Why else would women have to shave their legs/armpits, wear make-up, high heels, and tight uncomfortable garments, style their hair, have implanted breasts, and be 10 lbs underweight in order to look appealing to the male gender?

7/15/2009 10:43:42 AM

post modern son.

post modern.

7/15/2009 10:44:26 AM

Self Esteem

and Self Respect

7/15/2009 10:44:52 AM

If you didn't like it you would have dyked out a long time ago.

7/15/2009 10:45:37 AM

No one said you had to do those things, its your choice if you wanna look attractive to the opposite sex or not. As for why we find those attractive I dont know blame nature but thin clean girl >> large hairy girl

7/15/2009 10:46:34 AM

because no one wants to deal with emotional bitching from a fugly chick.

7/15/2009 10:47:33 AM

plz to read thread title.

I think because men have been in charge for so long, and sex was the only way for women to gain power over them, women's looks have been made preeminent over mens.

wtf was wrong w/ our ancestors, letting men be in charge?? ugh.

7/15/2009 10:51:15 AM

Physical Dominance

Rape is the last bastion of dominance

You're kidding yourself if you don't think Cavemen were beating cavewomen with Mammoth Tusks and having their way with them

7/15/2009 10:52:25 AM

true :/ it was all about physical strength.

7/15/2009 10:54:02 AM

weird, i thought being a MAN was the last bastion of dominance

7/15/2009 10:55:53 AM

Big fish eats smaller fish. Big fish wins.

7/15/2009 10:56:48 AM

it's not about culture... it's about biology

if you don't want to be hot and get fucked then don't do those things

acutally... if you're not fugly you'll still probably get fucked... but by lesser men

you see how this goes?

[Edited on July 15, 2009 at 10:59 AM. Reason : .]

7/15/2009 10:58:10 AM

i don't care if a woman shaves or not

by that, i mean that i don't find it unattractive, i just don't find it attractive, either...i'm pretty indifferent...really, what it comes down to is that a woman who is comfortable with who she is (including how she looks) is significantly more attractive than one that caters to the whims of others or conforms to social standards she doesn't actually agree with

what that means is that if a woman WANTS to shave her legs/armpits, wear tight uncomfortable garments, style her hair, have breast implants, or be 10lbs underweight...i mean truly wants to because she herself finds it attractive and it makes her feel good (not because of how others view her, but because of how she views herself), that's attractive, too

7/15/2009 11:00:02 AM

i don't care if a woman shaves or not

by that, i mean that i don't find it unattractive, i just don't find it attractive, either...i'm pretty indifferent...really, what it comes down to is that a woman who is comfortable with who she is (including how she looks) is significantly more attractive than one that caters to the whims of others or conforms to social standards she doesn't actually agree with

what that means is that if a woman WANTS to shave her legs/armpits, wear tight uncomfortable garments, style her hair, have breast implants, or be 10lbs underweight...i mean truly wants to because she herself finds it attractive and it makes her feel good (not because of how others view her, but because of how she views herself), that's attractive, too

7/15/2009 11:00:02 AM

i don't care if a woman shaves or not

by that, i mean that i don't find it unattractive, i just don't find it attractive, either...i'm pretty indifferent...really, what it comes down to is that a woman who is comfortable with who she is (including how she looks) is significantly more attractive than one that caters to the whims of others or conforms to social standards she doesn't actually agree with

what that means is that if a woman WANTS to shave her legs/armpits, wear tight uncomfortable garments, style her hair, have breast implants, or be 10lbs underweight...i mean truly wants to because she herself finds it attractive and it makes her feel good (not because of how others view her, but because of how she views herself), that's attractive, too

7/15/2009 11:00:02 AM

i don't care if a woman shaves or not

by that, i mean that i don't find it unattractive, i just don't find it attractive, either...i'm pretty indifferent...really, what it comes down to is that a woman who is comfortable with who she is (including how she looks) is significantly more attractive than one that caters to the whims of others or conforms to social standards she doesn't actually agree with

what that means is that if a woman WANTS to shave her legs/armpits, wear tight uncomfortable garments, style her hair, have breast implants, or be 10lbs underweight...i mean truly wants to because she herself finds it attractive and it makes her feel good (not because of how others view her, but because of how she views herself), that's attractive, too

7/15/2009 11:00:02 AM

i don't care if a woman shaves or not

by that, i mean that i don't find it unattractive, i just don't find it attractive, either...i'm pretty indifferent...really, what it comes down to is that a woman who is comfortable with who she is (including how she looks) is significantly more attractive than one that caters to the whims of others or conforms to social standards she doesn't actually agree with

what that means is that if a woman WANTS to shave her legs/armpits, wear tight uncomfortable garments, style her hair, have breast implants, or be 10lbs underweight...i mean truly wants to because she herself finds it attractive and it makes her feel good (not because of how others view her, but because of how she views herself), that's attractive, too

7/15/2009 11:00:02 AM

i don't care if a woman shaves or not

by that, i mean that i don't find it unattractive, i just don't find it attractive, either...i'm pretty indifferent...really, what it comes down to is that a woman who is comfortable with who she is (including how she looks) is significantly more attractive than one that caters to the whims of others or conforms to social standards she doesn't actually agree with

what that means is that if a woman WANTS to shave her legs/armpits, wear tight uncomfortable garments, style her hair, have breast implants, or be 10lbs underweight...i mean truly wants to because she herself finds it attractive and it makes her feel good (not because of how others view her, but because of how she views herself), that's attractive, too

7/15/2009 11:00:02 AM

i don't care if a woman shaves or not

by that, i mean that i don't find it unattractive, i just don't find it attractive, either...i'm pretty indifferent...really, what it comes down to is that a woman who is comfortable with who she is (including how she looks) is significantly more attractive than one that caters to the whims of others or conforms to social standards she doesn't actually agree with

what that means is that if a woman WANTS to shave her legs/armpits, wear tight uncomfortable garments, style her hair, have breast implants, or be 10lbs underweight...i mean truly wants to because she herself finds it attractive and it makes her feel good (not because of how others view her, but because of how she views herself), that's attractive, too

7/15/2009 11:00:02 AM

i don't care if a woman shaves or not

by that, i mean that i don't find it unattractive, i just don't find it attractive, either...i'm pretty indifferent...really, what it comes down to is that a woman who is comfortable with who she is (including how she looks) is significantly more attractive than one that caters to the whims of others or conforms to social standards she doesn't actually agree with

what that means is that if a woman WANTS to shave her legs/armpits, wear tight uncomfortable garments, style her hair, have breast implants, or be 10lbs underweight...i mean truly wants to because she herself finds it attractive and it makes her feel good (not because of how others view her, but because of how she views herself), that's attractive, too

7/15/2009 11:00:02 AM

i don't care if a woman shaves or not

by that, i mean that i don't find it unattractive, i just don't find it attractive, either...i'm pretty indifferent...really, what it comes down to is that a woman who is comfortable with who she is (including how she looks) is significantly more attractive than one that caters to the whims of others or conforms to social standards she doesn't actually agree with

what that means is that if a woman WANTS to shave her legs/armpits, wear tight uncomfortable garments, style her hair, have breast implants, or be 10lbs underweight...i mean truly wants to because she herself finds it attractive and it makes her feel good (not because of how others view her, but because of how she views herself), that's attractive, too

7/15/2009 11:00:02 AM

i don't care if a woman shaves or not

by that, i mean that i don't find it unattractive, i just don't find it attractive, either...i'm pretty indifferent...really, what it comes down to is that a woman who is comfortable with who she is (including how she looks) is significantly more attractive than one that caters to the whims of others or conforms to social standards she doesn't actually agree with

what that means is that if a woman WANTS to shave her legs/armpits, wear tight uncomfortable garments, style her hair, have breast implants, or be 10lbs underweight...i mean truly wants to because she herself finds it attractive and it makes her feel good (not because of how others view her, but because of how she views herself), that's attractive, too

7/15/2009 11:00:02 AM

i don't care if a woman shaves or not

by that, i mean that i don't find it unattractive, i just don't find it attractive, either...i'm pretty indifferent...really, what it comes down to is that a woman who is comfortable with who she is (including how she looks) is significantly more attractive than one that caters to the whims of others or conforms to social standards she doesn't actually agree with

what that means is that if a woman WANTS to shave her legs/armpits, wear tight uncomfortable garments, style her hair, have breast implants, or be 10lbs underweight...i mean truly wants to because she herself finds it attractive and it makes her feel good (not because of how others view her, but because of how she views herself), that's attractive, too

7/15/2009 11:00:02 AM

i don't care if a woman shaves or not

by that, i mean that i don't find it unattractive, i just don't find it attractive, either...i'm pretty indifferent...really, what it comes down to is that a woman who is comfortable with who she is (including how she looks) is significantly more attractive than one that caters to the whims of others or conforms to social standards she doesn't actually agree with

what that means is that if a woman WANTS to shave her legs/armpits, wear tight uncomfortable garments, style her hair, have breast implants, or be 10lbs underweight...i mean truly wants to because she herself finds it attractive and it makes her feel good (not because of how others view her, but because of how she views herself), that's attractive, too

7/15/2009 11:00:02 AM

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"Why else would women have to shave their legs/armpits, wear make-up, high heels, and tight uncomfortable garments, style their hair, have implanted breasts, and be 10 lbs underweight in order to look appealing to the male gender?"

You don't have to do any of this actually. As strange as it may be, I have actually dated someone who pretty much did absolutely none of the things you've just mentioned. Of course, you will have to put up with a person like myself if you choose to live this way though.

7/15/2009 11:00:24 AM

lol

holy hell batman!

ahahahha

FUCKING FIX THE WEBSITE LORDS of TDUB

7/15/2009 11:00:37 AM

THIS GUY THINKS SO

7/15/2009 11:01:44 AM

The basic question is: What do you do for dick ?

If you pretty yourself up, then yeah, you're a slave to the system, but its a nessecary evil in this country

If you come as you are, then you're willing sacrifice quality for self-comfort and its a lifestyle choice you're comfortable with

Either way, the male is the winner

7/15/2009 11:01:51 AM

....Like I've thought to myself a million times:
If women would stop fucking all the sexist jerks, the problem would take care of itself.
Most of my exs did none of these: "wear make-up, high heels, and tight uncomfortable garments, style their hair, have implanted breasts, and be 10 lbs underweight", and a couple didn't shave. It didn't stop me from fucking their brains out. I'm attracted to real women -- not these cookie-cutter "plastic doll" women.

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"it's not about culture... it's about biology"

Actually, no. Short-term maybe, but not universally.

Quote :

"wtf was wrong w/ our ancestors, letting men be in charge?? ugh."

Quote :

"Physical Dominance"

Quote :

"true :/ it was all about physical strength."

It just randomly turned out that way. Anthropologists agree that sexual dimorphism didn't always exist. There were mostly egalitarian and peaceful societies for thousands of years before "dominator culture"* took over. Now, society has continued to perfect itself with the realization of gender equality. Of course, there will be many males that will have to be dragged kicking and screaming to adopt and accept that there is no such thing as universal gender roles...
(*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominator_culture)

[Edited on July 15, 2009 at 11:06 AM. Reason : ]

7/15/2009 11:04:54 AM

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"Either way, the male is the winner"

God I love these kinds of outcomes.


^And wow, the format of that shit post is too crazy to read. In case you decide to fix it, I've saved a copy because I want all to see this shit. ALL TO SEE. THANK YOU!


....Like I've thought to myself a million times:
If women would stop fucking all the sexist jerks, the problem would take care of itself.
Most of my exs did none of these: "wear make-up, high heels, and tight uncomfortable garments, style their hair, have implanted breasts, and be 10 lbs underweight", and a couple didn't shave. It didn't stop me from fucking their brains out. I'm attracted to real women -- not these cookie-cutter "plastic doll" women.

Quote :

"it's not about culture... it's about biology"

Actually, no. Short-term maybe, but not universally.

Quote :

"wtf was wrong w/ our ancestors, letting men be in charge?? ugh."

Quote :

"Physical Dominance"

Quote :

"true :/ it was all about physical strength."

It just randomly turned out that way. Anthropologist know that sexual dimorphism didn't always exist. There were mostly egalitarian and peace societies for thousands of years before "dominator culture"* took over. Now, society has continued to perfect itself with the realization of gender equality. Of course, there will be many males that will have to be dragged kicking and screaming to adopt and accept that there is no such thing as universal gender roles...
(*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominator_culture)

[Edited on July 15, 2009 at 11:05 AM. Reason : ]

7/15/2009 11:05:20 AM

I think it's time we open up this discussion to the importance of sandwich making.

7/15/2009 11:06:39 AM

get that weak ass reduction theory wikipedia bullshit out of here dude

7/15/2009 11:06:50 AM

I fucked one girl who didn't shave her pits

She was French Canadian, but thats no excuse

Its such a revolting shock to the system to see that swath of hair, since we been conditioned to think that its heinous

She was pretty, but not a knockout...I give the overall experience a 6.5/10

7/15/2009 11:11:13 AM

^^
What?

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"Reduction theory or 'Zero theory', is a new-wave philosophy which focuses on the non-continuation of human life through choice. Far from promoting suicide, it in fact asks those sharing the viewpoint to try to live happy, full lives and only asks one other thing... to not give birth to new life. Believers follow the idea that there is no God or true purpose other than that created by each individual. As there is no greater purpose, Reduction theorists assert that the best use of an individuals life is to live a 'righteous' path which focuses on creating happiness and reducing pain for themselves and others. As there is no believed reason to exist, it follows there is no reason for following generations to exist and as a result, this leads to the theory of non-procreation."

What the fuck does non-procreation or non-continuation of human life have to do with my point about the non-universality of gender roles? Or are you just trying to sound smart?

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"Its such a revolting shock to the system to see that swath of hair, since we been conditioned to think that its heinous"

Exactly. If society abandons this meaningless sexist conditioning, everything balances out. Stop fucking teaching kids the old bullshit sexist ways of the past... okay thanks.

[Edited on July 15, 2009 at 11:14 AM. Reason : ]

7/15/2009 11:12:11 AM

^^ Yeah, that actually is not an excuse at all. Like I said, I've dated a no-shave, but the reasoning was slightly better than "I'm a french canadian".

7/15/2009 11:12:38 AM

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"Why else would women have to shave their legs/armpits, wear make-up, high heels, and tight uncomfortable garments, style their hair, have implanted breasts, and be 10 lbs underweight in order to look appealing to the male gender?"

This is the easiest question of all to answer. The reason for this is because women insatiable attention seekers who actively compete against other females in other to rank themselves against one another. you have no one to blame but each other for this unfortunate fate.

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"wtf was wrong w/ our ancestors, letting men be in charge?? ugh."

it probably had something to do with the fact that men were capable of being decisive and pragmatic during periods where those traits had the most influence. over all the continents and all various societies there is hardly a culture that has women as the dominant role. why do you think that is?

7/15/2009 11:17:49 AM

Gross

7/15/2009 11:19:07 AM

But if you had never seen a girl before and had never been told that shaving is the right way

and you say a set of twins, identical except one had hairy pits and one did not

Do you think you'd find the shaven one more attractive

I'd like to think i would, but I'm not sure...maybe I would think it was weird and unattractive

7/15/2009 11:19:29 AM

i'd go for the shaven one, i feel.

i found shaved vaginas significantly more attractive than hairy ones from the start, even before i knew of a hairy vagina stigma.

7/15/2009 11:22:27 AM

I think if a guy grew up without knowing the difference, he'd probably choose the hairy one since it's more familiar. lack of hair means they're not mature and not fertile.

7/15/2009 11:32:47 AM

Haha, you're thinking too hard about this. The male brain works like this:

"ME WAN FUCK."

7/15/2009 11:35:11 AM

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"I think if a guy grew up without knowing the difference, he'd probably choose the hairy one since it's more familiar. lack of hair means they're not mature and not fertile."

Or it signifies years of fertility left. You ever think of that Dr. Fucking Phil?

7/15/2009 11:37:59 AM

its no secret that im a huge fan of bushes

i want to be able to nestle a dixie cup full of koolaid in that bad boy and not worry about it tipping over

7/15/2009 11:38:24 AM

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"Or it signifies years of fertility left. You ever think of that Dr. Fucking Phil?"

Nothing says fertility like a bald, 8-year-old vagina

OLD ENOUGH TO BLEED, OLD ENOUGH TO BREED BABY!

7/15/2009 11:48:00 AM

both sides have things imposed on them that are not idea. the 10lb's under thing isn't our fault. it didn't used to be like that and i am not totally convinced that men got together and decided that acceptable weight should be smaller. We have to upkeep our hair as well. tight uncomfortable garments aren't an all the time thing unless you want it to be. eventhing we have to wear doesn't scream comfort either. i won't take the blame for implants either because 9/10 a girl can get attention with or without them from men. you shave your arm pits... we pay out the ass and buy nice things. each side has their own peacocking. i just wish ours wasn't so expensive lol.

7/15/2009 11:49:08 AM

Dont forget about making us Sammiches

7/15/2009 11:52:30 AM

I only impose my culture on girls, not everyone

7/15/2009 12:00:24 PM

You do realize that women are a part of "their" culture, right? There are not separate cultures for males and females.

7/15/2009 12:05:07 PM

if only we could hear quagmire02's opinon on the matter

7/15/2009 12:11:03 PM

SET EM UP

7/15/2009 12:11:41 PM