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Ragged
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"But 47-year-old Michael Harold Lynch, of Bellevue, Wash., apparently took his anger to a new level when he emptied $206 in small change into a plastic bag, soaking it in urine and mailing it to the payments division of the Multnomah County courthouse. Mailroom staff handed over the box -- and the angry letter that accompanied it -- to a sheriff's sergeant.

"It was nasty. It reeked," said Sgt. Phil Anderchuk.

Anderchuk called a U.S. postal inspector to see if federal law had been broken, and learned that it's not against the law to mail a box of bodily fluids, as long as it's properly packed and doesn't emit an obnoxious odor. (Court staff could only smell the contents once they opened the package).

So the sergeant sealed up the box and mailed it back to Lynch -- with $27.30 postage due if Lynch wanted his change back.

Lynch had been ticketed by Portland police Officer Chris Cass last October for driving 19 mph over the posted 35 mph speed limit in a construction zone along Southeast McLoughlin Boulevard near the Ross Island Bridge. Lynch apparently ignored the ticket and missed a court date in which he could have shown up to fight the ticket or argued his case to the judge in a letter. He racked up an extra $65 in fees.

Then, the box showed up.

In explaining why the courthouse couldn't accept Lynch's payment, the sergeant wrote that "the pile of coins emitted a strong, pungent odor of stale urine. This was very concerning to me."

Anderchuk reminded Lynch he still owed for the ticket.

"I encourage you to submit your payment in a more traditional form," he wrote in a January letter. He told Lynch to expect a visit from a postal inspector, presumably to talk about how close he came to violating federal law.

Lynch apparently got the message, because a few weeks later a check arrived. But it was made out to the wrong agency. Courthouse staff sent it back. In February, a new check arrived, but this time it was made out for the wrong amount: $206, which didn't account for $65 in penalties for arriving late. Last week, the state turned Lynch's case over to a collection agency.

The Oregonian could not reach Lynch for comment.

But Lynch clearly has lost his fight.

Which goes to show, one court manager says, that there are better ways to express one's distaste for a speeding ticket. Such as writing a letter to the judge, since showing up in court would have involved a 175-mile drive for Lynch, said Eric Hall, who oversees the mailroom where ticketed drivers send their payments. Hall said receiving letters -- or even checks -- laced with obscenities is "a common daily occurence."

Other drivers, who come in person, occasionally try to pay their fines with jars full of change. But that is time consuming for staff and forces longer waits for other ticket payers, so Hall's office limits the form of payment to no more than 25 pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters and half dollars.

"People do get really worked up," Hall said.

But, said Hall, a box full of coins and urine is a first in his years on the job.
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3/26/2009 1:05:07 PM

blasphemour
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You handle my ass pennies every day.

3/26/2009 1:06:18 PM

dagreenone
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hahaha, at the 27.30 in postage.

3/26/2009 1:08:51 PM

Willy Nilly
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blasphemour wins.

3/26/2009 1:11:28 PM

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but you shove my ass pennies into your ass

3/26/2009 1:12:03 PM

terpball
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hey, post a link

3/26/2009 1:18:12 PM

Willy Nilly
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http://tinyurl.com/cw5khw

3/26/2009 1:23:22 PM

vonjordan3
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hey wheres the link to this?

3/26/2009 1:24:20 PM

Willy Nilly
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^^

3/26/2009 1:25:08 PM

vonjordan3
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no

3/26/2009 1:27:20 PM

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"Other drivers, who come in person, occasionally try to pay their fines with jars full of change. But that is time consuming for staff and forces longer waits for other ticket payers, so Hall's office limits the form of payment to no more than 25 pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters and half dollars.
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how is it legal to deny accepting any form of currency.... that whole legal tender for all debts public and private thing

3/26/2009 1:27:55 PM

terpball
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way to quote a large block from somewhere you didn't provide a link to... jackass

3/26/2009 1:30:57 PM

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"how is it legal to deny accepting any form of currency.... that whole legal tender for all debts public and private thing"
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"how is it legal to deny accepting any form of currency.... that whole legal tender for all debts public and private thing"
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"how is it legal to deny accepting any form of currency.... that whole legal tender for all debts public and private thing"
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"how is it legal to deny accepting any form of currency.... that whole legal tender for all debts public and private thing"
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"how is it legal to deny accepting any form of currency.... that whole legal tender for all debts public and private thing"
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"how is it legal to deny accepting any form of currency.... that whole legal tender for all debts public and private thing"

3/26/2009 1:43:01 PM

Ragged
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link i clicked no longer works. let me look for it some more

3/26/2009 2:02:19 PM

vonjordan3
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aight

3/26/2009 2:03:59 PM

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3/26/2009 2:28:42 PM

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"There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy."

3/26/2009 2:34:36 PM

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legal tender for all debts public and private

3/26/2009 2:36:58 PM

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WOW

3/26/2009 2:46:03 PM

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"how is it legal to deny accepting any form of currency.... that whole legal tender for all debts public and private thing"


I've only ever seen that printed on bills, never on coins

So this dude finally did what everyone only ever talks about. Good for him.

3/26/2009 2:54:20 PM

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this reminds me of the time i got caught at a red light camera. i send them a picture of a 20 and a 5 dollar bill. they then sent me a picture of hand cuffs. i paid the ticket off the next day

3/26/2009 2:56:30 PM

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^if that really happened, thats hilarious

3/26/2009 2:59:55 PM

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^^lol

3/26/2009 3:04:40 PM

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"There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy."

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That isn't relevant since he sent the payment to a government agency.

3/26/2009 3:05:50 PM

Seotaji
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time for a law that outlaws coins.

3/26/2009 3:54:14 PM

modlin
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If the same policy applies here that the IRS has, they are required to count out your payment with you present if you pay in cash for them to accept it.

So if you pay in twenty thousand pennies, be prepared to watch someone count them out by hand.

3/26/2009 4:07:02 PM

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"this reminds me of the time i got caught at a red light camera. i send them a picture of a 20 and a 5 dollar bill. they then sent me a picture of hand cuffs. i paid the ticket off the next day"


[old]

3/26/2009 4:11:08 PM

ddf583
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I'd start to feel bad if I had to watch some poor clerk getting paid $9 an hour count out 20k piss-soaked pennies.

3/26/2009 4:11:28 PM

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then i would start laughing my ass off again

3/26/2009 4:40:56 PM

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"this reminds me of the time i got caught at a red light camera. i send them a picture of a 20 and a 5 dollar bill. they then sent me a picture of hand cuffs. i paid the ticket off the next day"


i think my grandma forwarded me that joke e-mail about 6 years ago

3/26/2009 6:10:04 PM

volex
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call the police, someone on the internet lied

3/26/2009 6:14:44 PM

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"You handle my ass pennies every day."


winnar

3/26/2009 6:54:56 PM

jbtilley
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"So if you pay in twenty thousand pennies, be prepared to watch someone count them out by hand."


Pretty sure the guy that gathers, and subsequently urinates on 20,000 pennies wouldn't mind.

3/26/2009 7:05:47 PM

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"this reminds me of the time i got caught at a red light camera. i send them a picture of a 20 and a 5 dollar bill. they then sent me a picture of hand cuffs. i paid the ticket off the next day"

3/26/2009 7:24:49 PM

LaserSoup
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See Slave Famous was on to some thing when he dropped that fifty in some shit and then spent it. Next time this guy should wipe his ass with paper money and then pay them with "toilet paper" money.

3/26/2009 7:56:47 PM

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3/26/2009 8:15:04 PM

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3/26/2009 1:06:18 PM

dagreenone
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3/26/2009 1:08:51 PM

Willy Nilly
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3/26/2009 1:11:28 PM

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what the fuck?

3/26/2009 8:21:58 PM

Willy Nilly
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^
what?... You've never heard of ass pennies?

3/26/2009 8:26:20 PM

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nope...if its as gay as "FML" i would rather not know what it is

3/26/2009 8:29:38 PM

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"it's not against the law to mail a box of bodily fluids, as long as it's properly packed and doesn't emit an obnoxious odor."


well that's good to know

3/26/2009 8:32:19 PM

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http://www.bnac.biz/downloads/defcon/13-dcmc-filler-2005/ass_pennies.mpeg

3/26/2009 8:32:40 PM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upright_Citizens_Brigade#Ass_Pennies
http://www.guba.com/watch/2000824003

3/26/2009 8:32:53 PM

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one sec

[Edited on March 26, 2009 at 8:35 PM. Reason : i'll hold off judgement on how gay it is til after i read the wiki]

3/26/2009 8:34:38 PM

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summary: shut the fuck up and watch it or live in ignorance, nobody fucking cares that you're too cool to click the link

3/26/2009 8:35:38 PM

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interest fading...gayness confirmed

3/26/2009 8:40:35 PM

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"Other drivers, who come in person, occasionally try to pay their fines with jars full of change. But that is time consuming for staff and forces longer waits for other ticket payers, so Hall's office limits the form of payment to no more than 25 pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters and half dollars."


Yeah they can't do this. You may have to take them to court, but you will win (unless your state has enacted specific laws to address this). If you are trying to pay in pennies in the first place, the point is probably to waste as much time and money as possible, so taking it to court is a great next step.

3/26/2009 9:24:17 PM

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With the way the government operates I'm surprised they don't just buy up some of the best, most expensive change counting machines money can buy to put in every mom n' pop courthouse in the state.

3/27/2009 12:39:40 PM

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