One was 500 years ago. The Indians couldn't fight of John. Now, it's 2009. We should be able to fight off Juan.

10/21/2009 2:18:58 PM

didn't say they were, but you can still argue them separately. and you act like these settlers were the only ones to ever do this. different time my friend. people would fight others over land in these days... and killed them... you know, I can vaguely remember other countries still doing this in the 1900's. maybe germany? china? japan? iraq?

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 2:20 PM. Reason : .]

10/21/2009 2:19:36 PM

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"^^i see that you skipped over the post where i utterly destroyed the basis of your argument. carry on then and have a good day, xenophobe"

There is nothing to destroy. My dad and all of the other Americans were let go by his former boss because they chose to replace quality with cheap labor that does a poor job.

10/21/2009 2:22:24 PM

Quote :

"people would fight others over land in these days... and killed them... you know, I can vaguely remember other countries still doing this in the 1900's. maybe germany? china? japan? iraq?"

Israel comes to mind. Got a point yet? Or was illegal immigration only okay when whites did it violently?

"It was a different time, my friend" == European/American exceptionalism

10/21/2009 2:25:34 PM

America is pretty exceptional :smug:

10/21/2009 2:26:08 PM

who said I agree with the whole isreal deal?

10/21/2009 2:26:17 PM

FUCK ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

*lives in a country established by violent illegal immigration*

10/21/2009 2:27:23 PM

historically, most immigrations were illegal, with a significant amount of those being violent.

It's just how we do.

We as humans.

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 2:29 PM. Reason : clarity]

10/21/2009 2:29:18 PM

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"*lives in a country established by violent illegal immigration*"

so native americans had immigration laws?

10/21/2009 2:30:19 PM

^^ So let me get this straight. Since the Israelis immigrated illegally (per you), and that's apparently wrong (per you) we should let Mexicans do it illegally?

Gotcha.

10/21/2009 2:30:40 PM

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"is this about immigration or the wrongs against native americans? pick your fight"

This thread is actually about a Halloween Costume.



Now I just need to find that original post sign with the turning right arrow.

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 2:31 PM. Reason : .]

10/21/2009 2:31:02 PM

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"so native americans had immigration laws?"

*goes to an uncharted tribe in the amazon and kicks them off their land, slaughtering them*

lols guys just doing perfectly legal shit here. no worries

10/21/2009 2:31:26 PM

Immoral, yes. Illegal, no.

10/21/2009 2:32:03 PM

well, it wasn't really illegal AT THE TIME. again, different time, different rules. and nothing we can do will change that.

10/21/2009 2:32:27 PM

So the issue here is actually STRICTLY the legal status of the actions? LOL Bullshit.

10/21/2009 2:33:41 PM

no, the issue here is illegal immigration

10/21/2009 2:34:21 PM

the issue is that people are inherently racist and xenophobic and are genuinely scared because of it

10/21/2009 2:35:38 PM

http://www.buycostumes.com/pages/checkout/basket.aspx?mode=Add

10/21/2009 2:35:46 PM

Yes and I'm sure that purely the illegality of it (a technical issue) is strictly what bothers you

10/21/2009 2:35:56 PM

I'm going to move to 1 square mile of Mexico, put up a flag and then shoot anybody that walks into my perimeter.

10/21/2009 2:36:37 PM

Please do, can't wait to see your burial

10/21/2009 2:36:56 PM

^^^^^again, personal attacks. you're first and only true argument
^again, your assumptions and obvious attempts to dodge issues is you're first and only true argument

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 2:37 PM. Reason : ^^]

10/21/2009 2:37:23 PM

If anybody wants the costume, it's right there. 40 bucks.

10/21/2009 2:38:08 PM

ohh it wasn't to me.

nevermind.




btw, Israel never immigrated illegally. It was theirs to begin with.

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 2:39 PM. Reason : can o' worms.]

10/21/2009 2:38:21 PM

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"the issue is that people are inherently racist and xenophobic and are genuinely scared because of it"

do you have a valid argument that doesn't include the words 'racist' and 'xenophobic'?

10/21/2009 2:38:42 PM

the only people who care at all about illegal immigration are racists and those who are used to being overpayed for their work. (maybe the same group?). If the fed weren't so full of retards they'd just legalize them all.

10/21/2009 2:38:45 PM

if they weren't pussies, they'd put a bullet in their heads for breaking the law.


SEE WHAT I DID THERE.

10/21/2009 2:39:35 PM

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"btw, Israel never immigrated illegally. It was theirs to begin with."

lmao go go bible *farts*


It's pretty funny. It's cool to immigrate into a region so long as there aren't Western-style codified laws "preventing" people from doing so. Brilliant!

10/21/2009 2:40:38 PM

Well who's laws you gonna break then, mandingo?

10/21/2009 2:41:31 PM

Don't hate me cause I'm zionist

10/21/2009 2:42:48 PM

(1) Unjust laws SHOULD be broken.
(2) Violating rules in an area could easily be deemed "illegal" even if they don't have a Western judicial system. Taking somebody's land and killing them is obviously under this umbrella.

Either way LOL at how it was perfectly okay for whites to roll into North America and take literally everything, but that suddenly it's not okay for descendants of natives to move freely along this land mass because we've established arbitrary laws keeping them from doing so.

Quote :

"Don't hate me cause I'm zionist"

I mean it's cool if you're alright being a bottom feeding piece of shit, intellectually

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 2:44 PM. Reason : .]

10/21/2009 2:43:45 PM

welp, if the shit always comes to the surface

then i can't feed on the bottom.

10/21/2009 2:45:03 PM

no one said it was right. we/I just stated what happened and the facts. I even admitted that the manner in which this country came to be was wrong.

10/21/2009 2:45:21 PM

Descendants of natives? I thought Mexicans were a cross between Spaniards and Negroes...

10/21/2009 2:46:28 PM

No, those are Lumbees.

10/21/2009 2:47:08 PM

Oh... I'm getting my pseudo-indians confused again.

10/21/2009 2:47:32 PM

*whites do shit*

Oh man what can be done? Plus it was technically legal

*brown skinned people do a helpful version of what whites did*

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT STAY OFF MY LAND

10/21/2009 2:48:14 PM

NATIVE AMERICANS, PLEASE.

10/21/2009 2:48:28 PM

Quote :

"well, it wasn't really illegal AT THE TIME. again, different time, different rules. and nothing we can do will change that."

Well said. Times were different back then. It was pre-Great Society when all of those government socal programs were created.

10/21/2009 2:48:46 PM

It boils down to who's got the guns man.

Superior firepower, superior land. Accept it.

Oh and unintentional smallpox outbreaks work too.

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 2:49 PM. Reason : *]

10/21/2009 2:49:10 PM

^ yeah except our american society needs a limited rights class of people to shit on

10/21/2009 2:50:21 PM

I thought the blacks filled that role.

My whole world is turning upside down!

10/21/2009 2:50:53 PM

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"It boils down to who's got the guns man. Superior firepower, superior land. Accept it. Oh and unintentional smallpox outbreaks work too."

Well so long as you accept and admit that you're a shit head without a trace of principles, then fine

10/21/2009 2:52:32 PM

Might makes right.

Winners write the history books.

Cliche

Cliche

Cliche

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 2:54 PM. Reason : *]

10/21/2009 2:53:26 PM

10/21/2009 4:03:51 PM

lol

10/21/2009 4:21:08 PM

^Well it's the truth.

10/21/2009 4:31:03 PM

oh i'm so sorry let's get the thread back on track to racism and blind hatred of foreigners

10/21/2009 4:46:31 PM

This thread is about how latino groups hate extra terrestrials.

What did extra terrestrials ever do to deserve this hate they are getting from latinos?

10/21/2009 4:55:27 PM

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" so, we should ignore our laws and make every illegal alien a U.S. citizen? Besides this being nearly impossible, it opens a door you don't want opened."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

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"The Act also granted a path towards legalization to certain agricultural seasonal workers and immigrants who had been continuously and illegally present in the United States since January 1, 1982"

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"It was estimated that over 2.7 million individuals were given a path to legal status from the 1983 IRCA"

not impossible. been done. will happen again. its 2009 homie, read a book and get with the times

10/21/2009 5:01:01 PM