^^ nahhh

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"I mean, you're good looking enough that you probably wouldn't have any boner-inducing problems, but if some reason he didn't want to do you, I don't think there are many guys you'd be able to physically force yourself upon, haha. "

hehe. well what if i tricked him into letting me tie him up?!? that is what i was thinking. but good call on drugging him

12/27/2009 9:04:38 PM

you can do whatever you want to me, baby. as long as you leave my ass alone and don't mutilate me or stomp on my balls

12/27/2009 9:08:46 PM

Maybe this is why I havent seen evan on in a while

12/27/2009 9:09:56 PM

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"1) wouldn't that be talking about her sexual history? 2) She doesn't even have to have accused 150 men of rape, or even several of them. The initial defense is "hey, I met her at this bar, and we had consensual sex." The supporting evidence is "every night for the past three years, she has gone to this bar and had consensual sex with a guy she met there." Absolutely relevant. And it would be immoral to say that this guy could not prevent that defense."

1) yes, but this is where you get into weighing whether or not the evidence is relevant and/or overly prejudicial

2) agree to disagree on 2 points. uno) i still don't think it is relevant (in the legal sense). if a rape happened or a rape didn't happen it did or didn't in the certain instance in question you should be looking at the evidence and facts surrounding THAT SPECIFIC instance (in other cases in certain instances you also can't use prior acts) 2) though law and morality overlap, i don't think that law (or the courts) should be in the business of dictating morality - but that is an entirely different topic all together

seriously. we can disagree. lots of people disagree over this topic. i'm just not changing my opinion

12/27/2009 9:10:56 PM

12/27/2009 9:16:23 PM

the top of page 2 made me not care about reading the rest of this thread...what are you guys even arguing about still??

[Edited on December 27, 2009 at 9:16 PM. Reason : f]

12/27/2009 9:16:28 PM

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"if a rape happened or a rape didn't happen it did or didn't in the certain instance in question you should be looking at the evidence and facts surrounding THAT SPECIFIC instance (in other cases in certain instances you also can't use prior acts)"

I can understand that, but at the very least, you must agree that in this case it is about more than just "digging up dirt." I would also wager to say that in the other cases, it is the prosecution saying that the accused has done the act before, as opposed to the defense providing background to support their defense.

don't get me wrong, I don't agree with someone coming in and saying "she's a slut," but bringing up her sexual history is not necessarily the same as doing that. That's the distinction that I draw. At the point someone starts saying "she's a slut," I'd be hard-pressed to support that, and I would hope that the judge would step in and put a stop to it.

I think we agree in principle, but not in the particulars. I would have no problem with allowing a judge to put a stop to it when it's clearly not relevant. I do have a problem with outright disallowing it or requiring the judge to allow it.

12/27/2009 9:20:50 PM

I think that if rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it.

12/27/2009 9:47:38 PM

You want rape in a tunnel?

YOU GOT IT


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12/27/2009 9:52:30 PM

I love how my one question sparked this huge heated debate.

12/27/2009 9:53:45 PM

No worries folks. I've got a halon extinguisher (20lbs) if this "heated" discussion gets too out of control.

12/28/2009 5:06:14 AM

So hey! Dumb thread. Two things real quick, though:

Mr. Joshua said:

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"So on that night it would be completely legal to shoot the artist to death upon exiting the tunnel. I may attend."

If you're insinuating that you'd be interested in shooting someone to death, and all that's stopping you is the question of legality, you probably don't have it in you to murder someone in a premeditated manner.

That's good!

theDuke866 said:

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"they need to get a group of about 3 moderately sized homos (not big ones...it would be difficult--and unnecessary--to get them into all the rape room) with strong martial arts backgrounds. Once he attacked one of them, they could all beat the bejeezus out of him and gang rape him over and over until they just couldn't do it anymore. That would probably spell the end of this sick fuck's Rape Tunnel."

You put an awful lot of thought into that scenario. Like, you could have just said, "They need to get a group of martial artists to beat him up." But you didn't. You specified a number of homosexuals of a certain size, size dictated by the logistics you carefully considered, then you played out a little narrative. He'll attack one, you thought, then they can beat him.

And you didn't stop there. They can gang rape him. Just once? No! Over and over, until they just can't do it anymore.

You are fucking gay as hell.

12/28/2009 8:09:11 AM

is anyone a trained fighter? i mean, that would be a fun fight probably. some dude trying to get in your gutz would probably make you fight pretty hard

12/28/2009 8:33:44 AM

Ok, I want to join the law conversation:

I'm with Aaron, the point is not the number of occurrences of promiscuity per se but that it is a pattern of behavior (and therefore has to happen enough times and frequently enough to be legitimately called a pattern of behavior, but again the specific number of times is irrelevant).

I find that completely relevant in a situation where, as it seems to me Aaron and khcadwal are arguing, the trial boils down to he-said-she-said testimony where (you must agree) a jury is originally going to be sympathetic with the (alleged) victim.

Of course, when rape occurs there should be other evidence. So, hopefully the catch-alls in the rape shield laws allow a judge to determine whether or not it needs to be admissible in any given trial, but in the he-said-she-said scenario the pattern of behavior can be a legitimate out in a situation where the defendant obviously starts the trial at a disadvantage. It's a completely legitimate "reasonable doubt" generator, all other things given.

12/28/2009 10:09:01 AM

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"the trial boils down to he-said-she-said testimony where (you must agree) a jury is originally going to be sympathetic with the (alleged) victim. "

that is my problem with rape cases, in a nut shell. too much burden is put on the defendant in this situation.


Also, if i were on a jury and someone were suing that artist for rape based on the alleged victim walking into the tunnel I would not convict the man. If the victim willingly walked into the tunnel then they have to acknowledge a degree of responsibility since they were accepting of a degree of evident risk.

12/28/2009 10:34:51 AM

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"You are fucking gay as hell."

That is not an insult.

12/28/2009 10:36:09 AM

I didn't mean it as one! It's a diagnosis.

12/28/2009 10:38:55 AM

I know, I was just explaining to the audience. However,

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"It's a diagnosis."

Gay is not a sickness.

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 10:41 AM. Reason : s]

12/28/2009 10:40:05 AM

how self-centered am i

12/28/2009 10:41:07 AM

i think this debate is also largely drawn down gender lines

since it is usually male defendant and female "victim"

so males sympathize with the male and females sympathize with the female

12/28/2009 11:27:58 AM

I think males sympathize with the victim and females sympathize with the female.

12/28/2009 11:30:35 AM

on a jury i guess

but not itt

12/28/2009 11:32:18 AM

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"Like, you could have just said, "They need to get a group of martial artists to beat him up." But you didn't."

haha, but consider who we're dealing with here...I'm not convinced in the least that a couple of MMA fightesr crawling in there and smacking him around would really deter him from continuing in this endeavor. I mean, this isn't your run of the mill pervert...he sounds pretty dedicated, and a special breed of crazy.

However, I'm pretty sure that 3 homoninjas roughing him up, then treating him like a pincushion for a few hours would do the trick. I mean, once they got him all tied up and got tired of doing their thing, they could get on their cell phones and call all of their less physically capable brethren to stop by and do stuff that would make a Japanese porn producer's stomach turn.

If that didn't work, then I guess we'd just have to shoot him, because federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison probably wouldn't do much good, either.

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM. Reason : ^^Good way of putting it. i couldn't come up with a succinct way to say it, so i said "screw it".]

12/28/2009 11:38:51 AM

i don't think ^^ sees what ^^^ did there.

12/28/2009 11:46:57 AM

Im a big, fat, hairy dude.

I would actually love to walk in that tunnel, if only to have him go "Oh hellll no, get out!".

12/28/2009 11:49:16 AM

my guess is that he plans to club you in the head, or gas you, or something crazy...and I don't think this crazy bastard would be put off by you being big, fat, and hairy.

12/28/2009 11:50:44 AM

i'm still pretty confident that i am mentally strong enough to trick a man into letting me tie them up

not physically strong enough, duh. but i'm manipulative

^^^^ i see, i chose to ignore it fools. wahhh the male is the victim!

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM. Reason : .]

12/28/2009 11:52:37 AM

Haha "mentally strong enough"

Girl: "Let me tie you up. You may get sex"

Me: "OK"

12/28/2009 11:54:13 AM

umm, you think you could trick a man into letting you tie him up if he didn't want to have sex with you to begin with? I think that's pretty unlikely.

Plus, how confident are you that you could tie him up well enough that he wouldn't be able to free himself, or at least free himself enough to bust your head?

12/28/2009 11:55:28 AM

hahaha i dunno

handcuffs!

12/28/2009 11:57:03 AM

What I would like to see is a bull queer in the shape of an NFL Linebacker go in there and turn the tables

I'm talking 6'3" 260

This guy is basically setting himself up for a reverse-rape scenario by openly stating his intentions

Classic mistake

12/28/2009 12:01:34 PM

i dont think its rape if you go in their knowing what you're going to get...


its just extreme bondage.... ( dont know if this is the proper sex term )...

12/28/2009 12:06:52 PM

^^^ but even then, you wouldn't be able to cuff a man who was physically resisting you, so you'd still have the problem of only being able to do it to a man who intended to sleep with you, which is hardly rape!

they would be tougher to get out of than ropes (although, by the way, handcuff locks are pretty easy to pick, but you wouldn't likely have anything handy to do it with in, say, a bed, and once all 4 limbs were restrained, you'd be screwed unless you could break the bed).

^^ See, I think he's probably accounted for that, or at the very least, accounted for the possibility of a bad motherfucker coming through the door. He even said that he has some tricks up his sleeve.

That's why I say you need several...it would be awfully tough to overwhelm all of them simultaneously.

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"Classic mistake "

haha, yeah that one will get you every time!

[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM. Reason : ]

12/28/2009 12:07:27 PM

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"^^ but even then, you wouldn't be able to cuff a man who was physically resisting you, so you'd still have the problem of only being able to do it to a man who intended to sleep with you, which is hardly rape! "

dammit!

what if i bit him really hard hahaha

12/28/2009 12:07:57 PM

12/28/2009 12:08:26 PM

^^ I dont know, let's find out. I'm in Raleigh through this evening.

12/28/2009 12:09:41 PM

Just send some whore down the tunnel with a visible herpes outbreak and see if he sticks to this.

12/28/2009 12:23:34 PM

Performance art usually gives us lame, stupid shit like this. But sometimes it gives us chess boxing. So I don't know how I feel about it.

12/28/2009 12:42:29 PM

Based on the internet, I would say that if he does this, a bunch of older fat men will show up very excited, and some roided out punk types who plan to kick his ass.

12/28/2009 12:43:06 PM

Im sure he is going to tase people, etc..

He should sell webcam access to the interior room. He is missing a great opportunity there.

12/28/2009 12:46:47 PM

what if someone tricked a foreigner or a person who didn't know how to read into going up through there... then she couldn't be held even slightly culpable.

12/28/2009 1:04:00 PM

Fake

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2009/09/artlurker_explains_rape_tunnel.php

12/28/2009 9:20:13 PM

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"the stupid argument people give for men not being able to be raped by women"

so how's things on the planet STAR TRAK

12/28/2009 10:01:12 PM

so f i went into the RAPE TUNNEL with a lead pipe and this guy tried to rape me

and i killed him

would i be in much trouble?

12/28/2009 10:43:09 PM

this guy must have had one heck of a dry spell to come up with this.

12/28/2009 11:01:37 PM

If it were true, and there's only one exit, just be the first in line while wearing a trench coat. Reveal molotovs at the entrance and let him have the choice of suffering severe burns or die.

12/28/2009 11:11:22 PM

rofl at FroshKiller nailing that right on the head. Open and shut. God damn. lol

Just thought I'd duck into the thread to mention that the second I opened it, I thought:

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"I'm really hungry. I could go make a peanut butter sandwich... that'd take care of me being hungry. Oh wow. Another rape thread. I'm almost positive aaronburro is going to post some unbelievably obtuse, retarded shit that amounts to nothing more than support of rape. BUT WAIT. MAKE THE SANDWICH FIRST, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE WAY THIS GOES. THE PATH OF HIS STUPIDITY IS LONG, ARDUOUS, AND NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART OR HUNGRY. "

Trip report: I'm pretty satisfied with my decision to make the sandwich before reading this thread. Also LOL at the fact that my prediction was correct. It also turns out that I actually managed to smoke enough pot tonight to see the method to aaronburro's stupidity and that's a lols moment for me.

Welp, peace.

12/29/2009 1:46:28 AM

cool story bro

12/29/2009 1:51:59 AM

who the fuck are you son i will roll out my posting credentials in a heartbeat

12/29/2009 1:52:47 AM

Set em up

Bc nobody reads the 149th post.

12/29/2009 2:03:56 AM