http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080728/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_military_execution




"Any guy who thinks he's so fucking bad to lay his hands on a woman is NOT a real man, deserves to have his nuts cut off and then be ran down by an SUV on a dirt road..to put it plainly. I COMPLETELY
agree with Bush giving this dumb ass the death penalty!!"

7/28/2008 11:24:38 PM

Still gets a no from me. I don't care if the man conducted a world-wide massacre.

7/28/2008 11:29:20 PM

oneandonly time?

7/28/2008 11:29:33 PM

death penalty = teh winz

7/28/2008 11:30:50 PM

I'm not trying to start a debate or whatever, but just out of curiosity, cddweller, say if Hitler had been captured alive back in WWII would you be against a death penalty for him?

7/28/2008 11:31:21 PM

haha, why do these hypothetical questions always involve hitler

7/28/2008 11:32:03 PM

I would still be against the death penalty.

7/28/2008 11:34:16 PM

Cause he's the worst guy in recent history that everyone knows.

I mean I guess I could say something like Genghis Kahn, but most people don't really know that much about him unless they are a historian or whatever. Lots of people probably have grandparents or know someone who fought in WWII.

7/28/2008 11:35:27 PM

I know descendants of Holocaust survivors who say the same thing I do.

7/28/2008 11:36:21 PM

I always agree with bush as long as its not too thick

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7/28/2008 11:37:06 PM

paging TopJew

7/28/2008 11:37:17 PM

I bet cddweller would blow Hitler. And that's probably just as bad as the chair.

7/28/2008 11:37:51 PM

I'm not arguing, I'm just curious. Like what if this Army dude raped and killed your future daughter, would that change things?

7/28/2008 11:38:06 PM

considering cddweller's recent injury, she's not too keen on the bush

7/28/2008 11:38:48 PM

lol, wut?

The fact that my ex went to Iraq and came back a psycho? That has nothing to do with it, I was born a republican and stayed that way for 21 years.

7/28/2008 11:39:31 PM

Plus it's much more costly to American taxpayers to keep some heinous criminal in prison over the course of their lifetime...the state picks up their hospital tab, feeding them, clothing them..yada yada....with some folks life in prison is a great thing for others I say 'HELL YEAH to the death"...that goes for ALL rapists..and folks like Jeffrey Dahmer! the death penalty was made for specific nut jobs like these crazy asses!

7/28/2008 11:40:12 PM

I am about to show my true colors in a way that TWW never thought was possible.

The death penalty is an abomination against God. Only God has the ability to decide whether or not a life should begin or end. To take another's life is to liken yourself unto God and that is blasphemous.

And that is how I really do feel about that.

7/28/2008 11:40:14 PM

An eye for an eye, though, right?

7/28/2008 11:41:42 PM

^^Amen. Thank you.

^If you're a fucking savage. Ernie.

7/28/2008 11:41:57 PM

Sorry, I just read that somewhere.

7/28/2008 11:42:42 PM

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"The death penalty is an abomination against God."

You don't know that.

7/28/2008 11:42:50 PM

There's ZERO evidence that the death penalty deters crime

Gotta love the south where eye-for-an-eye punishment is still considered the norm

7/28/2008 11:43:00 PM

^^ She does, too, it's in the Bible.

7/28/2008 11:43:26 PM

I feel those that are for the death penalty should be the ones to kill the people that they are teaching a lesson to.

7/28/2008 11:44:23 PM

Isn't the concept of retributive justice in the Bible, too? Where's the part about picking and choosing which principles you want to follow?

7/28/2008 11:45:03 PM

You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:38–39, NRSV)

An 'eye for an eye' comes from the parts of the Bible that are Jewish Law. Jesus Christ teaches what I have specified above. I hate it when people pick what they wish from the Bible and choose to ignore the context.

7/28/2008 11:45:24 PM

I'm fairly morally plastic. That's what makes me such a good Christian!

7/28/2008 11:46:20 PM

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"Where's the part about picking and choosing which principles you want to follow?"

There isn't, that's the land of hypocrisy. I thought you knew this stuff.

7/28/2008 11:46:36 PM

deuteronomy 19:16-19:21

16If a malicious witness comes forward to accuse someone of wrongdoing, 17then both parties to the dispute shall appear before the Lord, before the priests and the judges who are in office in those days, 18and the judges shall make a thorough inquiry. If the witness is a false witness, having testified falsely against another, 19then you shall do to the false witness just as the false witness had meant to do to the other. So you shall purge the evil from your midst. 20The rest shall hear and be afraid, and a crime such as this shall never again be committed among you. 21Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

7/28/2008 11:46:46 PM

'Bottombaby' this is why we need a separation of church and state b/c you ASSUME most folks believe what you do, and having worked in a group home for abused teenagers, I can tell you from first hand experience that the parents/guardians of kids whose lives have been changed forever by rape, would look at your comment, pick up your Bible and throw it right back in your face.

Alot of people believe and God, but dont take some holier than thou sentiment and act as if youd know how youd feel if you were in that situation b/c you sure as hell WOULD NOT!!

7/28/2008 11:47:10 PM

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"I hate it when people pick what they wish from the Bible and choose to ignore the context."

You mean some Christians don't do this? Are we not still supposed to stone those who work on the Sabbath?

7/28/2008 11:48:03 PM

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"You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:38–39, NRSV)"

Sure, but what about when God told the Israelites to commit genocide because the people of town x were sinners?

7/28/2008 11:48:54 PM

^^^ OMFG THANK YOU

the bible and law have nothing to do with one another except for those who wish it were so.

[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM. Reason : .]

7/28/2008 11:49:36 PM

Im not a religious person, but most people have a sense of what's right and wrong...and anyone Christian or not can spew some Bible verse to back up an idea. (God I cant believe im defending Bush-this will go down in history!), but his actions come down to simple right and wrong...and if you read the article you will see that this main committed atrocities not once but NUMEROUS times.

a slap on the wrist for life was NOT going to do this moron no good whatsoever! So Bush decided to give him the death sentence and my one and only time ever im in 150% agreement with him!!

7/28/2008 11:50:49 PM

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"'Bottombaby' this is why we need a separation of church and state b/c you ASSUME most folks believe what you do, and having worked in a group home for abused teenagers, I can tell you from first hand experience that the parents/guardians of kids whose lives have been changed forever by rape, would look at your comment, pick up your Bible and throw it right back in your face. Alot of people believe and God, but dont take some holier than thou sentiment and act as if youd know how youd feel if you were in that situation b/c you sure as hell WOULD NOT!!"

i don't really see how that has anything to do with it

[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 11:52 PM. Reason : v ahaha, gg]

7/28/2008 11:50:58 PM

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"The death penalty was outlawed between 1972 and 1984, when President Reagan reinstated it."

If Reagan is OK with it, then it cant be wrong.


And thats a proven fact

7/28/2008 11:51:51 PM

^^^Wow, so 2 wrongs do make a right?

Haha, slap on the wrist for life. I, personally, would rather get executed than take it on a daily basis in prison

[Edited on July 28, 2008 at 11:53 PM. Reason : ^]

7/28/2008 11:51:55 PM

fykal Japan read the article and then rejoin the conversation..

7/28/2008 11:52:31 PM

i read it two hours ago artard

7/28/2008 11:53:14 PM

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"Haha, slap on the wrist for life. I, personally, would rather get executed than take it on a daily basis in prison"

Maybe prisoners could whether they wanted life in prison or immediate death, and we could spin it so that their choice is clearly one sided, like if they chose life, we could put them just out of arm's reach of water and food, while somebody pokes them in the liver.

7/28/2008 11:58:06 PM

There are a number of people who have been victims of rape or family members of murdered individuals who still do not believe in the death penalty.

Religious views aside, our justice system is far too biased and imperfect for the death penalty. Putting innocent individuals to death along with the guilty certainly does not make up for the crimes committed.

7/28/2008 11:58:29 PM

separation of church and state or no, that guy deserved a horrible death a long time ago.

^ in the case of your rape victim families, how about we just take those that decide to go rape someone's daughter, wife, mother or sister, and let them hop on an iron stick for a while

[Edited on July 29, 2008 at 12:01 AM. Reason : ]

7/29/2008 12:00:08 AM

It depends on if the rate of guilty and innocent deaths is equal or not.

7/29/2008 12:00:34 AM

^^^I don't care if there's a 235% chance the person is guilty. The gov't is to act on behlaf of its citizens, and I don't want to have someone else's blood on my hands. That is simply falling to their level, in my opinion.

I don't understand the whole "This person killed someone so lets kill him" attitude. We don't burn the houses down of arsonists or steal something from a theif, so why kill murderers?

[Edited on July 29, 2008 at 12:02 AM. Reason : ^]

7/29/2008 12:00:42 AM

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"The death penalty is an abomination against God. Only God has the ability to decide whether or not a life should begin or end. To take another's life is to liken yourself unto God and that is blasphemous. And that is how I really do feel about that."

Here's an idea then. Lets just drop them off in the middle of the desert with no supplies. Or drop them off in the ocean about 50 miles off the coast. That way we're not killng them, nature is.

I'll be damned if my money's going towards some murderer/rapist sitting on his ass in prison for the rest of his life. Take enough of my tax payer money to buy a bullet, end of story.

7/29/2008 12:01:30 AM

"their level" would be killing an innocent individual. there's a difference between punishing a murderer, or killing somebody for the $20 in their wallet

[Edited on July 29, 2008 at 12:03 AM. Reason : ]

7/29/2008 12:02:31 AM

Can't we just send all criminals to some large island somewhere? And then they could compete on a reality show! And then we could make back our tax money in ad revenue! SWEET!

7/29/2008 12:03:18 AM

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"I'll be damned if my money's going towards some murderer/rapist sitting on his ass in prison for the rest of his life. Take enough of my tax payer money to buy a bullet, end of story."

Appeals for 20 years isn't cheaper than life in prison. Maybe if those given the death penalty were killed quicker then your argument would stand

7/29/2008 12:03:49 AM

^^ Exactly Fry!!

7/29/2008 12:04:12 AM

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""their level" would be killing an innocent individual. there's a difference between punishing a murderer, or killing somebody for the $20 in their wallet"

Placing values on different human's lives is a dangerous road to head down

7/29/2008 12:04:58 AM