Golovko dont waste your breath


theyre worse than the rednecks that fight for their right to bear arms


which is kind of funny considering....

5/10/2010 3:23:05 PM

http://www.cato.org/raidmap/

If you're curious how often and to what extent something like this happens.

5/10/2010 3:24:00 PM

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"They found illegal drugs in his home. Opinions of a bunch of illegal drug using TWWers doesn't change anything."

How about the opinion of a braindead web developer?

5/10/2010 3:24:34 PM

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"Don't get me wrong, I would certainly prefer that these raids go down with no one/thing getting injured/killed. However, all of your solutions require an officer to not have his primary weapon in hand. This would be a tough sell for anyone going into a high threat situation. These teams maintain a tactical advantage through violence of action. They bank on the fact that their speed, sound, and threat of violence disorients the people in the house long enough to get them in custody."

I think the other eleven guys with semi-automatic rifles could adequately cover a designated animal control in full body armor.

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"Keep in mind that as a completely law abiding citizen, you will be killed should they accidentally enter your home in the middle of the night thus causing you to mistake them for robbers and react in kind. This is why they don't need to do these raids so readily. They are way too willing to do this shit in situations where it's completely unnecessary and overly risky for everyone involved."

Exactly, one of the biggest problems with some cops is this He Man complex. Recklessly putting yourself in potentially dangerous situations for no reason to show how awesome your training is and how big your balls are is a very stupid and pointless thing to do. Information is power. Being a meathead is not always the best course of action.

5/10/2010 3:26:19 PM

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"They found illegal drugs in his home. Opinions of a bunch of illegal drug using TWWers doesn't change anything."

In this particular instance, sure, they found a small amount of weed. This doesn't make your point that this kind of thing doesn't happen to people who don't use illegal drugs valid, however.

5/10/2010 3:26:41 PM

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" I think the other eleven guys with semi-automatic rifles could adequately cover a designated animal control in full body armor. "

i doubt 11 guys are all in one room, if some officer puts his gun down to reach for his pepper spray to spray my dog, boy thats my chance! im yokin em up

5/10/2010 3:30:48 PM

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"Dennis and Sandra Braswell May 13, 2007—NC Several officers from the Hendersonville Police Department accidentally served a warrant at the residence of Dennis and Sandra Braswell. The officers were confused and separated from the other officers assigned to the raid because they had to cross a yard and hop a fence to get to the back door of the actual target’s house. When they entered the house, they found a party with underage drinkers. When the police realized their mistake, they left the premises. The officers apologized to the owners of the home and called the parents of the underage partygoers to come pick them up. The officers also offered to pay for the damages to the home. The rest of the raiding party surrounded the correct house and arrested the intended suspect. Source: Jennie Jones Giles. "Police mistakenly raid wrong house," Blue Ridge Times-News, May 13, 2007."

5/10/2010 3:32:41 PM

that house had about four rooms and the dogs were in the kitchen that was openly ajoining the main room where all the SWAT guys were. Again, know the layout of the fucking house before you bust in the door with fingers on the trigger.

5/10/2010 3:34:28 PM

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"small amount of weed."

does not a police raid warrent

5/10/2010 3:36:23 PM

^^^thats a cool story

5/10/2010 3:37:11 PM

ok what'd I miss
BIG HURRY


its at five pages so who are the trolls and who are the negotiators?????

5/10/2010 3:37:19 PM

^x7

That statement gave me an idea! pepper spray attached to the gun if that makes any sense. That way, some guy wont have to walk in there with a can of pepper spray while his comrads have guns.

TheBullDoza is solving problems itt

LOL^...a seasoned veteran

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 3:39 PM. Reason : d]

5/10/2010 3:38:12 PM

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"In the end the victim pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor charge of possession of drug paraphernalia in exchange for dropping the charges of misdemeanor marijuana possession and second-degree child endangerment. Yes, you read that right: the police burst into this man's home, shooting weapons in his home and killing his dog with his seven-year-old sleeping in the next room and he's the one who was endangering his child by smoking pot in his own home."

lol...alot of work for a paraph charge

Wonder what would've happened had the kid been shot on accident instead of the other dog...charge the father with manslaughter

The legality as a guide to right and wrong crowd always entertains me

5/10/2010 3:38:20 PM

you missed a bunch of fascists slobbering all over police cock as usual

5/10/2010 3:38:37 PM

how will they know the layout of the house?

this isnt military recon, unless they felt the need to hire an undercover agent to stake the place out how the fuck are they gonna know the house had 4 rooms whatever whatever


youd be bitchin about the additional tax dollars they spend for a stakeout operation

^^i guess you want weed smoked in the presence of your child

I remember abotu a year ago we were making fun of this couple that got busted on camera sharin joints with their kid, the dude got the camera at a pawn shop and found the footage

thats cool right?!?!?

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 3:42 PM. Reason : f]

5/10/2010 3:39:44 PM

publicly available tax records show the number of rooms in a house and may even include a sketch of the layout

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 3:41 PM. Reason : c]

5/10/2010 3:41:32 PM

admittedly i did not know that

i wouldnt want that either. is that just automatic or is that something the homeowner has the option to report

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 3:42 PM. Reason : v]

5/10/2010 3:42:24 PM

^^^how can you be sure they were smoking with the child present? It could've been in a separate room.

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 3:42 PM. Reason : ...]

5/10/2010 3:42:36 PM

How about applying a pair of eyes to some binoculars and making some observations.

5/10/2010 3:42:47 PM

i was kinda creeped out when i saw the drawing of my old house on the internet

5/10/2010 3:42:57 PM

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"how will they know the layout of the house?"

Can't you look up basic things in the tax record? Don't blueprints have to be registered somewhere to be approved before a home is built, to make sure that it lives up to building codes?

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"this isnt military recon"

They're using military equipment, so they'd better treat it appropriately

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"youd be bitchin about the additional tax dollars they spend for a stakeout operation"

Nope. If you're going to break in, make sure you have information worth a fucking damn.

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"i guess you want weed smoked in the presence of your child"

Weed is for adults. Just like responsible drinkers, responsible smokers know there's a difference between things for kids and things for adults!!!!!

5/10/2010 3:43:20 PM

^^^^it could have been a lot of things thats why it is a charge and not an instant conviction

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"Weed is for adults. Just like responsible drinkers, responsible smokers know there's a difference between things for kids and things for adults!!!!!"

so what are you arguing ? adults that dont know that get charged with child endangerment.

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 3:44 PM. Reason : f]

5/10/2010 3:43:28 PM

The fat cop who had the "perp" sounded like a fucking retard:

Fat Cop: "What is your name?!?!?"
Perp: "I have the right to a lawyer!"
Fat Cop: "I have a right to know your name!!!"

That fucking cracked me up. What an idiot. Also...the sound of the dogs yelping was pretty bad. From a casual observation of something that we don't get a lot of detail of what actually went down (preparations from the raid and info they had, and actual video of the raid instead of a camera very far behind when the actual raid went down)....those cops looked poorly trained and that whole situation looked like a clusterfuck as it went down.

If you aren't prepared and can't properly pull-off a raid like that without killing one dog, injuring another, and only getting some drug paraphernalia charges out of it....THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO BE GOING THROUGH WITH THE FUCKING RAID.

5/10/2010 3:44:04 PM

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"I remember abotu a year ago we were making fun of this couple that got busted on camera sharin joints with their kid, the dude got the camera at a pawn shop and found the footage thats cool right?!?!?"

Absolutely not cool how fucking stupid are you, let's plumb the shallows

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 3:44 PM. Reason : .]

5/10/2010 3:44:05 PM

All this thread has done is reminded the world that McDanger is a jizz licking,hipster cuntface whos only method of debate is to insult the person, not the ideas.

5/10/2010 3:44:37 PM

mcdanger is losing sight of himself or something

he has no idea what hes tryna argue

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 3:46 PM. Reason : s]

5/10/2010 3:45:23 PM

hey look it's GGMon, a guy who's either a shitty troll or a shitty human being or (likely) both

5/10/2010 3:45:52 PM

McDanger used to be my hero

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 3:46 PM. Reason : d]

5/10/2010 3:45:55 PM

^^

5/10/2010 3:46:07 PM

Why not just send two cops over with a search warrant in the middle of the afternoon (presumably while the husband isn't home) and look around the place while the wife calmy sits on the couch with the kid?

I'd really like to know what kind of info they had to make them feel the need to have a paramilitary squad kick down their door in the middle of the night.

5/10/2010 3:47:42 PM

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"so what are you arguing ? adults that dont know that get charged with child endangerment."

Does owning a six pack of beer endanger your child? No? Then neither does having a stash of weed hidden out of sight and reach.

5/10/2010 3:48:28 PM

wait you thought GG

























Mon

















was a normal?

5/10/2010 3:48:30 PM

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"ey look it's GGMon, a guy who's either a shitty troll or a shitty human being or (likely) both"

proved my point

5/10/2010 3:48:57 PM

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"hey look it's GGMon, a guy who's either a shitty troll or a shitty human being or (likely) both"

fact.

5/10/2010 3:50:05 PM

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"i guess you want weed smoked in the presence of your child"

I bet you wouldn't want alot of perfectly legal activites to go on in front of your child either.

5/10/2010 3:50:51 PM

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"fact."

a man who knows his letters

5/10/2010 3:51:17 PM

WTF is wrong with some of the people in this thread?

Wrecklessly killing innocent animals just to charge someone with a misdemeanor for smoking a plant is just plain lunacy. I don't know how anyone could support this bullshit.

5/10/2010 3:53:18 PM

Don't you get it? HE COULD HAVE BEEN SELLING THE PLANT, MAN. HE *COULD* HAVE BEEN.

5/10/2010 3:54:14 PM

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"All this thread has done is reminded the world that McDanger is a jizz licking,hipster cuntface whos only method of debate is to insult the person, not the ideas."

5/10/2010 3:55:27 PM

just about every state and federal government agency is running a budget deficit and we're allocating needed resources to crack down on pot smokers....awesome.

5/10/2010 3:55:28 PM

I know it's mostly trolls, but at least a couple of you must actually think that everyone should obey every law at all times, no matter what. If you really believe that, you're either ignorant of history, intentionally evil/fascist, or just plain crazy. The fact is, many laws should simply be ignored. ...And don't come in here with some "we don't get to pick and choose which laws we obey blah blah," bullshit. Guess what? We do get pick which laws we obey -- it's called free will. If you think about it, the act itself should speak more loudly than whether it's illegal. If this story was about a child rapist's or murderer's dog getting killed, I doubt many people would come to their defense. You know why? Nearly everyone hates, for good reason, rapists and murderers -- they hurt people. But, the story is about someone with illegal drugs. Mean ole' nasty illegal drugs. The reason many people are coming to their defense is because many, if not most people don't mind illegal drugs or illegal drug users -- they only hurt themselves, and not generally. A lot of people think that some or all illegal drugs should be made legal. Again, think about it: Do you see crowds of protesters pushing for legalized rape or murder? Why not? And yet people protest for legalized drugs. You see, not all laws are the same -- some clearly are okay to break -- some would even say we're obligated to break these unjust laws. You cowards that hide behind the "rule of law" simplify everything to merely being illegal or not, and complete miss what everyone else can plainly see: Some laws should not exist, but as long as they do, people that break those laws shouldn't and can't simply be grouped together with real criminals that break other laws that have near unanimous support. [/words]

5/10/2010 4:12:49 PM

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"How about the opinion of a braindead web developer?"

Find us one and I *might* read what he has to say.

5/10/2010 4:25:43 PM

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"Does owning a six pack of beer endanger your child? No? Then neither does having a stash of weed hidden out of sight and reach."

and out of smell, surely

alcohol is not illegal to possess

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 4:35 PM. Reason : s]

5/10/2010 4:35:00 PM

the fact that an activity is legal creates a good will force field that protects you.

5/10/2010 4:40:10 PM

BHS, have you ever broken the law

i have

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 4:40 PM. Reason : s]

5/10/2010 4:40:16 PM

i have, i got caught speeding

and I suffered the consequences while being polite with the officer that was doing his job

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 4:53 PM. Reason : f]

5/10/2010 4:52:48 PM

i realize this is a ridiculous hypothetical, but bear with me for a second

would you have been upset if he had done something disrespectful toward you during that traffic stop?

or if he searched your car without probable cause of wrongdoing other than speeding?

5/10/2010 5:18:24 PM

Or shot your dog who was in the passenger seat and barking at him?

5/10/2010 5:19:15 PM

Son, I am disappoint.

I would be crying and suing all over the place, because when it comes to everybody else, fuck em

but if it happens to ME man hell naw

[Edited on May 10, 2010 at 5:21 PM. Reason : v]

5/10/2010 5:19:40 PM

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