is it technically illegal for two retards to fuck?

4/15/2010 5:14:38 PM

who would you prosecute?

4/15/2010 5:28:12 PM

i ain't reading all this lame arguing over downs/down's/etc

have any girls said yes?

4/15/2010 5:29:13 PM

No, it is not always illegal for the mentally handicapped to have sex. The laws differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. And, if I am not mistaken, even if a person is legally unable to consent, their guardian can consent for them. There are mentally handicapped individuals who do marry.

4/15/2010 5:42:33 PM

"I hereby give you permission to bang my retarded brother, on the stipulation that you refer to him as Captain America and don't touch his ears under any circumstances"

[Edited on April 15, 2010 at 5:46 PM. Reason : x]

4/15/2010 5:46:43 PM

"yes... you may fuck my retarded child... you have my blessings to bwn"

how non-PC would that be lol

4/15/2010 5:47:20 PM

you'd think there'd be a retard porn site out there somewhere

4/15/2010 5:51:03 PM

4/15/2010 5:51:47 PM

4/15/2010 5:52:33 PM

What if someone is mentally handicapped/disabled and wants to have sex? Is that still rape? Jesus people, give them a little credit. They still have consciousness, desires, and emotions.

4/15/2010 5:55:51 PM

If you're asking if I'd buy them a hooker, then yes. I doubt I'd fuck them myself, unless my husband hit his head and became "mentally challenged" then I might.

4/15/2010 5:59:26 PM

We're not talking bumping your head and being mentally challenged

We're talking Downs

You're either born with it, or you're not

4/15/2010 6:01:17 PM

corollary thread: TWW Guys...would you act like you have Down's to get a pityfuck?

[Edited on April 15, 2010 at 6:02 PM. Reason : fd]

4/15/2010 6:02:43 PM

Likewise, you can't fake Downs

The signs are obvious and would require extensive makeup to pull off

This isn't Sean Penn-level, this is full blown

4/15/2010 6:04:24 PM

if she's dumb enough to pityfuck someone with down's, she's probably too dumb to know the difference

4/15/2010 6:05:27 PM

You could pass for it yourself, my friend

4/15/2010 6:09:37 PM

4/15/2010 6:13:22 PM

you look like a retard

friend

4/15/2010 6:14:39 PM

DDK, post pics of your downy sister and I'll let you know if I would have sex with her.

4/15/2010 7:03:57 PM

Well Slave, it was a good thought, but today's entertaining thread was a rape-induced flop

4/15/2010 7:04:34 PM

This is a silly thread. No, I would never have sex with someone who couldn't consent, whether legally or consciously. I also would not have pity sex with anyone...that just isn't any fun.

People with Down's Syndrome, no matter how old, have the mindset and personality of children. It isn't pity sex, I would liken it to pedophilia.

4/15/2010 7:09:06 PM

thats not the point...

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

4/15/2010 7:09:56 PM

Quote :

"aha, so it's illegal to have sex with drunknloaded probably a good thing."

i read through the whole thread waiting on this joke. couldn't believe it got to the bottom of p2

4/15/2010 8:19:59 PM

It's a fascinating subject.

In Europe, it is not unusual for people with physical handicaps to go to Amsterdam to have sex with a sex worker. I watched a program where a paraplegic man from the UK went to Amsterdam once a year for sex. I even believe that the public health care system pays for it because they acknowledge the importance of a person's sexual well being.. I don't see how it would be much different for a mentally handicapped individual. Just because they're delayed or disabled developmentally doesn't mean that their sexuality is nonexistant. It's also important to remember that there is a broad spectrum of impairment -- some individuals only have mild intellectual deficits.

An example of a guardian approving of sexual behavior in a developmentally disabled individual:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Downs-Sydrome-Otto-And-Lucy-Baxter-In-Sex-Story---Mother-Appeals-For-Girlfriend-For-Adopted-Son/Article/200903315242926?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15242926_Downs_Sydrome%3A_Otto_And_Lucy_Baxter_In_Sex_Story_-_Mother_Appeals_For_Girlfriend_For_Adopted_Son_

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2323752.ece

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5829335/Downs-syndrome-virginity-appeal-man-turns-down-all-sex-offers.html

4/15/2010 9:00:00 PM

Bottombaby made excellent points. I'm a case manager for people with developmental disabilities. Specifically, I serve adults with a DD diagnosis who are also considered sexual offenders because they have either molested children or people who are lower functioning than themselves. Weird job, yeah, but it's incredibly interesting and it's job security because no one else wants to work with these folks.

So... that aside, the law goes like this: Once a person turns 18, developmentally disabled or not, they become their own guardian. If a person with DD consents to sex, is over 18, and does not have an appointed guardian, it's legit, the same as if you or I consent. Goes the same for them signing for themselves on legal documents, etc. However, if the person has a court-appointed guardian, they cannot consent for themselves - the guardian would have to make that decision. If the guardian is not present or does not consent to the act, it could be considered a sexual offense.

It's actually a really interesting topic because yes, people with developmental disabilities hit puberty normally and develop sexual urges normally. However, with little education for the topic in the DD world, many of these people don't understand what's happening and can get themselves into lots of trouble very quickly, sometimes without realizing it. Many of my clients are not predators the way you would consider your typical pedophile. My clients are adults who believe they are children, but have sexual urges. Recipe for disaster.

4/15/2010 9:24:38 PM

Pecky, thanks for the serious input.

I'm just a huge advocate of comprehensive sex education for all populations. It's just really important to me.

My son is also at high risk for having a borderline IQ because of his diagnosis of DiGeorge Syndrome. It's too soon to tell, but he's currently considered 'developmentally delayed.' Whether or not he catches up to his peers, I intend on acknowledging his sexuality and his sovereignty over his own body. It's important to me to raise a whole child with a healthy sex-positive view.

4/15/2010 9:49:13 PM

^^

I'll be honest, I learned something.

4/15/2010 9:51:09 PM

Pecky up in this bitch dropping knowledge bombs



The Troll Thread Express just got derailed

4/15/2010 9:53:21 PM

If dnl has been laid before then the answer is yes.

4/15/2010 9:57:49 PM

it took way too many posts for a DNL reference to be made

4/15/2010 10:04:03 PM

I would tittyfuck someone with downs

4/15/2010 10:04:31 PM

Knowledge bombs - that's awesome! I know it's a ridiculous thread, but the subject matter is really interesting to me. Bottombaby - so encouraging to hear a mama have an open and honest plan for education, DD or not. So many of my clients' parents were and are in denial and it's the reason some of my guys have to wear a tracking device and register their addresses in the offender registry for the rest of their lives. Not so much a problem with people who have a borderline dx as it is for the mild/moderate MR population, but everyone deserves a proper sex education modified for their intellectual functioning level.

4/15/2010 10:08:19 PM

Quote :

"you'd think there'd be a retard porn site out there somewhere"

There are.

Personally I wouldn't do it, but it's because I wouldn't pityfuck anyone. But I also doubt I would have regular sexual relations with a person who had Down's. Mainly because in order for me to be sexually attracted to someone I have to find them intellectually stimulating. I just don't see that happening with someone who has Down's Syndrome.

4/15/2010 10:21:22 PM

what if the person with downs is hung like a dragon?

4/15/2010 10:47:28 PM

Take more than that to sway me into bed

4/15/2010 11:41:31 PM