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wdprice3
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2009


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2017


What's going on here? I ain't no stinking libturd! I still think this quiz is missing some key issues that would pull me closer to the center of left / right.

[Edited on April 25, 2017 at 8:50 AM. Reason : .]

4/25/2017 8:48:44 AM

eleusis
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I think it's a shift in the scoring of the test, combined with problems in the phrasing of the questions given the current political climate. I think everyone with the exception of Neuservrrat is being underscored on authoritarian issues. With as intertwined as the US government is with private businesses, it's hard to separate domination by state institutions from domination by private businesses. This likely gets taken into account by most people with they answer questions, which is why most people fall along a line from the bottom left to the top right of the quiz.

4/25/2017 10:29:42 AM

NyM410
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That's definitely true.

I haven't looked at the questions but this is obviously an older test and social questions such as drug legalization probably fall somewhere along the bottom left a decade ago and now, aside from the weirdos, that is a pretty mainstream view.

4/25/2017 11:43:27 AM

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The other thread got me thinking about the left-right spectrum. Its a measure of the degree at which you think you should have to work for what you get. I hate that we have people who want to sit back while other people work.

(left)Believe in working for pay<--------------------------------------->Believe in other people working for you (right)

Being in the middle means you believe in a combination of working for money and using some of that money to steal other people's work.

Some of the people on the right end believe in actual slavery, while some believe in scamming while some believe in mugging. They are all forms of theft. Either way, you are living off the fruit of someone else's labour.

4/25/2017 7:38:24 PM

eleusis
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no one on the right side of that graph is arguing for universal income and handouts for all. You may want to rethink your interpretation of the graph.

4/25/2017 7:59:09 PM

tulsigabbard
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I didn't say anything about universal. They want people to work for their benefit only and certainly not the benefit of all because that would mean less for them and require them to do more actual work.

4/25/2017 8:37:37 PM

rwoody
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I don't know if there's a better thread or if there's a modern version of a political compass, but I really kind of just want to know one posters political identification

10/3/2025 12:51:35 PM

CaelNCSU
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^ Who's?

I have some code that tries to generate one based on post history. It did not get good results, so I didn't post it in my TSB hacking thread. I have some new ideas on how to do it, so could try to modify it instead of like, work on my actual job this afternoon.

[Edited on October 3, 2025 at 1:31 PM. Reason : a]

10/3/2025 1:31:05 PM

StTexan
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I am all for you disregarding your work this friday

[Edited on October 3, 2025 at 1:47 PM. Reason : In before the coz who is post]

10/3/2025 1:35:58 PM

CaelNCSU
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I used the statements found here: https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/political-courage-test/15723/donald-trump. Roy Cooper just had a quiz so formatted it into a statement of his support/denial of a particular issue. I imagine him and Walz since they talk state stuff got lumped away from the national politicians. Biden and Trump being together probably nixes this as a good political compass generator.

Caveat, I'm not filtering the statements for TWW users against the politician ones. This means lots of non political text gets garbled up into it skewing us out of the political dimension. I'll do another one if I have time that checks how similar it is to the average of the political statements.

Users and Politicians


Users


Politicians


[Edited on October 3, 2025 at 4:45 PM. Reason : StTexan added]

10/3/2025 4:43:23 PM

StTexan
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Qfred would be a good one to add, and tgl3. And treetwista. And moron. Not too many i can think of past those

[Edited on October 3, 2025 at 4:56 PM. Reason : So thats saying me and the coz are same politically?]

10/3/2025 4:55:30 PM

CaelNCSU
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Only a moron would leave out moron...

10/3/2025 5:05:39 PM

utowncha
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I am immediately suspicious when I see x and y scales changing with every new graph.

10/3/2025 5:22:38 PM

rwoody
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I'll admit I don't have a single clue what that chart is supposed to mean

10/3/2025 6:00:05 PM

CaelNCSU
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^ I take the statements made collectively, posts here, and turn it into a embedding. A simple way to think about an embedding is as meaning of the statement. The embedding is a list of numbers. You can think each dimension of the list of numbers of having a specific meaning roundness, gender, play/work, and left/right politics.

So 1, -1, 1, -1 would be (round, female, playing, left), like a blue hair reddit user lets say. In theory the meaning would be captured from a list of posts.

Intuitively it's like casting a shadow from a 3d object to 2d plane. It's doing that and finding the biggest shadow drawn (from the light casting the shadow). So in theory the similar shaped and sized shadows are similar meaning. So like TGLs shadow would be a trans reddit leftist.

10/3/2025 6:45:00 PM

rwoody
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Quote :
"round, female, playing, left"


What

Regardless, the groupings you show look like nonsense if they are politics based

10/3/2025 7:07:20 PM

The Coz
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I don't love that my shadow is that close to TGL, but with respect to your efforts and points for originality and work avoidance, the output is currently not a reliable indicator of anything.

How good is the model at detecting sarcasm in text? Specifically, when a person says something that is the exact opposite of what they mean with the true meaning only derived from context or knowledge of the user's post history.

Also,

Quote :
"WHO

IS

? . . ."

10/3/2025 7:12:43 PM

CaelNCSU
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^^ yeah my hope was a collection of political posts would capture political meaning as the most relevant, but with those embeddings that doesn’t seem to be what it is.

10/3/2025 7:25:21 PM

rwoody
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Thanks for trying

10/3/2025 7:51:14 PM

The Coz
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10/4/2025 11:30:47 AM

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