I knew absolutely nothing about the day-to-day life in Israel for Palestinians

the book goes into great detail of the last 100 or so years up until 2012

11/15/2024 10:49:11 AM

on that point, i read Nur Masalha's book Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History earlier this year as well. the author definitely had some clear bias but the historical accounting itself was really interesting and helpful to understand the trajectory of the region, especially chapter 9+ as we got more into how the Ottoman Empire interacted with the region in the 19th century and how the various stakeholders in the region reacted as the Ottoman empire faded and collapsed.

like i've said multiple times, if there's something i'm missing on this topic, i genuinely do want to understand it. I have no interest in blockading myself in a fortress of my priors. A few years back I used to be much more on the pro-palestinian side. although frankly looking back I was pretty uninformed on the topic outside of the drip of current affairs over the last couple decades. I had tended to far more prefer to spend my time learning about the future (eg technology and science) rather than the past (fallen empires and religion).

after oct 7, I dug into the history a lot more. lots of books and documentaries and youtube and podcasts, but I really enjoyed just being able to engage my curiosity directly and ask chatgpt my questions as I explored the topic.

11/15/2024 10:49:41 AM

getting a little off topic but I suppose this is a continuation of my youtube channel recommendations from the last page. this channel also has a ton of great relevant content



[Edited on November 15, 2024 at 8:24 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2024 8:24:16 PM

Even the damn Who's are racist fuckes

12/12/2024 3:35:42 PM

12/21/2024 9:04:06 AM

^https://www.cnn.com/us/gmu-student-plot-israel-consulate-attack/index.html

12/21/2024 11:40:10 AM

https://twitter.com/BayanPalestine/status/1879586510745539009

1/15/2025 10:14:47 PM

Is that person a good representation of Palestinian people?

1/15/2025 10:25:17 PM

yes, but also of many Pro-Palestinian supporters and activists, as well as much of the Muslim world as a whole.

[Edited on January 15, 2025 at 10:50 PM. Reason : check the replies and quote tweets]

1/15/2025 10:49:00 PM

https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1881910789361324517

1/21/2025 11:00:12 PM

^
Thats disturbing but the wealthiest man in the world who’s the actual US president being a Hitler lover is far more concerning

1/21/2025 11:11:45 PM

conflating a flyer handed out at a college with what Elon did…..

man

1/21/2025 11:19:35 PM

no I think the actual jew murderers are worse than the imagined one

1/21/2025 11:22:49 PM

I think it's normal to be more aware of and concerned with things in your own backyard

1/21/2025 11:48:19 PM

Elon’s white supremacist activities have probably gotten more Jews attacked, than students at Columbia have. I can’t think of any Jews dying recently from either Columbia students or whites supremacists— so maybe theyre equal there

1/21/2025 11:48:43 PM

2/14/2025 4:18:40 PM

https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-florida-man-arrested-after-shooting-2-israelis-he-thought-were-palestinians/

2/17/2025 2:12:51 PM

^microcosmic

[Edited on February 17, 2025 at 3:06 PM. Reason : spelling]

2/17/2025 3:03:57 PM

https://youtube.com/shorts/ME6nBs40IFg

LOLOLOLOLOL you can't make this shit up.

American Zionist shoots at Israeli father and son Zionists thinking they are Palestinian... the son posts on Facebook saying it was an antisemitic attack (which it was, since the attacker targeted what he thought were Palestinians), God is with them, and ends with "Death to the Arabs", which apparently, is not antisemitism.

I wish all these Zionists will exterminate each other soon.


[Edited on February 18, 2025 at 12:36 AM. Reason : ^^ yeah]

2/18/2025 12:36:07 AM

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"I wish all these Zionists will exterminate each other soon."

What exactly are you trying to achieve here with this

2/18/2025 1:18:26 AM

^ you know being on this website achieves nothing by anybody, at all.

enjoy it for what it is. don't suddenly act like you are 30 or something.

here, i will say it again: zionists (and all other oppressors worldwide) should eliminate each other. OMFG HOW DARE YOU WISH THAT EVIL PEOPLE DISAPPEAR

2/18/2025 2:45:44 AM

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"you know being on this website achieves nothing by anybody, at al"

I obviously don't mean real world consequences, I mean in the context of the website.
But you're right, shouting into the void does have some validity - I do it all the time on here... so my bad on that one. or even irrespective of that, actually. so.... sorry

But if I were to say "hey I hate zionists and all oppressors and want them all to disappear", I would just be saying that I don't want anything to exist. "hey I hate all murderers and killers" "hey I hate war". the middle east is ironically the prime example of why this makes no sense to say, no matter who you fund and support, someone else comes out and does the same crap all over again
it's the same type of mentality that makes people say stuff like "why should I thank veterans for their service, it's not like they didn't get paid or do it as a job". yeah, we know... that's not the point

If you want it, do it. Hell, go and exterminate whoever you want, lead a genocide, fight a war, prevent a genocide. Fund Hamas, join Hamas, whatever... but even Hamas, or forget Hamas- whatever moderate authority is there isn't gonna be like "ohhh let all the oppressors disappear", they're gonna be like "yes we want to kill/remove these guys and we want to rule", and that isn't inherently bad, it's just... "inherent" to reality.
people who cry about it will be on the losing side no matter who's in power... their enemies or their friends, won't matter.

essentially, if you want to say something, just say "i want the zionists to be destroyed". there's no need for the "all oppressors all must eliminate each other" euphemism... just say it. "it's nothing personal"- employ the phrase. maximum productivity is when you make that what is indeed personal to you. what you're saying actually does have a use as some emotional appeal, but that would be among those who are with the cause... which leads us back to my initial reply

disclaimer: these are just my thoughts using your comment as a 'spark', I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. ignore the rambling

2/18/2025 5:05:33 AM

^, ok i didn't expect that, sir.

i haven't read it yet... will do so on the bus on my way home once i finish work.

2/18/2025 5:14:44 AM

"once I finish work"? wow It's like 5 in the morning, do you live in like Australia or China or something

2/18/2025 5:24:19 AM

lol. next tell him to "go back to where he came from". n00b

2/18/2025 8:25:58 PM

If he already lives somewhere else, how could I tell him to go back there? not your best

2/19/2025 2:56:54 AM

Close one!
https://twitter.com/kylietcheung/status/1906419412879413646

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"NYU canceled a speech by the former president of Doctors Without Borders because she was going to discuss the genocide in Gaza. A slide about the death toll in Gaza “could be perceived as antisemitic":"

https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/climate-of-fear-montreal-doctor-says-nyu-cancelled-her-presentation/

3/30/2025 5:08:01 PM

Institutions of higher education officially cucked.

3/30/2025 6:02:06 PM

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/09/g-s1-59149/immigrants-social-media-antisemitism-dhs?

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"U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services has announced it will begin screening immigrant's social media for evidence of antisemitic activity as grounds for denying immigration benefit requests. The screenings will affect people applying for permanent residence status, and foreigners affiliated with educational institutions. The policy will go into effect immediately."

4/9/2025 11:16:28 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/28/opinion/jewish-student-protesters-gaza.html

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"“over the last few years, mainstream American Jewish leaders… have done something extraordinary: They have effectively redefined what it means to be a Jew. To silence condemnation of Israel, they have equated support for the state with Jewishness itself.”"

4/28/2025 2:55:56 PM

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"everybody here still likes the atlantic right?"

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/05/anti-semitism-violence/682943/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/performative-intimacy-antisemitic-terror/683011/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/boulder-attack-anti-semitism/683012/

6/4/2025 1:05:28 PM

https://bsky.app/profile/nerdjpg.com/post/3lqu6znzqnk2m

Mamdani gave a great answer here

Every state should have equal rights. This might never be an actual achievable goal but should be something we strive for and openly state without seeming out of step.

6/5/2025 1:45:10 PM

He's talking about nations.

6/5/2025 8:10:16 PM

I think moron is aware of that?

6/5/2025 8:54:23 PM

^ correct

6/5/2025 9:03:08 PM

Oops!

6/6/2025 1:44:13 AM

https://twitter.com/IRIran_Military/status/1933514496464621727

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"Fight them until mischief ends and obedience remains for God. The Noble Quran (2:193)"

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"When will this madness end? When will these people realize they are doing a disservice to Islam. When will they realize that they will end up in the bottomest pits of hell, according to Islam. When will they all die off. This angers and saddens me."

6/13/2025 10:53:31 AM

Pretty cool artwork, though.

6/13/2025 11:58:31 AM

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" Zohran Mamdani and Brad Lander, the leading progressive candidates in the Democratic primary for mayor of New York City, will cross-endorse each other, creating a late-stage partnership designed to help one of them surpass Andrew Cuomo in ranked-choice balloting. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/13/nyregion/mamdani-lander-endorsement-nyc-mayor.html?smtyp=cur&smid=bsky-nytimes "

One guy is Muslim, one is Jewish

^ I accidentally zoomed out the page then I saw it

6/13/2025 12:44:58 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/opinion/antisemitism-jewish-hate.html

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"Antisemitism is sometimes described as “the oldest hate.” It dates at least to ancient Greece and Egypt, where Jews were mocked for their differences and scapegoated for societal problems. A common trope is that Jews secretly control society and are to blame for its ills. The prejudice has continued through the Inquisition, Russian pogroms and the worst mass murder in history, the Holocaust, which led to the coining of a new term: genocide. In modern times, many American Jews believed that the United States had left behind this tradition, with some reason. But as Conor Cruise O’Brien, an Irish writer and politician, noted, “Antisemitism is a light sleeper.” It tends to re-emerge when societies become polarized and people go looking for somebody to blame. This pattern helps explain why antisemitism began rising, first in Europe and then in the United States, in the 2010s, around the same time that politics coarsened. The anger pulsing through society has manifested itself through animosity toward Jews. The political right, including President Trump, deserves substantial blame. Yes, he has led a government crackdown against antisemitism on college campuses, and that crackdown has caused colleges to become more serious about addressing the problem. But Mr. Trump has also used the subject as a pretext for his broader campaign against the independence of higher education. The combination risks turning antisemitism into yet another partisan issue, encouraging opponents to dismiss it as one of his invented realities. Even worse, Mr. Trump had made it normal to hate, by using bigoted language about a range of groups, including immigrants, women and trans Americans. Since he entered the political scene, attacks on Asian, Black, Latino and L.G.B.T. Americans have spiked, according to the F.B.I. While he claims to deplore antisemitism, his actions tell a different story. He has dined with a Holocaust denier, and his Republican Party has nominated antisemites for elected offices, including governor of North Carolina. Mr. Trump himself praised as “very fine people” the attendees of a 2017 march in Charlottesville, Va., that featured the chant “Jews will not replace us.” On Jan. 6, 2021, at least one rioter attacking the Capitol screamed that he was looking for “the big Jew,” referring to Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, Mr. Schumer has said. The problem extends to popular culture. Joe Rogan, the podcaster who endorsed Mr. Trump last year, has hosted Holocaust conspiracy theorists on his show. Mr. Rogan once said of Jews, “They run everything.” In the Trumpist right, antisemitism has a home."

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"It also has a home on the progressive left, and the bipartisan nature of the problem has helped make it distinct. Progressives reject many other forms of hate even as some tolerate antisemitism. College campuses, where Jewish students can face social ostracization, have become the clearest example. A decade ago, members of the student government at U.C.L.A. debated blocking a Jewish student from a leadership post, claiming that she might not be able to represent the entire community. In 2018, spray-painted swastikas appeared on walls at Columbia. At Baruch, Drexel and the University of Pittsburgh, activists have recently called for administrators to cut ties with or close Hillel groups, which support Jewish life. In a national survey by Eitan Hersh of Tufts University and Dahlia Lyss, college students who identified as liberal were more likely than either moderates or conservatives last year to say that they “avoid Jews because of their views.” One explanation is that antisemitism has become conflated with the divisive politics of the current Israel-Hamas war. It is certainly true that criticism of the Israeli government is not the same thing as antisemitism. This editorial board has long defended Israel’s right to exist while also criticizing the government for its treatment of Palestinians. Since the current war began, we have abhorred the mass killing of civilians and the destruction of Gaza. Israel’s reflexive defenders are wrong, and they hurt their own cause when they equate all such arguments with antisemitism. But some Americans have gone too far in the other direction. They have engaged in whataboutism regarding anti-Jewish hate. They have failed to denounce antisemitism in the unequivocal ways that they properly denounce other bigotry. Natan Sharansky, the former Soviet dissident, has suggested a “3D” test for when criticism of Israel crosses into antisemitism, with the D’s being delegitimization, demonization and double standards. Progressive rhetoric has regularly failed that test in recent years. “Americans generally have greater ability to identify Jew hatred when it comes from the hard right and less ability and comfort to call out Jew hatred when it comes from the hard left or radical Islamism,” said Rachel Fish, an adviser to Brandeis University’s Presidential Initiative on Antisemitism. Consider the double standard that leads to a fixation on Israel’s human rights record and little campus activism about the records of China, Russia, Sudan, Venezuela or almost any other country. Consider how often left-leaning groups suggest that the world’s one Jewish state should not exist and express admiration for Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis — Iran-backed terrorist groups that brag about murdering Jews. Consider how often people use “Zionist” as a slur — an echo of Soviet propaganda from the Cold War — and call for the exclusion of Zionists from public spaces. The definition of a Zionist is somebody who supports the existence of Israel. Historical comparisons can also be instructive. The period since Oct. 7, 2023, is hardly the first time that global events have contributed to a surge in hate crimes against a specific group. Asian Americans were the victims in 2020 and 2021 after the Covid pandemic began in China. Muslim Americans were the victims after Sept. 11, 2001. In those periods, a few fringe voices, largely on the far right, tried to justify the hate, but the response from much of American society was denunciation. President George W. Bush visited a mosque on Sept. 17, 2001, and proclaimed, “Islam is peace.” During Covid, displays of Asian allyship filled social media. Recent experience has been different in a couple of ways. One, the attacks against Jews have been even more numerous and violent, as the F.B.I. data shows. Two, the condemnation has been quieter and at times tellingly agonized. University leaders have often felt uncomfortable decrying antisemitism without also decrying Islamophobia. Islamophobia, to be clear, is a real problem that deserves attention on its own. Yet antisemitism seems to be a rare type of bigotry that some intellectuals are uncomfortable rebuking without caveat. After the Sept. 11 attacks, they did not feel the need to rebuke both Islamophobia and antisemitism. Nor should they have. People should be able to denounce a growing form of hatred without ritually denouncing other forms. Alarmingly, the antisemitic rhetoric of both the political right and the left has filtered into justifications for violence. But there has been an asymmetry in recognizing the connections. After a gunman murdered 11 people at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh in 2018, observers correctly noted that he had become radicalized partly through racist right-wing social media. There has been a similar phenomenon in some recent attacks, this time with the assailants using the language of the left. The man who burned marchers in Colorado shouted “Free Palestine!” and (awkwardly) “End Zionist!” The man charged with killing the young Israeli Embassy workers in Washington last month is suspected of having posted an online manifesto titled “Escalate for Gaza, Bring the War Home.” His supporters have since published a petition that includes “Globalize the Intifada.” The demonizing, delegitimizing rhetoric of the right bore some responsibility for the Pittsburgh massacre; the demonizing, delegitimizing rhetoric of the left bears some responsibility for the recent attacks. Americans should be able to recognize the nuanced nature of many political debates while also recognizing that antisemitism has become an urgent problem. It is a different problem — and in many ways, a narrower one — than racism. Antisemitism has not produced shocking gaps in income, wealth and life expectancy in today’s America. Yet the new antisemitism has left Jewish Americans at a greater risk of being victimized by a hate crime than any other group. Many Jews live with fears that they never expected to experience in this country. No political arguments or ideological context can justify that bigotry. The choice is between denouncing it fully and encouraging an even broader explosion of hate."

6/15/2025 1:19:05 PM