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7/6/2008 11:48:58 PM

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"stillfuchsia, you're a fucking idiot. that comment was in reference to this statement"

I'm not an idiot. Pointing out that you read all the books you listed was ridiculous. I don't think anyone in here would recommend something without having read it. Snewf was obviously joking.

Even then, you could've just said you had read them instead of qualifying it with "oh but I'm an English major," 'cause I'm sure nobody cares that any of us are.

[Edited on July 6, 2008 at 11:50 PM. Reason : .]

7/6/2008 11:49:35 PM

East Of Eden - Steinbeck

The Waste Land - TS Elliot

The Enormous Room - EE Cummings

The Count of Monte Christo - Dumas

The Devine Comedy - Dante

The Picture of Dorian Grey - Oscar Wilde

Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad

7/6/2008 11:49:49 PM

7/6/2008 11:50:02 PM

oic.

7/6/2008 11:50:17 PM

I dunno

I recommended the Bible

and like everyone else I've only skimmed it

shit, people should probably read the Koran too

7/6/2008 11:50:22 PM

Qur'an

and yeah, people should at least study it if they have any interest in global affairs.

[Edited on July 6, 2008 at 11:52 PM. Reason : k]

7/6/2008 11:52:26 PM

i think books like pride and prejudice and great expectations should be burned and never be read again


jesus reading that literary garbage sucked ass

7/6/2008 11:53:08 PM

i'd think you'd be better off with the cliff's notes than reading a book that long about a religion you don't subscribe to

7/6/2008 11:53:14 PM

Elass's "Understanding the Koran" is a quick read and a great way to get the jist of it.

7/6/2008 11:54:05 PM

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"i think books like pride and prejudice and great expectations should be burned and never be read again"

those are both books I'd recommend, though Austen over Dickens any day

[Edited on July 6, 2008 at 11:55 PM. Reason : .]

7/6/2008 11:54:49 PM

^how-ever-many to stillfuchsia - i'm not even going to fucking "defend" myself. you're being a bitch just for the sake of being a bitch. i'm not concerned with impressing you or a single other person on tww...it's the internet for god's sake

oh, and i'm sure you've never said things on tww that "no one cares about"


[Edited on July 7, 2008 at 12:00 AM. Reason : df]

7/6/2008 11:55:32 PM

^^i do not see how those are literary classics

they are horrible

^

[Edited on July 6, 2008 at 11:56 PM. Reason : ,]

7/6/2008 11:56:01 PM

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"i think books like pride and prejudice and great expectations should be burned and never be read again"

Well- I wouldn't take it that far. I've read them and didn't like them, I did not see what made them so great. If you read what other people have to say about books than it kind of ruins them for you. Reading a book like Great Expectations and saying it is great because Dickens wrote it, or because a literary scholar said it was great doesn't make much sense to me.

Anyways- everyone has their own tastes, maybe some people claim to like those books because it makes them look smarter, or perhaps they truly enjoyed them. Beats me- I can't see how anyone could enjoy Hamlet or Crime and Punishment, yet some people do.

7/7/2008 12:03:30 AM

i like how people claim "it's just the internet" after they get pissy or refuse to defend themselves--as they're defending themselves...isn't there a word for that

7/7/2008 12:04:35 AM

i didn't defend myself. i started to before, but didn't respond to whatever it was she said last time.

[Edited on July 7, 2008 at 12:06 AM. Reason : ]

7/7/2008 12:05:44 AM

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"i'm not even going to fucking "defend" myself. you're being a bitch just for the sake of being a bitch. i'm not concerned with impressing you or a single other person on tww...it's the internet for god's sake"

I'm not being a bitch, you're blowing this up into some huge thing that it's not.

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"oh, and i'm sure you've never said things on tww that "no one cares about""

I guess you missed the part where I said "'cause I'm sure nobody cares that any of us are."

In the end,

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"everyone has their own tastes"

and that's all I came in here to say. That nobody's list (not in this thread, not anywhere) is definitely what you should read to be "well-read."

[Edited on July 7, 2008 at 12:07 AM. Reason : .]

7/7/2008 12:05:54 AM

^um, that was the point of my comment

7/7/2008 12:06:27 AM

i know stillfuchias weakness


PM for details !

7/7/2008 12:06:42 AM

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"P M S"

7/7/2008 12:06:45 AM

back on topic plz.

Srsly.

7/7/2008 12:07:01 AM

haha, furshia always brings the drama

7/7/2008 12:07:52 AM

^ How does this even happen? I didn't do shit.

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"i know stillfuchias weakness PM for details !"

LOL

That's assuming someone on here will think you know anything.

[Edited on July 7, 2008 at 12:08 AM. Reason : .]

7/7/2008 12:08:37 AM

Surprise surprise, StillFuchsia posts in a thread, and it immediately becomes a bitchfest.

[Edited on July 7, 2008 at 12:09 AM. Reason : ^^ beat me to it]

7/7/2008 12:09:24 AM

Surprise surprise, trolls following me around!

7/7/2008 12:10:19 AM

i'm done with "arguing" after this...yes, i was irritated at that first comment you made about me trying to "impress" someone. i was posting in here because, yes, i am an english major, so this is of interest to me. i consider myself to have a lot left to read (more than i will ever be able to read), but i think that the things i have read fall into the category of "books that would make someone well read". i don't think i'm an expert, and i don't care about impressing anyone. it was simply a statement, nothing more.

7/7/2008 12:10:40 AM

^^ oh please. You're just like any other chubby girl. Call her a fatty and the drama ensues.

you know im right.

7/7/2008 12:11:08 AM

^and the crying then the eating

7/7/2008 12:12:47 AM

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"i was posting in here because, yes, i am an english major, so this is of interest to me."

I was just as interested in posting in the thread for the same reason.

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"but i think that the things i have read fall into the category of "books that would make someone well read""

and I thought that was silly, merely because there's no set list of things that would make a person well read, that's all

don't take it so personally

[Edited on July 7, 2008 at 12:14 AM. Reason : .]

7/7/2008 12:14:12 AM

I supposed that all depends on your meaning of "well read". To me, there are pieces of literature that are culturally and/or historically significant and I think that having read such books makes a person "culturally" well read (I also think that to be "culturally" well read, one should have read an array of books that are important in said culture - which could include books like those by Stephen King and Danielle Steel - I wasn't saying before that reading those authors makes one not well read, I was just saying that it does not necessarily mean that one is well read.)

I also believe in what Conrad said (which I quoted before): "My task is to make you hear, to make you feel - and, above all, to make you see. That is all, and it is everything." And I believe that such should be the task of any "great" piece of literature text. If a book speaks to a person in some way, whatever that is, then it can be a "'great' piece of literature text" to at least that one person.

The books I listed fall into one of those two categories to me.

I wasn't saying that there is a set list, I was listing the books that I feel make me well read (a list that will obviously be different for everyone), or that could make another person culturally well read.



[Edited on July 7, 2008 at 12:35 AM. Reason : wording]

7/7/2008 12:32:58 AM

lol... i saw THIS thread went 3 pages and knew exactly why without even opening it..

just saying...

7/7/2008 12:35:49 AM

again I really miss my old thread about the literary canon

it was a fucking good 'un

7/7/2008 10:00:49 AM

Ringworld by Larry Niven

Now that was a pretty chunky book. The author's writing style makes certain parts hard to understand sometimes, but overall, this book was great.

But you don't have to take my word for it.

7/7/2008 10:08:36 AM

7/7/2008 10:12:54 AM

The Secret Garden - Frances Hodgson Burnett
White Fang - Jack London
The Lion, the Witch, & the Wardrobe - C.S. Lewis
Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card (Hugo & Nebula Winner + Card is a G'boro native)
Bootlegger's Daughter - Margaret Maron (won 4 awards including the Agatha and the Edgar + Maron is a Johnston County native)

[Edited on July 7, 2008 at 11:32 AM. Reason : .]

7/7/2008 11:03:15 AM

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"Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card"

Ender's Game kept me interested, but the only problem I had with it was that I predicted that he wasn't really "practicing".

7/7/2008 11:19:13 AM

Kidnapped- Robert Louis Stevenson
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer- Mark Twain
Grendel- John Gardner

7/7/2008 11:19:28 AM

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"Ender's Game kept me interested, but the only problem I had with it was that I predicted that he wasn't really "practicing"."

Of the Ender series, I actually like Xenocide the best. The whole self-inflicted guilt thing gets a little extreme though.

7/7/2008 11:32:12 AM

A Brief History of Time- Hawking

I'm a big fan of Faulkner also.

7/7/2008 11:48:41 AM

A Briefer History of Time is pretty good, too. I had to read some parts more than once to see what he was saying.

7/7/2008 1:10:22 PM

I'm a sucker for the old heroic epics:
Illyad/Odyssey, Beowulf, Gilgamesh, Morte Darthur (Really, any collection of the full tales of Arthur, if you find Sir Thomas Mallory a bit dry), and Robert Graves' Gods, Heroes, and Men (a collection of the major Greek myths, including Hercules' full story, not just the trials, Jason and the Argonauts, and lots of other fantastic shit.)
The Poetic and Prose Eddas are also good reads, if you can handle the style. Major works of Norse mythology, covers most of the god myths, up through Sigurd (or Sigfried).

7/7/2008 1:27:25 PM

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"Ringworld by Larry Niven"

Yeah, this book is great if you like books that are mostly the characters walking (or flying) from A to B while engaging in lots of internal whining -- like Lord of the Rings!

And knowing about this book won't really help you out unless you hang out with nerds who have terrible tastes.

7/7/2008 5:37:09 PM

Cormac McCarthy - Blood Meridian or the Evening Redness in the West

must be read, takes a bit of will to get through it but its amazing

7/7/2008 5:46:27 PM