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5/2/2008 8:50:15 PM

If you do not:
- use a turn signal
- turn on your lights in tunnels, the rain, dusk/after dark
- use the left lane for passing only
- use your time and space wisely (e.g., waiting until the last possible minute to get out of the exit only lane that's had EXIT ONLY signs for over a mile)

You deserve to die in a fire, after Weird Al sodomizes you with a large pinecone marinated in tabasco after force-feeding you Taco Bell and laxatives for 12 hours.

5/19/2008 3:25:43 AM

Whilst I agree, why does it have to be Weird Al?

5/19/2008 3:27:40 AM

He's the first prick that came to mind

5/19/2008 3:31:14 AM

I suppose his hair would be suitable for haunting people's dreams.

Sort of like kenny g with more jewish.

That's a pretty terrifying image by itself.

5/19/2008 3:32:33 AM

My favourite people are the blinged-out bitches in SUVs that, even when you are traveling at speed (and by "at speed" I mean 75 or above) in the left lane, will insist on tailgating your ass anyway.

When I tap the brakes, that's a signal to stop camping my rear bumper because it has no phat lewtz. It does NOT mean "try to run me off the road while talking on the phone with your drug dealer boyfriend, then cut off all the other lanes of traffic and almost cause an accident in an attempt to get off the next exit before I can get the number on your plate and call it in to the Highway Patrol."

Makes me wish I had a rocket launcher mounted on my car. There'd be some serious flaming wreckage on the side of the road then.

5/19/2008 7:17:06 AM

^still, move over unless passing or obstructed

and

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" exaggerate "racing hands" on my steering wheel by sliding them back and forth real fast "

lol wtf is that

5/19/2008 9:41:09 AM

^ no. if you are way above the limit, you are not obligated to move over. the left lane is the passing lane. not the fast lane. if you are passing (2-5mph faster) people to your right, you are fine. just because someone wants to go 40 over doesnt mean you have to move over. if you are right at the limit while passing, or under, then try to move over if theres a big enough gap. but thats just being polite since the norm is 5-10 over.

^^ next time slam on the brakes and let them buy you a new car. her fault for following too close 99% of the time. or just take your foot off the gas and match speed to the right and punish them for a while. really only works with a 2-lane (4 total) highway.

[Edited on May 19, 2008 at 9:45 AM. Reason : t]

5/19/2008 9:44:48 AM

^good in theory, suicidal in practice.

5/19/2008 9:46:39 AM

^^no mention of cars in the right lane. sounds like he was just chilling in the left lane doing 10-15 over when someone rides up to him wanting to go faster. If someone wants to do 40 over and is coming up on you, just go ahead and get in the right lane. It's much safer for everyone and makes a hell of a lot more sense.

5/19/2008 9:58:09 AM

^^ not really. unless its a semi or dump truck, you are rarely in danger. dont get pushed around in the road, same as with the rest of the world.

^sure, but why were you cruising in the left if there were no cars in the right to begin with?

[Edited on May 19, 2008 at 10:00 AM. Reason : d]

5/19/2008 9:59:36 AM

if someone is doing 40 over you need to call the fucking police, not worry about whether you should move over
this isn't the fucking autoban

5/19/2008 10:02:32 AM

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"^^ next time slam on the brakes and let them buy you a new car. her fault for following too close 99% of the time. or just take your foot off the gas and match speed to the right and punish them for a while. really only works with a 2-lane (4 total) highway."

ha! I'd rather get "pushed around" than be dead because an SUV plowed into me when I intentionally slammed on my brakes. Purposely causing an accident is just about the dumbest thing you can do on the road.

that said, if someone's tailgating me and I'm in the right lane (wtf why do people do this?) then I'll tap my brakes.

5/19/2008 10:07:31 AM

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"If you have some fancy, expensive sportscar, don't drive it like it's a 15yo minivan tinbox. You probably buy a $2000 digital SLR and use it like a point-and-shoot."

Even if you have some fancy, expensive sports car, that's no excuse to use the road as your personal racetrack. Driving on the highway is not fun, driving 35 over doesn't make it more fun. (though driving at or under the speed limit does definitely make it less fun). And while I'd be lying if I said I've never thrown my car around on some twisty roads, I know it's not safe behavior and should not be done. If you buy a sports car and want to utilize its capabilities, take it to the track or to an autoX. Otherwise fall in with the folks in their 15 year old minivans and enjoy the fact that you're the one people are looking at enviously.



[Edited on May 19, 2008 at 10:10 AM. Reason : and no I do not drive a sports car, so maybe I just don't know]

5/19/2008 10:09:33 AM

The only thing more annoying than slow people in the left lane is drivers who fly in the left lane but slam on the brakes every time they see one of those "Authorized Vehicles Only" signs on the highways in anticipation of the police.

5/19/2008 10:13:59 AM

Like on 85 towards and into VA

5/19/2008 10:16:35 AM

^^^^ that was mostly a joke. break tapping and slowing down is the only recommend action. but i do consider it once in a while for a particularly bad driver. more so when i had my beater and full coverage.

5/19/2008 10:19:17 AM

why do drivers find it necessary to keep their car within a certain proximity to mine? if we are doing 70 the last thing i want to worry about is the one other car on the road being too close to allow me to change lanes/reduce speed safely. and for fuck's sake stop boxing me into the right lane when i am passing highway exits... people are merging, and i put on my signal to get in the left lane to be courteous to the big ass dump truck merging on my right, and you pull parallel to me on my left side as we pass the merge point...

I am talking about times when passing me isn't necessary to do whatever fucking speed you want
don't drive so
don't drive so
don't drive so close to me

5/19/2008 10:19:49 AM

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"sure, but why were you cruising in the left if there were no cars in the right to begin with"

exactly my point. the story is about him, not me. why was HE in the left lane blocking the faster guy when the right lane was free?

Yeah 40-over can be dangerous. Now you made it more dangerous by making him have to fly around you in the right lane. That, or slam on their brakes because they thought you had sense enough to let someone by. And "40 over" is an extreme case. If you're doing 10 over and someone wants to do 13 over and given the same situation as above, you should move over. It's not letting yourself be bullied, it's common sense.

[Edited on May 19, 2008 at 10:23 AM. Reason : ^maybe they want to go 75mph and you're blocking??]

5/19/2008 10:22:07 AM

i thought this thread said Athens Drivers

5/19/2008 10:25:42 AM

lawl
appropriate

5/19/2008 10:26:15 AM

^^^ running too close behind someone is not the answer for wanting to go faster. ever. you should always be in the right lane unless there are 3 lanes. then go to the center. left lane is for passing. right is for cruising unless there are 3+. if there are, center is for cruising and right is for people merging onto the highway. but thats how i see it.

edit: some of these rules change when near or at gridlock. then you need to just space the cars out so everyone isnt in the right lane blocking people coming on to the highway. but then, no one is curteous at gridlock, so it becomes dog eat dog pretty damn quick and i just try to stay out of the way.

also: to the guy in the red truck who beeped at me, when he approached me doing 40, stopped at the right light for the turn onto 40W at gorman, and then proceeded to fly by me (me on a bike) on my LEFT through the intersection without even slowing down: fuck you with a wire brush.


[Edited on May 19, 2008 at 10:33 AM. Reason : s]

5/19/2008 10:26:41 AM

fucking thank you
there isn't any excuse for you speed racer motherfuckers to want to drive like that these days anyway

5/19/2008 10:28:48 AM

I drive on the highway the same way in my 500hp sports car as in my 150hp econocar. Very sensibly.

I don't know why there's an argument here. You guys all agree that the left lane is for passing, but you keep saying that you should be entitled to the left lane as long as you're going 10+ over. Well, you're wrong.

Also, there are (many) times people need a little pressure to get them to move over. Like if you come up on people and matched their pace, keeping a nice 2-seconds distance, they think "well hey, looks like he doesn't want to pass anymore so I'll just stay here." If they've been hogging the lane for a while, then it's obvious they need a little hint. And I'm not talking about extreme tailgating. And obviously, I'm not going to *pressure* some car in the middle of heavy traffic where you can't help the slowness

[Edited on May 19, 2008 at 10:43 AM. Reason : ]

5/19/2008 10:41:34 AM

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"no mention of cars in the right lane. sounds like she was just chilling in the left lane doing 10-15 over when someone rides up to him wanting to go faster"

Actually, there was an implicit mention:

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"...cut off all the other lanes of traffic and almost cause an accident in an attempt to get off the next exit..."

It was the Beltline, it was at the start of rush hour, and yes there were cars in the right lanes. There were quite a few cars in the right lanes--I was in the process of passing one of them and doing ~70. Woman comes screaming up and starts camping my bumper, so I speed up to 75. She continues camping my bumper, so I just kept increasing my speed--I finally got to ~85 and decided that I'd had enough of her game, and tapped the brakes to flash the brake lights and let her know that if she wanted to go $texas/h, she would have to wait and let me get the fuck over to the right.

Before I could get over, she zipped into the lane to my immediate right (cutting off another car) and tried to put me into the wall right before the Blue Ridge Road exit--all the while screaming out her open window at me. When I hit the brakes to rapidly decelerate (nobody was behind me, thank Odin), she immediately flew across the highway and damn near caused a multiple-car accident when she cut off everyone that was in the lanes between me and the exit.

So yeah--I would concede your point if I were indeed just chillin' in the passing lane. But I was there to pass, not just to chill out.

5/19/2008 2:31:10 PM

hahaha, the first thing i thought of doing when i read the first post was to post

~

but i already did that in the second reply

5/19/2008 2:54:27 PM

I think people with huge ass SUVs/trucks should be required to have cameras installed on their cars that record everything they do while driving and then I could call some phone number and say black Tahoe with LP# - FAG-1234 was being an ass at 4:20 pm and then some department would review that clip and give the mother fucker 4 reckless driving tickets.

5/19/2008 3:14:31 PM

I'm not changing lanes twice over 0.5 miles because you want to go 10 over in the city limits. kthx.

5/19/2008 3:18:05 PM

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"You deserve to die in a fire, after Weird Al sodomizes you with a large pinecone marinated in tabasco after force-feeding you Taco Bell and laxatives for 12 hours."

that sounds like a good wednesday night to me

5/19/2008 3:19:30 PM

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"the left lane is the passing lane. not the fast lane."

then why do signs read "slower traffic keep right" if its not considered the "fast lane"

5/19/2008 3:20:04 PM

I hate it when traffic is backed up and there is a lane that is closing but people don't attempt to merge in immediately, they'll just go all the way to the end of the closing lane hoping somebody will yield to them and thus getting "ahead" of traffic. Acts like that pisses me off and if somebody did that with me beside them, I would not yield to them and hope the others behind me will make this person wait for a while before he/she can merge.

Also, some people with "nice" sports cars choose to drive the speed limit because 20mph over isn't as gas efficient. You'd be surprised the difference your mpg is from 80mph to 65 or 55mph.



[Edited on May 19, 2008 at 3:27 PM. Reason : :]

5/19/2008 3:22:54 PM

^ When people do that I don't let them in.

5/19/2008 3:28:13 PM

^^its not a huge deal, people know you get better mileage if you drive slower. Sure I can get 32mpg if I drive 55-60mph, and I get about 27-29mpg if i drive 80. But guess what, if I'm driving from NYC to Raleigh I could give a shit about $15 in gas if it saves me 2 hrs of driving time.

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"if someone is doing 40 over you need to call the fucking police, not worry about whether you should move over this isn't the fucking autoban"

Unless the road is crowded, they're swerving in and out of lanes, and/or they're tailgating then you shouldn't really care how fast they're going.

And a lot of people don't consider 75mph in the left lane to be fast (in a 65 zone). Try that on the NJ Turnpike and see how many people you piss off. Pass your cars and get over. I had the cruise set to 80 last night on the 'Pike and I was in the left lane only to pass. There were plenty of cars going 85-90 that whizzed past.

5/19/2008 3:46:12 PM

^Agreed, that's what I do (set the cruise).

5/19/2008 9:01:22 PM

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"even when you are traveling at speed (and by "at speed" I mean 75 or above) in the left lane, will insist on tailgating your ass anyway. "

that's because you're wrong for being in the left lane. it doesn't matter if you're going 75 or 175, if you aren't overtaking anyone, get your ass out of the passing lane.

Maybe he wanted to go 76.

5/19/2008 9:04:21 PM

I don't understand why people hate being in the right lane. Is it really that horrible to occasionally get over to let someone on the interstate? If anything it helps you stay awake and more alert while you drive.

5/19/2008 9:08:43 PM

I think the left lane is starting to become the new right lane. People just camp out over there and go as slow as the want to. The don't have to worry about cars entering the interstate and can just go along as slow as they want to and not be bothered.
I went up to DC last weekend and the left two lanes of 95 were crowded as hell and the right lane was clear. So thats where I went.

5/19/2008 9:16:17 PM

i hate far right lanes on interstates cause they're worn out, same thing with spring forest rd just east of falls of the neuse rd

5/19/2008 9:16:56 PM

i don't know about you, but if i have the cruise set at say, 75, have just passed someone, and see that i'm going to have to pass another car shortly, i don't get back into the right lane. especially if i see that i'll have trouble getting back into the left lane. deal with it for the few seconds it will take me to pass the cars doing 50 in the right lane. i'm not trying to fuck with you.

5/19/2008 9:23:40 PM

^well, yeah, assuming that you're about to pass another car very shortly. reasonable-man theory applies.

there are a whole bunch of dumbasses who just flat out drive in the left lane, though.

[Edited on May 19, 2008 at 9:31 PM. Reason : and i show them no mercy or courtesy]

5/19/2008 9:31:09 PM

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"My favourite people are the blinged-out bitches in SUVs that, even when you are traveling at speed (and by "at speed" I mean 75 or above) in the left lane, will insist on tailgating your ass anyway ... and if you are way above the limit, you are not obligated to move over. the left lane is the passing lane. not the fast lane. if you are passing (2-5mph faster) people to your right, you are fine. just because someone wants to go 40 over doesnt mean you have to move over."

What is up with people and their egos ... I pride my self on being the easiest guy in the world to pass. It's really easy, just pass and move right ... (within reason) ... I don't care how fast anyone wants to go or what they drive. The faster they get by me, the safer I am.

5/19/2008 10:02:57 PM

How am I supposed to remember any of this while talking on the phone and eating king crab? That's just too much to ask.

5/19/2008 11:17:25 PM

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"then why do signs read "slower traffic keep right" if its not considered the "fast lane""

aha

5/19/2008 11:19:22 PM

^^^^ hmmm, you may be surprised at the lack of reasonableness on I-40 eastbound on a Friday night.

5/19/2008 11:23:27 PM

left please

5/19/2008 11:28:55 PM

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"If you buy a sports car and want to utilize its capabilities, take it to the track or to an autoX. Otherwise fall in with the folks in their 15 year old minivans and enjoy the fact that you're the one people are looking at enviously."

When I made that post, I was thinking of this person in a BMW coupe of some sort who felt it appropriate to slow to ~10?mph to make a right turn from Western onto Nazareth.

I take the curve much faster in my ford escort

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"I hate it when traffic is backed up and there is a lane that is closing but people don't attempt to merge in immediately, they'll just go all the way to the end of the closing lane hoping somebody will yield to them and thus getting "ahead" of traffic."

God. Saw this today on I80 in Nevada. People don't/won't realize how much that sitting there to be let in slows traffic.
Finally, two semis coordinated to force folks over I love seeing them police the roads in ways like that.

And of course,

5/20/2008 3:43:51 AM

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"If you buy a sports car and want to utilize its capabilities, take it to the track or to an autoX. Otherwise fall in with the folks in their 15 year old minivans and enjoy the fact that you're the one people are looking at enviously." "

I'd say the truth is in the middle

as someone who knows an order of magnitude more about driving than joe average, and who drives a world class performance car, I utilize some of its capabilities quite comfortably and safely, while doing the same would be unadviseable, reckless, dangerous, and/or physically impossible for an average driver in an average car (or an average driver in a great car, or a great driver in an average car).

That said, I do agree that NOBODY should be driving at 10/10ths in ANY car on a public road. If you want to REALLY wring it out, absolutely take it to the track, for your sake and everyone else's.

5/21/2008 4:26:52 PM

btw, I have been wondering for a while. if you have a small sedan/coupe (civic, accord, camry, mustang, etc), is it possible to flip it while taking a corner too quickly? i have always thought since coupes and sedan's have such low centers of gravity compared to trucks and SUVs, it would be pretty hard to flip or roll one just going through a fast turn (supposing you dont hit something). more likely to spin out or under steer/etc. but I have never asked someone, so, is it possible or likely?

5/21/2008 4:58:53 PM

it is but would take some work to do so

this doesnt mean that you should try to be an asshole though

5/21/2008 5:08:59 PM

it would take more than work

it would take a perfect storm of bad circumstances

5/21/2008 5:11:57 PM