teeth and she layed there

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[Edited on April 22, 2010 at 10:05 AM. Reason : because she was dead]

4/22/2010 9:59:47 AM

Getting married without having sex first is one of the dumbest things you could possibly do.

4/22/2010 10:09:21 AM

right after getting married BECAUSE of sex

4/22/2010 10:10:21 AM

Quote :

"Getting married without having sex first is one of the dumbest things you could possibly do."

thinking you have a clue as to what works for other people is one of the dumbest things you could possibly do.

4/22/2010 10:10:23 AM

but having sex and making a baby then getting married because of the baby is worse

[Edited on April 22, 2010 at 10:15 AM. Reason : a]

4/22/2010 10:14:31 AM

^^ I'm sorry for thinking that making an uninformed lifelong commitment is a bad idea.

^ True.

4/22/2010 10:17:57 AM

Who says it is an uninformed decision, though?

Personally? I would want to know I have the sexual connection/chemistry with the woman I want to spend the rest of my life with... but there are people who have far deeper connections and that sexual connection is very far down the list.

----- My question is how common it is for a girl (or guy) to want to save themselves for marriage but not care if their partner has done the same. And further, would they be absolutely destroyed if they later found out that their partner was not a virgin before marriage. I know, odd questions, but it's just a curiosity of mine.

[Edited on April 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM. Reason : speaking of the religious people mostly]

4/22/2010 10:23:17 AM

52% of couples don't have sex on their wedding night.

4/22/2010 11:21:16 AM

^ I'm pretty sure I won't


think about how busy that day is... I'll probably ptfo that night

4/22/2010 11:32:36 AM

it's true, by the time you get to your honeymoon spot you have to really have the WILL to rock the boat... i had the will but i definitely thought about just hittin the hay

4/22/2010 11:34:15 AM

I'm sayin.. maybe it's because we've already done it -- I'm more interested in going to Disney World than laying around fucking 24/7 for my honeymoon... why pay thousands of dollars to do something I could easily do at home

[Edited on April 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM. Reason : .]

4/22/2010 11:35:36 AM

i believe that 52% number

4/22/2010 11:36:38 AM

we waited 6 months before doing our honeymoon. After the wedding we spent a couple of nights in a B&B - then went to FLA later. Was nice to laze around - visit pound town and open our gifts.

Any of you do the whole no sex for two months before the wedding plan?

4/22/2010 11:53:48 AM

^ I really don't understand that last part. What's the point of it? To build up the anticipation?

Bump that, I'm impatient.

4/22/2010 11:57:37 AM

Quagmire reveals he is a virgin ITT

4/22/2010 11:58:02 AM

This thread is another good example of why Spontaneous shouldn't post in sex threads.

4/22/2010 12:59:53 PM

At first I thought it was the script and I was like
But then I saw it was true (again) and I was like

4/22/2010 1:01:04 PM

AHA

4/22/2010 1:02:49 PM

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"52% of couples don't have sex on their wedding night."

we didn't. We got to our hotel room, ordered pizza, and then passed the fuck out. It was a longass tiring day.

4/22/2010 1:03:00 PM

is ggmon married to skewfield

4/22/2010 1:07:02 PM

We did the no sex thing for a month until marriage...

And then on wedding day we were too tired to do it even though we really wanted to

4/22/2010 1:15:35 PM

Related to page 1 discussion, Mormons probably have low divorce rates because it means they wouldn't be allowed into the eternal kingdom to spend the afterlife with their families and whatnot. Same reason most Mormons marry other Mormons, because not marrying in the temple means no sweet afterlife party.

4/22/2010 1:25:54 PM

that and mormon women pretty much aren't afforded a decent education or allowed to have viable careers, so divorce pretty much guarantees being fucked.

I don't know what Utah's laws are like regarding division of property, alimony, etc., but given the influence the mormon church has on state government, i would guess it's not going to be very favorable towards women in any way, shape, or form.

4/22/2010 1:30:37 PM

are you guys referring to Pound, VA?

http://maps.google.com/maps/place?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=pound,+va&fb=1&gl=us&ftid=0x8845344c8ecc937f:0xf45396326b004af4&ei=MYjQS77THIa0lQfx09DDDw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CAoQ8gEwAA

4/22/2010 1:32:47 PM

Lucy took my virginity in the. Back of an '83 Buick.

Then divorced me on the courthouse lawn

4/22/2010 1:37:28 PM

my best trophy to date!

4/22/2010 1:39:07 PM

You're late with the alimony again

4/22/2010 1:43:27 PM

Quote :

"Quagmire reveals he is a virgin ITT"

yep, you pegged me

actually, what i revealed is that i understand that not everyone considers sex the single most important part of a relationship and that i don't feel like i need to justify my life choices by criticizing others in a way that implies that i know everything about every human being on the planet

but yeah, let's go with quagmire's never had sex...that should help you feel better about yourself

4/22/2010 2:00:25 PM

you into pegging?

4/22/2010 2:00:50 PM

50 BUCKS he doesn't know about pegging

4/22/2010 2:02:21 PM

i'd need odds to take that bet

4/22/2010 2:02:53 PM

7/2

4/22/2010 2:03:17 PM

Quote :

""TAKEN TO POUND TOWN""

lol

4/22/2010 2:12:33 PM

Quote :

"I really don't understand that last part. What's the point of it? To build up the anticipation?"

Ya - and it worked. We fucked on the wedding night. We were tired but come on, is too tired to bwn even a thing?

I had to google pegging - won;t lie.

4/23/2010 11:23:31 AM

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"On the flip side, rarely do marriages fail because of bad sex" that is INCREDIBLY untrue."

well i heard that ANY sex is good sex when you are married so

marriages fail because of no sex

4/23/2010 1:01:22 PM

so i took what i could get, yeah i took what i could get

4/23/2010 1:07:06 PM

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"is too tired to bwn even a thing"

hell yes it is, although it's more frequently a "thing" for my wife, who works 80-100 hours a week.

4/23/2010 1:12:54 PM

have been married for 3 years - sex every second night. happy with that.

4/23/2010 1:14:59 PM

are you married to skewfield

4/23/2010 1:16:39 PM

Division ring?

4/23/2010 1:22:30 PM

no, the fat girl

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 1:25 PM. Reason : e]

4/23/2010 1:25:04 PM

no

4/23/2010 1:37:33 PM

I've dated sluts and virgins and just about everything in between, so for the sake of argument, let's assume I have some experience to back up what I'm talking about here. Three scenarios:

1) He/She is a virgin, you are not

Whether they give it up to you while engaged or on your wedding day, they are still like Play-Doh in your hands. You know what you like, they have some idea of what to do. You have the pleasure of crafting them into the most perfect bedroom playmate you could ever want. You're getting married, so they obviously love you (or they better, anyway), so they want you to be happy just like they want to be happy. Open their world to sex in the right way, and life will be great. Don't think your partner can't learn either. Odds are, they already know of a lot of things they want to try.

**Disclaimer: enthusiasm and patience is a must here. Find some good clean porn (decent looking people, no crazy cum spraying, etc) to watch if you need to get the learning process jump-started.

2) You are a virgin, they are not

You only need to know two things in relation to how many people they have slept with: whether it is more or less than two other people, and whether they had a past track record for repeat customers. These are important because if they have only had sex with a couple people a couple times, they are bringing about as much to the table as you are. Don't expect the world during your first few rounds. If they are "more worldly" (more than two partners, lots of repeat business), however, you should expect them to figure your body out pretty quickly.

Guy virgins: Watch some porn. Learn the basics. Don't try to impress her right out of the gate. Odds are she's been in that position before. Most people have a couple positions they really like, so LISTEN to her and remember those. Those will be your opening and closing acts. When you get better and can last longer, start to have a little more fun. Don't be a dick about having sex either- she's gone a while without it dating you, she can likely go longer.

Girl virgins: He's marrying you, so he obviously loves you. It isn't about the sex, or he would be with someone else. Deal with that first and move on. Now that you have stowed your insecurities, learn to be vocal. Say what feels good, what doesn't, provide ideas and suggestions. Good communication means better sex. Don't shy away from his ideas and advice, especially if he's been around. What worked for one of his other partners may become your new favorite position. Remember that he's with you now (and forever), not them. Learn from their experience.

3) Both are virgins

Move out of Amish-land. People have sex today- it's just what they do. Since you are getting married though, and you both don't have a clue what you're doing, you need to find friends who do. Ask LOTS of questions of multiple friends before you dive in. Watch some quality examples either on DVD or online. Get used to the idea of masturbating if you don't already- it will get your sex drive going. Be patient with one another. Since it is likely that you both are pretty bad in bed, what with having no experience, you don't want to let a couple bad attempts in your first few tries ruin things for the two of you.

I have a couple friends who were virgins when they married each other. They had trouble initially, and now they hardly ever have sex. No kids, no pets, no obligations, and no sex. Don't be like these people. Sex is a great fix for a bad day at work, a fight, exercise, and good ol' fashioned passionate love-making. Learn to do it, learn to love it.

4/23/2010 2:27:39 PM

no one's reading that

4/23/2010 2:31:11 PM

sounds like a woman wrote that

i stopped reading

4/23/2010 2:32:02 PM

Quote :

"3) Both are virgins Move out of Amish-land. People have sex today- it's just what they do. Since you are getting married though, and you both don't have a clue what you're doing, you need to find friends who do. Ask LOTS of questions of multiple friends before you dive in."

i don't get it...why do you assume that just because a person's a virgin, it means they "don't have a clue" about what they're doing?

it's crazy that people have been able to enjoy and successfully have sex for millenia without a instructional videos!

4/23/2010 2:40:51 PM

Yeah my first time was with a virgin too.
I think that we knew what to do
it was like

4/23/2010 2:44:52 PM

The virgins I have been with didn't know what they were doing. That is not to say, however, that they didn't learn quickly. Not saying it can't be done, it's just not as likely to be done well at the beginning.

Granted, a sample size of three is not a great personal sample size, but I believe there is truth in my statement. Maybe not for all, but definitely for most.

4/23/2010 2:44:55 PM

^^^From the producers that brought you "We've been doing it this way for thousands of years, there's no point in changing anything now" there comes a new line of logic, which begs to argue "Just because I've never done it doesn't mean I'm not an expert on the subject!"

Coming to Rhetors Near You, This Friday

[Edited on April 23, 2010 at 2:47 PM. Reason : f]

4/23/2010 2:47:24 PM

yawn

4/23/2010 2:48:09 PM