'...for giving a baby a timbit'
Timbit = donut hole

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" Nicole Lilliman, 27, was fired yesterday from her Tim Hortons job for giving one of the 16-cent blobs of fried dough to a tot. "I have been fired for giving a baby a Timbit," Lilliman said yesterday. "It was just out of my heart – she was pointing and going `ah, ah...' I should have gone to my purse and got the change, but it was busy." Lilliman, who has worked at the store for three years, said she thought little of the incident since Timbits are often doled out to dogs and children. She said the baby was about 11 months old, and she gave her the treat to quiet her, since her mom – a Tims' regular – had been ``having a bad day." "I could see (the dismissal) if it was a sandwich or something," she said. "But it was a Timbit." Three managers greeted her yesterday, saying she had been caught on video giving free food to a child. "They said, `Remember, Monday you gave out a free Timbit,' " she said. "I had to think, then I was like, `Oh yeah,' and I smiled because I thought I'd get a warning." Instead, she was fired for theft. Giving food away is against the rules, said Tim Hortons district manager Nicole Mitchell. The Timbits given to pets, Mitchell added, are usually "day-old and recycled." "

Glad to see the complete and utter lack of common sense in business is not limited to american companies
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5/8/2008 11:19:16 AM

gun crime is gonna be on the rise there soon

5/8/2008 11:21:03 AM

Aww... was hoping for a TWW blog rant about someone having gotten fired.

5/8/2008 11:21:21 AM

Why do you think I titled it the way I did

5/8/2008 11:21:37 AM

If she stole something, then there is no reason she can complain. I understand your sentiments, but if there is a book to go by, and someone goes by the book, I got one word for you: Sorry.

5/8/2008 11:22:36 AM

I never said she didn't steal.

I just mentioned common sense

Common sense says you don't alienate a regular, paying customer by punishing an employee who does something kind for your kid, for sixteen cents. It probably would have cost more in labor costs for the employee to ring up the timbit. For sure, if it were a separate transaction, and possibly even if it were lumped into the mom's normal transaction

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 11:25 AM. Reason : lfkdj]

5/8/2008 11:23:23 AM

expecting the manager of a donut shop to have the best judgment, in Canada or elsewhere, is a mistake.

5/8/2008 11:25:09 AM

Well, their donuts taste like crap anyway.

5/8/2008 11:26:39 AM

Or Lebanese deli for that matter.

5/8/2008 11:26:45 AM

god i love Tim Hortons.

5/8/2008 11:27:08 AM

I am inclined to believe stealing was the reason given but she was probably doing other stuff to piss the manager off/make her dispensable.

Even morons don't fire good employees for little bullshit unless there is more to the story.

5/8/2008 11:27:47 AM

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"If she stole something, then there is no reason she can complain. I understand your sentiments, but if there is a book to go by, and someone goes by the book, I got one word for you: Sorry. "

lol, the default position

5/8/2008 11:27:49 AM

Tim Hortons rehires Timbit donor

http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/422936

5/8/2008 11:32:28 AM

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"I am inclined to believe stealing was the reason given but she was probably doing other stuff to piss the manager off/make her dispensable. Even morons don't fire good employees for little bullshit unless there is more to the story."

100% correct. I can think of several corporations that do this and have worked for one.

I was a manager for American Golf and had to fire two people for "stealing" M&M's from the snack bar. The company was restructuring and didn't lay anyone off, they just fired them.

The reason for this is because of unemployment claims. No person who is fired for stealing from an employer will be able to collect unemployment, period.

5/8/2008 11:33:08 AM

VINDICATION!




(and ps tim hortons blows)

5/8/2008 11:33:18 AM

Corporate managers are idiots anyway (no idea about franchise managers). You should see their qualifications. I am a consultant (troubleshooter) for a few corporations and when you see someone of these idiots in middle/upper management, I wonder how they gather the brain power to get dressed in the morning.

It wasn't so much of a problem in the past, but now that the economy seems to be tanking, lots of employees down the line are feeling the heat from their middle managers who are trying to cut costs everywhere (in addition to increasing their customer service/average ticket - if that makes any sense).

The tim hortons / wendy's merger was a bad idea, but things have gotten worse as of late.

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 11:37 AM. Reason : b]

5/8/2008 11:34:36 AM

Giving a ball of processed sugar to an 11 month old shows this woman had an IQ of about 60. She should be fired.

5/8/2008 11:35:31 AM

blasphemyshoes

5/8/2008 11:36:05 AM

^^

she worked in a donut shop


seriously, what do you expect

to have the best and the brightest in fast food?

come on jackass

5/8/2008 11:37:18 AM

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"I am inclined to believe stealing was the reason given but she was probably doing other stuff to piss the manager off/make her dispensable."

5/8/2008 11:44:07 AM

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"Glad to see the complete and utter lack of common sense in business is not limited to american companies"

why do you act surprised? not like we started that shit

5/8/2008 11:45:56 AM

I thought the firing was going to be about the donut hole being a choke hazard for an 11-month old or something

5/8/2008 11:46:47 AM

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"Even morons don't fire good employees for little bullshit unless there is more to the story."

i don't know, there are people who have misguided black and white viewpoints like this:

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"If she stole something, then there is no reason she can complain. I understand your sentiments, but if there is a book to go by, and someone goes by the book, I got one word for you: Sorry."

5/8/2008 11:47:04 AM

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"I am inclined to believe stealing was the reason given but she was probably doing other stuff to piss the manager off/make her dispensable"

While this is a very reasonable and understandable view to have...

The reason that wasn't the first thing that came to my mind is because bitchy, stupid, cranky managers who have no business supervising anyone are the rule, and not the exception.

We may not ever know all the circumstances, and that may very well be the case.

Or it could be something as ridiculous as a fat manager hating an employee because the employee is skinny.

5/8/2008 11:49:34 AM

She had it coming.

5/8/2008 1:02:17 PM

they should unionize...

5/8/2008 1:17:58 PM

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"i don't know, there are people who have misguided black and white viewpoints like this: [quote]If she stole something, then there is no reason she can complain. I understand your sentiments, but if there is a book to go by, and someone goes by the book, I got one word for you: Sorry."

[/quote]

Not misguided, just saying that if you know that something can caused you to get fired and if you do it, no matter how frivolous it is, the expected result should be known. I'm not saying I would have fired her, but if you know, you know.

5/8/2008 1:26:55 PM

and my boss should know that if he fires me for something as frivolous as this, i'm going to drag his ass out on the street and beat his ass. He shouldn't get pissed about it, cause if you know, you know.

5/8/2008 1:39:55 PM

Hey, as long as you disclose that before you get fired then its all good

5/8/2008 1:42:02 PM

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"100% correct. I can think of several corporations that do this and have worked for one. I was a manager for American Golf and had to fire two people for "stealing" M&M's from the snack bar. The company was restructuring and didn't lay anyone off, they just fired them. The reason for this is because of unemployment claims. No person who is fired for stealing from an employer will be able to collect unemployment, period. "

Now that's just dirty.....

5/8/2008 1:47:53 PM

^ I think you can get unemployment as long as you don't quit a job, if I am not mistaken. Even though you got fired, that still doesn't mean that you didn't work like you should have, and did your job, and doesn't deserve some help until you find employment.

5/8/2008 1:50:24 PM

Sounds good, but untrue.

There are a ton of circumstances that will disqualify you from collecting unemployment. Stealing is definitely one of them. Employers don't want their Unemployment Insurance premium to rise.

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 1:53 PM. Reason : d]

5/8/2008 1:51:41 PM

I liked the story about the chick with big boobs being fired from her teaching position better.

5/8/2008 1:54:21 PM

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"I am inclined to believe stealing was the reason given but she was probably doing other stuff to piss the manager off/make her dispensable."

5/8/2008 1:54:55 PM

^^She has been approached by Playboy and has been asked to appear to the tune of $25,000 per picture.

Everything has worked out okay for her, I guess. I don't think she'd get unemployment either.

[Edited on May 8, 2008 at 1:56 PM. Reason : j]

5/8/2008 1:55:24 PM

5/8/2008 1:56:09 PM

haha nice title ambrosia1231

5/8/2008 2:01:58 PM

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"I am inclined to believe stealing was the reason given but she was probably doing other stuff to piss the manager off/make her dispensable"

She might have turned off the freezers on purpose one night, causing hundreds of dollars of product to be lost

Or left the doors unlocked to the store one night

Or repeatedly have to be told to stop talking to their friends and get their ass to work

Much like the people where I used to work...they never got fired for those things ><

5/8/2008 2:14:35 PM