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thumper
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Not only has another woman been murdered in Cary, but once again the investigation is leading towards the spouse. I just don't get it!

Also, can I just say that this is in my neighborhood - it's only one street up from ours. We're talking maybe 200 yards between their front door and ours.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3501167/

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"Cary police say woman's death was murder

Posted: Today at 7:46 p.m.

Cary, N.C. — Police ruled that the death of a 29-year-old woman, whose body was found by her roommates Saturday morning, was a homicide after they received preliminary autopsy results Sunday.

Officers named Arnulfo Barron Cobos as a suspect in the death of Maria Teresa Herrera-Diaz. Cobos is Herrera-Diaz's common-law husband, police said.

"Our focus in this very sad case is to find Mr. Cobos," police Chief Pat Bazemore said. "Our thoughts and prayers are with Maria's family as we work to bring a certain resolution to this terrible tragedy."

Herrera-Diaz's roommates found her dead in her residence at 102 Dunhagen Place. The cause of her death has not been released.

Police described Cobos as an Hispanic man, about 50 years old, standing 5 feet 6 to 7 inches tall and weighing 200 pounds. In a picture distributed by police, he has a mustache, and police said he also has a goatee.

Investigators believe Cobos left Herrera-Diaz's home between 4:15 a.m. and 5:15 a.m. Saturday. He was driving a stolen silver 2004 Saturn L-300, with North Carolina license plate number XWT-5469.

Cobos did not report to work at the LaTapita Supermarket in Raleigh as scheduled, and his whereabouts were unknown, police said.

Anyone with information related to this incident should call the Cary Police Department Watch Commander at 919-469-4016."



[Edited on September 7, 2008 at 10:38 PM. Reason : x]

9/7/2008 10:38:08 PM

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"he has a mustache, and police said he also has a goatee"


I'm not brushed up on my facial hair lingo but doesn't a goatee include a mustache?

9/7/2008 11:05:55 PM

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a goatee is just the chin. a van dyke is the mustache and chin.

also, common law husband? North Carolina doesn't have that concept.

[Edited on September 7, 2008 at 11:13 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2008 11:12:39 PM

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police say he has a moustache that goes apart and then comes back together.

9/7/2008 11:14:05 PM

nutsmackr
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does it com eback?

9/7/2008 11:14:48 PM

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dont you mean

cam eback together?

9/7/2008 11:14:49 PM

thumper
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I'm so glad someone finally replied to this thread! Even if it is only to talk about the existence of facial hair.

I was beginning to think that a dead white woman in Cary was BREAKING NEWS! and a dead Mexican in Cary was SO WHAT?

[Edited on September 7, 2008 at 11:18 PM. Reason : X]

9/7/2008 11:18:26 PM

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http://goateesaver.com/




what the fuck.

9/7/2008 11:19:41 PM

nutsmackr
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indeed

9/7/2008 11:20:56 PM

Mindstorm
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Nancy Grace does not approve of this thread.

9/7/2008 11:45:19 PM

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"once again the investigation is leading towards the spouse. I just don't get it!"



spend some time around men who've been married five or so years. it will become pretty clear

9/7/2008 11:49:45 PM

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So did he steal the car before or after the alleged murder?

Also, whatever happened with that other chick?

9/7/2008 11:51:13 PM

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no one cares its just a mez'kin

9/8/2008 1:05:09 AM

khcadwal
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stay out of cary

and don't get married

9/8/2008 1:08:03 AM

evan
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that's a pretty shitty part of cary

and isn't it Dunhagan, not Dunhagen?

9/8/2008 1:08:24 AM

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^^are you seriously in law school and don't understand common-law marriage?

9/8/2008 1:11:45 AM

thumper
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"stay out of cary

and don't get married"


looks like i'm double screwed

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"that's a pretty shitty part of cary

and isn't it Dunhagan, not Dunhagen?"


that's not a shitty part of Cary, what are you talking about? every house in that neighborhood is $200k+. i think you're confused about where that street is. you're probably thinking about the downtown Cary side of Walnut St. that's kinda trashy back in there.

and yes, it should be Dunhagan.

9/8/2008 12:05:09 PM

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Doesn't common-law marriage imply living together for at least 7 years? In that case, when they began cohabiting, he was 43 and she was 22. That's just a bit of an age difference...

9/8/2008 3:37:41 PM

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"that's not a shitty part of Cary"


Truth!
Pirates Cove is still very nice, I grew up in that neighborhood.

9/8/2008 3:54:54 PM

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Note to self, thumper lives 200 yards from 102 Dunhagen Place.

9/8/2008 4:01:31 PM

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"Also, can I just say that this is in my neighborhood - it's only one street up from ours. We're talking maybe 200 yards between their front door and ours. "


What does location have to do with it? It's not like this is some random murder that could've been you.

9/8/2008 4:08:47 PM

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That is in the shitty part of Cary.

9/8/2008 4:30:27 PM

thumper
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"What does location have to do with it? It's not like this is some random murder that could've been you."


just knowing a woman was murdered that close to me is creepy enough. haha, did i mention that the previous owner of this house died in my bathtub of an aneurysm at the age of 39??

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"That is in the shitty part of Cary."


if by 'shitty' you mean 'not filled with million dollar homes' - there is nothing shitty about this area, not in the least.

9/8/2008 10:03:51 PM

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"Note to self, thumper lives 200 yards from 102 Dunhagen Place."


omg stalker.

psst...white house, green shutters.

9/8/2008 10:04:35 PM

djeternal
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oooooooooh, you little minx

9/8/2008 10:08:46 PM

thumper
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THE ROAD STARTS WITH THE LETTER G
come and get me baby

9/8/2008 10:14:32 PM

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"that's a pretty shitty part of cary"


There's nothing shitty about this neighborhood you snobby fucks. It's very safe, clean, kept up very well, and the houses range anywhere from 180k-300k. It's a nice, established middle-class to upper-middle neighborhood with a bunch of people who give a shit about their property.

It's a fuck ton nicer than the college neighborhoods most people live on here anyway, and it's an area where most people on here could reasonably expect to buy their first house. Definitely a part of town where you can walk down the street at night and feel completely safe.

9/8/2008 10:25:25 PM

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300k is upper middle ?



than what is 700 k ?

9/8/2008 10:28:20 PM

djeternal
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^^^ oh my

9/8/2008 10:32:05 PM

eleusis
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300k is living responsibly within your means.

9/8/2008 10:33:31 PM

djeternal
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nevermind, i was confused

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 10:36 PM. Reason : a]

9/8/2008 10:36:01 PM

eleusis
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I guess I should have specified that 300k is living responsibly for upper middle class families, and even that assumes they don't go crazy with their spending in other areas.

9/8/2008 10:41:33 PM

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i dont know... i would think with two working people 300k would be middle class...cutting close to upper middle...but def not upper middle.


but thats just my opinion

9/8/2008 10:45:15 PM

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"300k is upper middle ?



than what is 700 k ?"


upper upper

9/8/2008 10:45:24 PM

EMCE
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uhhh, no

9/8/2008 10:50:01 PM

djeternal
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if you have a $700k house, you are rich

9/8/2008 10:54:36 PM

EMCE
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I would agree

9/8/2008 10:55:07 PM

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Holy schiza, my dad lives by there, off Bay Drive.

9/8/2008 10:55:24 PM

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"i dont know... i would think with two working people 300k would be middle class...cutting close to upper middle...but def not upper middle.


but thats just my opinion

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says the rich kid from charlotte.

9/8/2008 10:56:22 PM

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i know shitty parts of cary, believe me. i know just about every road in cary.

comparatively speaking, that is, indeed, a shitty part of cary. not the shittiest by any means, however.

you're right, though - the part of walnut near downtown, and around harrison/chapel hill - it's even shittier.

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 11:01 PM. Reason : .]

9/8/2008 11:00:04 PM

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"i dont know... i would think with two working people 300k would be middle class...cutting close to upper middle...but def not upper middle.


but thats just my opinion"


Definitely not. A married couple with two kids earning above average wages, living responsibly and, realistically, paying off one person's student loans and paying off a 30 year mortgage with one new car and saving for both kids' college and saving responsibly for retirement will suck up a lot of that money pretty quick.

Those 700k neighborhoods are upper class. You're not thinking realistically if you think you're going to go buy a house like that five years out of college (at which point many of you will be middle to upper middle class with your degrees and work experience). Your debt ratio would be unrealistic, or you'd be compromising every other part of your existence simply to maintain that house purchase (read: just paying off the mortgage and living slightly better than a college student).

^ Uh, I grew up not too far from there, in a neighborhood most directly attached to that and it is not a shitty neighborhood. I mean, I know you think it's shitty, but it's not. It's pretty clear to me at this point that while you and I both grew up in Cary, you were more sheltered and more spoiled than I was. That neighborhood and the ones attached to it are middle to upper middle class, and they're slowly stagnating towards more of a middle-class status. They are definitely not in the shitty part of Cary though. The western portions of Cary certainly are the more wealthy parts of Cary, and many of those aren't necessarily better than the pirate's cove/greenwood/seabrook neighborhood of Cary except for the fact that the homes are newer. That whole neighborhood does border some sketchy shit to the north off of nottingham (that whole townhouse complex up there is not as nice as pirate's cove, and those apartment complexes up on the hill are crappy as hell), but that stuff has not affected that whole pirates cove/greenwood/seabrook area. Down maynard towards chatham it gets sketchy, and following chatham into downtown those surrounding neighborhoods are sketchy houses bordering some really nice houses. Those areas, along with any other neighborhoods with trailer parks, older townhomes, or much older houses in old neighborhoods are the sketchy parts of Cary.

Y'all seriously don't get out much if you're calling a neighborhood with $200k+ homes, responsible landowners, and very low crime a shitty part of town.

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 11:08 PM. Reason : Quit being so god damn sheltered, wolfwebbers.]

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 11:13 PM. Reason : I'm gonna blame the beer on that one.]

9/8/2008 11:01:00 PM

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who never worked or bought anything, so what the fuck does he know

9/8/2008 11:03:46 PM

NC86
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well..... how about with no debt after graduating.

i think its reasonable

9/8/2008 11:15:12 PM

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^ I'm getting $3,268.01/mo as your monthly mortgage payment on a $700k house with a 20% down payment (that's $140,000 you're saving up for a down payment, keep in mind). It'd be reasonable to say you're going to drop $40-45k a year paying the mortgage off and paying for the annual repairs you're simply going to have to do on a house as a homeowner. Assuming that you live modestly and are able to pay your basic expenses (food, water, car, insurance (all medical and vehicular), clothing, fun, etc) with 35k pretax (for two people), and you save up 20% of whatever you make for retirement and your kid's college, and assuming you're planning for kids so you're saving up a bit in that regard, you're looking at a combined income of about... say... $132k combined pretax per year to maintain that kind of lifestyle? That's assuming you aren't driving the nicest car (that 1997 honda accord will be sticking around for a while), you aren't getting all the latest gadgets and cable TV stuff (you've got some nice stuff but you don't treat your income as disposable so you don't upgrade but once every three or four years). You're also not taking any vacations or eating out very much, if at all. Once you have kids, your wife is also going to have to stay home to take care of the kids or you're going to be paying out the asshole for daycare and preschool services before they go to school (and that is as much as a mortgage payment per kid, like $400-1200 depending on the part of town, and if you're in the $700k home part of down it'll probably be about $800-1000/mo to pay for that shit).

If you add in all the shit I'm talking about your pretax income would have to be rather enormous. I don't want to go through and calculate a $350/mo car payment and $2000/mo in daycare plus all the other stuff you'll have to pay for with the kid (which is also a stupid large amount). By the time you're paying for all that shit you're looking at upper class status, which is realistically what a $700k house is.

Oh yeah, after graduating, assuming you live like a poor ass college student and make the average for an engineering graduate (call it fifty five grand a year, which is a high estimate), you'll be taking home about $41,000 of that after taxes. To maintain your expenses alone, single, you're looking at, say, $16,000-20,000 a year (you're still splitting rent and utilities). If you're living with somebody that might be more like $26,000-36,000 a year. So let's assume you are living with somebody, you're spending $30k a year and living pretty frugally but not uncomfortably in a shitty apartment and you've got $40-45k/yr leftover. It'd take you three and a half years just to save up for your down payment, assuming no other unexpected events (like your college car breaking down (requiring replacement), or somebody having health problems and going to the ER, or getting into a bad car accident). After that you might be making another ten to twenty thousand per year if you're both working (a reasonably conservative assumption). So now you have $60k/yr leftover. $42k of that goes to your new house to pay for the mortgage and for the little stuff that breaks (that damn ac unit doesn't work and your front door won't close easily and the grass died in the first frost). You spend $400/mo on homeowner's dues which sucks another five grand out of your wallet each year. You have thirteen thousand dollars left each year, which you now have to choose to save for your retirement or to save up to pay for your first kid and their expenses and their college.

You see how that is not feasible? Most kids coming out of college aren't going to make more than what I assumed in that, and I was being reasonably conservative and assuming a few things would go wrong (which is just life).

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 11:36 PM. Reason : the part about the post-college stuff]

9/8/2008 11:28:43 PM

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i said 300k

and jesus christ dude.... WORDS... too many of them... and whoever said anything about a baby ?

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 11:34 PM. Reason : x]

9/8/2008 11:30:00 PM

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People living their lives like they were rich, but instead are in debt...then they kill their wife.

9/8/2008 11:39:41 PM

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some of you have really fucked up conceptions of wealth. A 300k house is upper middle class.

9/8/2008 11:40:11 PM

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^^^ Yeah, I'm justifying a lot and clarifying the $700k house shit. Also, a $300k house might be sustainable, but if i went through that again not assuming a full down payment (also reasonable considering a lot of first-time buyers), assuming vehicle swaps (college beaters generally aren't great for hauling kids around, or safe, or reliable).

Also, as soon as you get a wife and get married you'll see where the money goes and where the kid fits into the picture. Haha, assuming your wife is going to be 100% compliant with living like a college student, driving a shitty car, and being housepoor 100% of the time is not that realistic. Not saving for retirement is also real unrealistic. If you're married, not saving for kids is totally unrealistic. Retirement + saving for kids easily takes up 30% of your post-tax income out of college. It's expensive to retire and it's expensive to have kids, so that shit isn't as realistic as you think.

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 11:41 PM. Reason : ^ Yeah, and it's a pretty decent house at that. 2-3 story brick traditional with a half acre.]

[Edited on September 8, 2008 at 11:46 PM. Reason : A single man can expect to get a $180k-200k house by himself. Marriage + kids = $220-240k, no loans]

9/8/2008 11:40:56 PM

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Shitty is a relative term. I am not saying that is a shitty neighborhood, but it is a shitty part of Cary. When you compare that area to neighborhoods like McGregor, Normandy, Preston, etc that is a pretty pathetic neighborhood. And lol at you people saying living in a 300k house makes you upper middle class.

9/9/2008 12:21:34 AM

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set em up

9/9/2008 12:30:04 AM

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