look besides even if i'm really posting under two different names, which would be a ridiculous waste of time (logging in and out), why not just pay attention to the content of the posts? fixating on stupid shit like whether or not the poster is playing some stupid, masturbatory internet game is a typical chimp-tactic to avoid contact with ideas that may require effortful revisions
11/5/2010 12:47:59 PM
11/5/2010 1:15:11 PM
Please continue to grumble about everything except the content of my post, it's good to see that the recent oil spill in the gulf isn't affecting the harvest of red herrings.
11/5/2010 1:19:29 PM
11/5/2010 2:34:47 PM
White people have the luxury of almost never suffering any kind of racism that meaningfully impacts their life in negative, which is why most have this idea that it's not an issue anymore, or that we're moving backwards with 'too much diversity'. If you think racism's dead in this country please read this, do yourself a favor and click the citation links and educate yourself. http://www.timwise.org/2010/07/black-powers-gonna-git-you-sucka-right-wing-paranoia-and-the-rhetoric-of-modern-racism/A few highlights:-research indicating that job applicants with white sounding names have a 50 percent better chance of being called back for an interview than their counterparts with black-sounding names, even when all qualifications are the same-the study that found white job applicants with criminal records have a better chance of being called back for an interview than black applicants without one, even when all the qualifications are the same-massive nationwide study that estimated at least 1 million cases of blatant job discrimination against blacks, Latinos and Asian Americans each year, affecting roughly one-in-three job seekers of color-black males with college degrees are almost twice as likely as their white male counterparts to be out of work-recent revelations that police in New York City are blatantly profiling blacks and Latinos, stopping and frisking them in massive numbers, even though in 90 percent of all cases, the people they stop are released without any charge because they are found to have done nothing illegal-white police officers conspired to murder a black man in New Orleans after Katrina, and then cover up the crime, or the way other whites formed a vigilante terror squad and went hunting for black people in the aftermath of the flooding-that story about the Philadelphia cop who refers to black folks as animals and niggersThere's way, way, way more. It might take a few hours to get through the entire article, but everyone owes it to themselves to study it. The bottom line is that, yes, there aren't nearly as many lynchings and direct violence as there was a few decades ago, but if you keep yourself abreast of blacks' treatment in America, you can understand why they might be a little sensitive about being called a word that represents their status as second-class citizens, because they are still wildly subject to racism on a daily basis. Whites, suffering almost none of this, have no practical experience to guide their perceptions and opinions on race in America, and if they don't actively seek education then most fall into a "Oh comon, things aren't that bad now are they?" mindset. Because they aren't aware that job and education discrimination is not only still very widespread but very well-documented, they think that Affirmative Action is actually giving minorities a leg-up over them, an opinion that is laughable to anyone with even a cursory knowledge of the pertinent statistics. Reminder: White people have been minimalizing and accusing blacks of whining and asking for too much since before slavery was even abolished.[Edited on November 5, 2010 at 2:49 PM. Reason : -][Edited on November 5, 2010 at 2:50 PM. Reason : -]
11/5/2010 2:47:17 PM
speak truth, brother
11/5/2010 2:50:56 PM
^^You're way better than the old Str8Foolish. He would just call everyone names when he wanted his way and didn't get it.
11/5/2010 2:59:48 PM
11/5/2010 3:11:15 PM
You'd have a point if words were nothing more than phonemic assemblies with no meaning, history, or context. Believing words have no power is a privilege that comes from living in a society where your racial/economic class is the one on the upper end of the power structure.Some words, particularly black-sounding names, have plenty of power, regardless of how much 'power' blacks choose to give them, as you'll find in the first study in the article I posted above.Your argument amounts to the same old "Stop whining, black people, racism is your own fault for talking about it." bullshit that whites use to deflect any analysis of the racial politics in America and shut up anyone who says otherwise. What a coincidence, in the very next paragraph you put forth a range of theories that the perpetrator could have been anybody but a white person. I can understand how you'd be confused by a lot of things if you have trouble comprehending the existence of a white racist southerner cowardly hiding behind the anonymity of whiteness-in-America to intimidate blacks.
11/5/2010 3:42:05 PM
^And what the do you know about the black struggle..other than what you read in articles?
11/5/2010 3:44:06 PM
The intent and race of some anonymous person is irrelevant when that person doesn't come out and tell us what his/her intent is. When intent isn't known, then the consequences of the action is what fully matters. It's not like John Lennon's song "Woman is the Nigger of the World." He's not calling women niggers, but rather saying that they are treated like second class citizen, and uses the connotation of the word "nigger" to not mean a black person, but rather how black people are treated (second class citizens). While the the title of the song may be offensive alone, with the full context of the song itself and Lennon's own words and explanation, it's not longer offensive, but rather takes on an entirely new meaning than what may have originally been perceived.In this case, the person who did it isn't confessing to doing it and offer an explanation. Rather we're left with our initial interpretation that this was a racist act, and in the absence of evidence to the contrary, I don't see why people shouldn't over-react. You can offer up a bunch of other motives as to why this was done, but just because you can create a bunch of alternative motives, doesn't mean that this being a racist and offensive act isn't possible, especially when people study past incidents of racism on this campus. I see no reason to give this speech the benefit of the doubt.
11/5/2010 3:52:00 PM
Well I have a pair of eyes and my cable subscription includes C-SPAN. That right there should be enough for anyone to see that America isn't quite post-racial yet.
11/5/2010 3:52:34 PM
11/5/2010 3:55:34 PM
^ No, but to say just because I'm white means I've never had to deal with racism before is foolish. Whites are just as capable of experiencing racism as any other racial group.
11/5/2010 4:34:31 PM
You don't have the right to not be offendedbut while we're taking away freedoms, how about you can't protest because your ignorance in how to deal with racism offends me as a black maleI'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.
11/5/2010 4:38:54 PM
11/5/2010 4:50:38 PM
11/5/2010 4:53:51 PM
AstralAdvent is certified by a third party to be both a unique user account and black.[Edited on November 5, 2010 at 4:56 PM. Reason : that sounded weird ]
11/5/2010 4:55:21 PM
11/5/2010 4:56:24 PM
I think NC State should do a "Redout" at the next home game.
11/5/2010 4:57:38 PM
this thread is still going?
11/5/2010 4:59:10 PM
Apparently.
11/5/2010 5:00:11 PM
11/5/2010 5:01:08 PM
"No fucking shit. If I'm not mistaken, they don't do background checks for every single fucking resume or job application that comes through. Try for a point when whites with criminal records get more job offers than blacks with the same qualifications. Otherwise, if they do a criminal background check for every Joe Schmuck that walks through the door, then let me know."Actually, if you clicked my link, and clicked the study for the link, you would see that they controlled for this and had the whites in second group actively presented evidence of felony conviction. The whites still got more job offers than blacks with none (Although it's possible that the interviewers just assumed blacks had criminal records, would that mean I still get no "point"?)[Edited on November 5, 2010 at 5:08 PM. Reason : tense][Edited on November 5, 2010 at 5:10 PM. Reason : clarification]
11/5/2010 5:07:58 PM
11/5/2010 5:12:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-NRriHlLUkDone and Done./Thread
11/5/2010 5:15:02 PM
11/5/2010 5:25:45 PM
I can just see James Madison sitting down with his quill and inkwell, "Let's see, first priority is to make sure Patriots have the right to call a spade a spade. Should probably throw something in there about bearing arms as well just in case nuclear weapons get invented and Big Government tries to keep them out of the hands of Patriots."
11/5/2010 5:32:15 PM
11/5/2010 5:45:22 PM
@merbig
11/5/2010 5:52:04 PM
^ There are other people on this board who still live in Raleigh/Cary area. Nothing is stopping them from doing anything about it. Again. It's all a bunch of pusillanimous bullshit. Even if these people were still students, they wouldn't do shit.
11/5/2010 5:52:29 PM
11/5/2010 5:53:37 PM
Something tells me if whites were being discriminated against you'd be poring over the article and making debate flashcards.
11/5/2010 5:54:43 PM
^^^^ Just FYI, I agree with basically everything you said, except they already do have cameras at the tunnel. Although as the Chancellor said at today's pow wow, they don't really work, like...at all.[Edited on November 5, 2010 at 5:58 PM. Reason : -][Edited on November 5, 2010 at 6:04 PM. Reason : -]
11/5/2010 5:58:13 PM
What year was that when some blatantly racist shit didn't go down on NCSU's campus?I can't remember. I think there was only one year though. Anyone remember?
11/5/2010 5:58:42 PM
^I don't know, does that year where there was only a "toilet paper noose" in a bathroom really count?
11/5/2010 6:01:38 PM
"What do you want the university to do? Spend a shit ton of money to have a security camera system in place to police the FET? Then you will have people complaining about privacy laws or how it's just a complete waste of money on a stupid project. "-I think you're grossly exaggerating the cost of a security camera, and I'm sure there's a donor out there-You don't have a right to privacy in public spaces.-Anyone who thinks its a 'stupid project' to hold racists accountable for anonymous public intimidation are themselves racism-enablers, fuck em.It's astounding how resistant you are to even the most minor inconvenience for white students as a response to an action that makes black students frightened to walk alone at night on campus
11/5/2010 6:03:12 PM
11/5/2010 6:06:55 PM
photos/00518033.jpGDefinitely shopped. I can tell by the pixels.
11/5/2010 6:08:35 PM
11/5/2010 6:12:27 PM
11/5/2010 6:17:03 PM
11/5/2010 6:18:13 PM
Also, I feel offended of the whole issue about White vs. Blacks. What about us Asians? We aren't black or white, can't be grouping us with Blacks. Black isn't a color... blah blah blahwhat was I trying to point out?...umm... FUCK YOU? There we go
11/5/2010 6:23:33 PM
^That's why I called him out saying this was only white students.I only heard about it because my former roommates and best friend (Indian, Vietnamese, and Black respectively) came to me bitching about it when they were going to library.
11/5/2010 6:32:28 PM
Exactly... what did this blockade accomplish? It only pissed us Asians off because we couldn't get to or fro the library. All would regret from delaying us from our studies.
11/5/2010 6:39:28 PM
My god, they've done it now. They've pissed off the Asians.
11/5/2010 6:41:14 PM
*Unleash Godzilla on NYC*
11/5/2010 6:42:03 PM
Fuck the asians, what about the indians. I'm gonna scalp somebody's ass.
11/5/2010 6:42:28 PM
are you fools still going?
11/5/2010 6:42:29 PM
^^ thought you guys liked to be called native americans? And scalping people asses sounds like it would make a shitty coat... Unless ppl have hairy asses...^yes...
11/5/2010 6:46:10 PM