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"I think all this man vs woman stuff is funny with all of these metro - feminine piss poor excuses for men running around these days...."

7/14/2008 4:55:53 PM

I dunno, I'd live with someone before I marry them.
I don't think marriage should change anything or be a fix-all.
But then I'm the type of person who would want to try to fix things regardless and not just tuck tail and run like a bitch.
I also don't want a joint bank account.
hmm. maybe i'm just odd :/

7/14/2008 4:56:01 PM

NO joint finances unless we have been together for 20 years.

7/14/2008 4:58:15 PM

someone might have said this on page 2 but i got kinda bored with the whole debate BUT isn't there some statistic that says people who live together before marriage are more likely to get divorced? i thought i read that somewhere OR maybe someone told me and it was a lie. i just thought it sounded like the opposite of the way things should be. but i don't know. because i live alone and i am not married

7/14/2008 5:23:58 PM

yep there is

but in my opinion there's more to the stat than most people think about. compare the people who usually live together versus those who don't.. the ones that don't are usually better off financially and dont have a need to live together to save money and/or are pretty religious--obviously neither of those hurt when talking about a marriage lasting.

[Edited on July 14, 2008 at 5:26 PM. Reason : asdf]

7/14/2008 5:25:01 PM

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"people who live together before marriage are more likely to get divorced?"

i would question the hell out of that statistic

7/14/2008 5:26:28 PM

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"if you hadn't moved in together you wouldn't have had that issue..."

but on the flip side, she would have gotten away with it A LOT longer, and probably with more guys.

7/14/2008 5:27:51 PM

I don't use maps, but that's only because I shelled out the money for a nav system in my car.

Oh, and that whole list... 100% dead on accurate.

7/14/2008 5:33:22 PM

yea its a tough call, really. like how do you know when/if to move in or if its going to doom the relationship, etc.

i think what ^^^^ said is right. demographics probably play a huge role. like, i think i'm probably too immature right now to live with someone else. like i gotta figure my own life out first before i go getting all crazy and having boys babies and dogs in my personal space

[Edited on July 14, 2008 at 5:34 PM. Reason : ^]

[Edited on July 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM. Reason : so i mean like age, etc probably play a role in the statistic]

7/14/2008 5:34:23 PM

What's wrong with dogs?

7/14/2008 5:35:52 PM

i mean a dog is kind of the step below a guy moving in with you its a similar commitment. 10-15 years and you have to actually do stuff with it. i have a cat. so i have some company but she mostly just takes care of herself

but i was mostly referring to the type of coupley investments people make when they move in together. like getting a dog.

7/14/2008 5:39:24 PM

i like it that most of the times the ones on TWW giving the marriage advice are the ones not married

what else are you an expert on that you haven't done?

7/14/2008 5:45:24 PM

hopefully you weren't referring to my post. because i didn't give anyone advice. just commented on some statistic i'd heard about. and then i commented about myself.

7/14/2008 5:48:49 PM

saying she isn't an expert because she hasn't done it is borderline retarded.. her knowing enough about it to know it's better she DOESN'T do it at this point is a lot better than most a lot of ppl

but i'm sure the 50% of marriages that end in divorce know soo much more

[Edited on July 14, 2008 at 5:50 PM. Reason : asdf]

7/14/2008 5:50:04 PM

^^ i wasn't referring to your post in particular

^ i'm not saying they are experts either - but they do know a lot more than people that "have an idea of what marriage is like because they've know people that are married"

people that are divorced probably have worse advice based on statistics - before they got married the first time they had a ~50% chance (depending on a lot of factors - but for most college grads the % is higher) - after you've been married statistics say that your 2nd marriage is more likely to fail than the first which could mean that they probably have worse advice

7/14/2008 5:56:01 PM

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"the problem was i wanted my space, and she also wanted my space."

i loled

and i agree with the list.

[Edited on July 14, 2008 at 6:04 PM. Reason : .]

7/14/2008 6:04:34 PM

Ironically enough, she also wanted MySpace.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

7/14/2008 6:11:59 PM

bttt

7/15/2008 9:51:10 AM

I agree with the first post entirely.

Our sex needs some damn brains.

7/15/2008 11:09:10 AM

^ yall just stop wanting to live out a fantasy would solve the problem

7/15/2008 12:36:05 PM

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"look yall, the bottom line is that women live in fantasy worlds, ie want gay friends, and live like a reality show"

my dad tells my mom this all the time. it is so true. girls expect their lives to be a romantic comedy.

other than sexually, the amount you please a girl=the amount you act like a bitch and do retarded shit like watch the notebook blah blah fuckidy blah

7/15/2008 2:28:19 PM

i disagree. the amount I please a girl is directly proportional to the amount of BJs I get.

7/15/2008 3:11:46 PM

touche

7/15/2008 3:12:12 PM

every one of those is true

7/15/2008 4:18:37 PM

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"wow, every girl i have dated hit all 13. good shit "

7/15/2008 4:28:35 PM

hey Stewby

check out my post in this thread....about halfway through....


message_topic.aspx?topic=532767&page=1#11778773

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 4:32 PM. Reason : hahaha]

7/15/2008 4:31:39 PM

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"Enjoys Cat Calls: First of all, most dudes don’t call out to girls on the street; we check out your ass and overflowing push-up bra from a respectable distance. But women don’t just (secretly, deep down) enjoy getting cat calls thrown their way, they expect it. Sure, some dude might go over the line now and then, and that never feels nice. But if nobody stares and nobody says a single lewd comment, she feels less sexy, like there’s something wrong with her that day, or at least with what she’s wearing. Guys, don’t take this as an invitation to hit on every stranger you see walking down the street. But ladies, stop telling us you don’t like it."

this is not completely true.

maybe girls with horrible, horrible self-esteem enjoy being whistled at by stout mexicans or creepy men old enough to be their grandfather, but i don't.

7/15/2008 4:32:59 PM

what about hot or average guys though?

7/15/2008 4:34:46 PM

and yet we still love them so much.


fucked up world

7/15/2008 4:38:37 PM

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"But unless you want to start telling us what a gigantic d*ck we have every time we see you, give us a break if we don’t notice what you’re wearing from time to time. "

Check and check.

7/15/2008 5:23:20 PM

wow, those are spot on

7/15/2008 6:22:19 PM

so much bitterness.

7/15/2008 11:15:16 PM

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"the amount you please a girl=the amount you act like a bitch and do retarded shit like watch the notebook blah blah fuckidy blah"

If I wanted someone who acted like a bitch, I'd date a woman.

BF watching sex & the city with me = DO NOT WANT

7/15/2008 11:17:42 PM

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"this is not completely true. maybe girls with horrible, horrible self-esteem enjoy being whistled at by stout mexicans or creepy men old enough to be their grandfather, but i don't."

Then why wear reveling clothing (push bras, heels, miniskirts) out in public if you don't want the attention?

7/15/2008 11:18:09 PM

maybe they like knowing they look good? i'm sure some women want attention but there's good attention and bad attention. like...a cat call might not be the greatest form of attention but maybe they're looking for something else. like a guy to approach them and start up a convo or whatever. i dunno??

this comment sketches me because its almost ALMOST like saying that girls who wear sketchy clothing deserve like what they get. whether its cat calls, having men make passes at them or touch them while their out, etc, etc, etc,

7/15/2008 11:27:16 PM

if you dress like a whore you get treated like a whore. You can dress respectable and still look good is all i'm saying. Refer to Dave chappelle's skit about him being in a cop uniform if you need any more info.

7/15/2008 11:29:54 PM

told the broads at work i'm like "look...i'm sorry...i just feel all attractive women are lying to me"


they were like "omg why!?!?" and i'm like "cause the only reason most attractive women get anywhere is cause they are hot...some nerdy guy could do 15% more work than them but they are attractive...i feel like they are so use to getting their way since they are attractive they lie to get their way"


after that they kinda changed the subject

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 11:31 PM. Reason : i cant remember exactly what i said but thats close]

7/15/2008 11:30:11 PM

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"if you dress like a whore you get treated like a whore. "

good statement. so all high heels revealing bras and mini skirts are whorish? and if people choose to wear a certain outfit it shouldn't automatically permit other people to degrade them. hope you don't ever assault someone because these arguments about clothing don't really fly anymore

7/15/2008 11:32:40 PM

^ he would be the same type of person that says "if you dress like that, you deserve to be raped"

7/15/2008 11:33:44 PM

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"other than sexually, the amount you please a girl=the amount you act like a bitch and do retarded shit like watch the notebook blah blah fuckidy blah "

um, no.
If I don't want to hang out with a bunch of cackling, idiotic biddies spewing out pointless drivel, why would I want the same in a guy? Just leave it at "sexually" and then go from there

7/15/2008 11:34:54 PM

sometimes i think some chicks like "want" to be a whore but like they only want a be a whore for one person...those girls are the shit

7/15/2008 11:35:07 PM

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"Refer to Dave chappelle's skit about him being in a cop uniform if you need any more info."

But in that skit he makes it clear that women do not deserve to be treated like whores just for dressing in a certain way, he just wants women to know that it's confusing if they're wearing "a whore's uniform"

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 11:37 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2008 11:36:03 PM

So if i dress like a cop and someone comes up to me screaming about someone getting murdered they shouldn't get pissed at me when i tell them i'm not a cop? And yes high heels revealing bras and mini skirts do tend to be whorish it depends on how much you add on to it. Like if you wear all 3 together.

And no they don't deserve to get raped but come on dress with some respect for yourself.

7/15/2008 11:36:17 PM

7/15/2008 11:36:19 PM

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"Uses Sex To Manipulate Men: If she’s looking extra hot and/or acting particularly friendly, beware: she is probably going to ask you to do something you don’t want to do. (This is a perfectly acceptable trade-off in a woman’s mind.) She knows you like sex, and she’s got the tools to use that desire against you–or at least to get what she wants. But sex is what we want, so don’t get us wrong on this one: We want you to use sex to manipulate us. It’s the best form of manipulation possible. But don’t think we don’t know what you’re up to. "

this the number one advantage of being a woman

7/15/2008 11:40:11 PM

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"um, no. If I don't want to hang out with a bunch of cackling, idiotic biddies spewing out pointless drivel, why would I want the same in a guy? Just leave it at "sexually" and then go from there "

Understood. While it was a pretty big generalization, what I meant to say was that I've found in my own experiences and observing friends that girls seem to get pleasure out of making you do shit they know you don't want to do.. possibly to test if you think they're worth it or not? I know its a give and take, etc. but I'm not usually willing to put up with it. Selfish I know

LivinProof78- maybe im just being dense but what was I supposed to draw from that?

[Edited on July 16, 2008 at 8:40 AM. Reason : ..]

7/16/2008 8:36:20 AM

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"time is the only friend you have in something like this...you can't make it happen...you also can't sit around waiting for it to happen...you might miss out on something even betterl...real life isn't like "The Notebook"....if it was women would never have movies to watch...."

nothing other than i just fought it was funny that we basically posted the same thing....even though the threads were completely unrelated

7/16/2008 10:22:42 AM

you know to be perfectly honest i'm getting tired of gender roles...i mean like women are supposed to cook but men do it better? thats just one example that pops in my head...

7/16/2008 10:26:55 AM

no shit...

i definitely want a man that can/will cook better than me


i'll keep the house and laundry clean....i'll even do the yard work....



i just want a man to cook and kill spiders for me

7/16/2008 10:29:04 AM

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"i just want a man to cook and kill spiders for me"

I can cook just fine...but oh how spiders make me cry!

7/16/2008 10:37:24 AM