:50 PM. Reason : i suck at grammer and spelling]

1/18/2010 12:47:31 PM

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^^^I noticed it...I was waiting for her to say something though....

[Edited on January 18, 2010 at 12:49 PM. Reason : ]

1/18/2010 12:48:00 PM

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So, ummm, does Wii Fit count as exercise?? I mean if you actually do it to sweat and stuff...

1/18/2010 12:49:38 PM

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BridgetSPK

1/18/2010 12:51:46 PM

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For someone who made a permanent fucking change in their life, you sure are asking some stupid fucking questions about gyms and exercise!

Is it supposed to be cute and endearing?

[Edited on January 18, 2010 at 12:52 PM. Reason : ^Haaaaay!]

1/18/2010 12:52:17 PM

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so I was thinking...you know since I can't afford liposuction or anything or a tummy tuck...I might just take matters into my own hand...act like I have a freak out session and just cut the fat off my stomach...so then doctors will be forced to fix it up...then I'll have scars but I can use that for me and I will become the mysterious girl with scars and no one knows what happened to me.

Then one guy falls in love with me and I'll be afraid to get undressed in front of him because the scars I have are so ugly but he tells me he will love me no matter what I look like. So I take off my shirt and he sees the scars and they don't scare him and he still loves me for who I am.

1/18/2010 12:53:53 PM

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LOL Why are you so mad? Yeah I'm fucking ashamed I fell off that amazing wagon and I've beaten myself up over it enough already, it's not going to help me change. What will help me change is realizing what I did wrong and fix it so I'm not in the same spot again. My opinion on being a fatty still stands even though I, too, am a fattyfatty, it may take a lot of effort but if you really want it you can get it.

You mad, dawg?

[Edited on January 18, 2010 at 12:57 PM. Reason : hurr]

1/18/2010 12:55:30 PM

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lol bridget totally owned up in this bitch

kiwi you're a joke

if you were really motivated you wouldn't make a thread

you'd just do it.

1/18/2010 12:55:43 PM

Kiwi
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Some of us are not as easily motivated, a little advice, support, and friendliness can go a long way.

1/18/2010 12:57:01 PM

sawahash
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damn it...someone acknowledge my great story line.

1/18/2010 12:57:08 PM

Kiwi
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It's great but you might as well replace scars with fat... know what I mean?

[Edited on January 18, 2010 at 12:58 PM. Reason : ugh]

1/18/2010 12:57:53 PM

thumper
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^^your last post made me all

you have some weird thoughts chica

1/18/2010 12:58:17 PM

arcgreek
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hahah good catch matt

1/18/2010 12:58:47 PM

sawahash
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it's my imagination...it's crazy! You should hear the crazy things I think up that I don't tell people!

1/18/2010 12:59:09 PM

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"o I was thinking...you know since I can't afford liposuction or anything or a tummy tuck...I might just take matters into my own hand...act like I have a freak out session and just cut the fat off my stomach...so then doctors will be forced to fix it up...then I'll have scars but I can use that for me and I will become the mysterious girl with scars and no one knows what happened to me.

Then one guy falls in love with me and I'll be afraid to get undressed in front of him because the scars I have are so ugly but he tells me he will love me no matter what I look like. So I take off my shirt and he sees the scars and they don't scare him and he still loves me for who I am."


FIRST WORLD PROBLEM.

Hey you know what you can afford? Going outside and running.

I swear to god I want to punch in the face every fat fuck that whines about being fat in this fat fucking country.

You say you don't have thirty minutes a day to exercise? YOU'RE A FUCKING LIAR. Why don't you just DVR "CSI: Miami," take your fat fucking lard ass outside and go jogging for thirty minutes.

1/18/2010 12:59:11 PM

sawahash
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^I thought it was pretty obvious that what I said there was a joke....but obviously not to you

1/18/2010 1:00:17 PM

God
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It's so frustrating because you're like

"OMG ITS SO HARRRRRRRRRRRD"

No it's fucking not.

Put on some shoes.

Go outside.

Run.

Come back.

Do that every day.

1/18/2010 1:01:35 PM

sawahash
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Are you talking to me or Kiwi?

I'm not the one complaining...I've been going out and getting my cardio on by running/walking on the road and beach....

1/18/2010 1:03:07 PM

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