Humanity loses

7/27/2009 5:26:31 PM

THE NFL TRIPPIN THEY NEED TO LET MIKE VICK PLAY HE ALREADY BEEN IN JAIL 2 YEARS DAMN WTF IM UPSET

7/27/2009 5:27:31 PM

caninity

7/27/2009 5:27:33 PM

Football > dogs

7/27/2009 5:29:10 PM

few things in this country are more important than the NFL. i'm not even half joking.

7/27/2009 5:30:21 PM

Fuck Vick. I hope he dies.

dogs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> football

7/27/2009 5:30:24 PM

7/27/2009 5:31:59 PM

man no one laughed when i posted this, but this is the funniest chop i've ever done. (this is a free thread, right?)



[Edited on July 27, 2009 at 5:34 PM. Reason : IT WAS A BIT OF A CHOP CONTEST, I DIDN'T JUST DO IT ON MY OWN, FOR THE RECORD]

7/27/2009 5:33:35 PM

There's a reason no one laughed the first time.

That chop fucking sucks

7/27/2009 5:36:10 PM

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"Fuck Vick. I hope he dies."

i love football as much as the next guy, but this motherfucker is sick and he should never be allowed to do anything that brings him pleasure (football) or allows him to make millions. he does not deserve it, whatsoever.

poor puppies...

7/27/2009 5:37:14 PM

i want to see this fuck play and fail again at life

7/27/2009 5:37:24 PM

^^why? he paid his debt to society. Jesus fuck, he'd have been better off assaulting humans.

Note: i am in no way condoning what he did. it was terrible

note 2: it's sad i have to include the first fucking note, you lunatics.

[Edited on July 27, 2009 at 5:40 PM. Reason : .]

7/27/2009 5:39:52 PM

^^
yeah... If he were guaranteed to fail even harder after returning to the game.... that'd be worth it.

[Edited on July 27, 2009 at 5:42 PM. Reason : ]

7/27/2009 5:40:27 PM

i love dogs as much as the next guy, but this motherfucker is so sick on the field and he should never be allowed to do anything else (like baseball) or do anything to get back in jail. we do not deserve it, whatsoever.

PS Go Falcons

7/27/2009 5:42:27 PM

i hope he gets a team

and then his very first game i hope a linebacker with a fondness for dogs snaps his fibula

7/27/2009 5:42:37 PM

i'm sorry black people. u guys got OJ acquitted. BUT u cant win em' all.

7/27/2009 5:43:38 PM

oh wait, i guess you can.

7/27/2009 5:44:44 PM

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"i want to see this fuck play and fail again at life"

7/27/2009 5:45:07 PM

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"but this motherfucker is so sick on the field"

he kindof sucks, though.

7/27/2009 5:45:45 PM

He will manage to violate his probation; /thread

7/27/2009 5:47:35 PM

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"why? he paid his debt to society. Jesus fuck, he'd have been better off assaulting humans."

winner winner, chicken dinner

7/27/2009 5:48:38 PM

I thought he was completely done...guess that was just jail time. What does he have left?

7/27/2009 5:49:10 PM

Peter you just don't like him anymore because he's not gonna play for the falcons

7/27/2009 6:14:41 PM

The Constitution guarantees you the right to play in the NFL!

ps: I heard some people in Connecticut (like 19 people) got arrested as part of a canary fighting ring

I shit you not

7/27/2009 6:17:44 PM

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"he paid his debt to society."

What the hell does this even mean?
I've gotten really sick of hearing guys on some of the radio shows I listen to use this as justification for why he should be allowed back in the NFL. So the fuck what if he "paid his debt to society?" The NFL exists to make money, and if they thought letting him back in the league would be a PR hit that would lose them money in the end, they wouldn't have done it.

I don't care how long someone spends in jail "paying their debt to society." They still did what they did and people can and will judge them for it.

7/27/2009 6:23:57 PM

There are lots of companies out there where if you got locked up 2 years for a felony, they wouldn't even consider re-hiring you.

Lucky for Vick, the NFL is not one of those companies.

7/27/2009 6:25:34 PM

^^ people, in general, think with their puny hearts and emotions too....which is something that should be something independent of the law

in this case, "he's paid his debt to society" mean that he has served the punishment decided for him by the laws of the country in which he lives. having endured that punishment, as the laws say, he does not deserve any further punishment for the crime that he has committed.



*as I learned before, I have to say that I don't condone what Vick did. and because people on TWW are fucking morons, I'll probably have to keep saying it.

[Edited on July 27, 2009 at 6:28 PM. Reason : s]

7/27/2009 6:27:32 PM

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"he does not deserve any further punishment for the crime that he has committed."

says who?

7/27/2009 6:28:35 PM

I think that if you quote the entire sentence that I typed instead of reading only what you want to read, you'll answer your own question...

7/27/2009 6:29:19 PM

I don't think he's a very good QB, average maybe, but he shouldn't have to do anything else. He's a free man, let him live and make his money.

7/27/2009 6:31:52 PM

Nobody is preventing him from living and making money

But playing in the NFL isn't a right, its a privilege

And he's getting re-instated in Week 6

7/27/2009 6:32:31 PM

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"he does not deserve any further punishment for the crime that he has committed. "

I agree, but it all comes down to what you view as punishment. I don't view a private organization refusing to hire someone because of their criminal history punishment, which it seems is the assertion of a great deal of people concerning this issue. On the other side of the issue you have people thinking he should die alone and penniless. Then you have rational people that understand that any decision made by the NFL or any other employer regarding an applicant with a criminal history will be based on the bottom line.

7/27/2009 6:41:13 PM

^^exactly

it's not my decision
it's not the law's decision
it's not your decision

it's the decision of NFL owners if they want to let him play in their league
it's the decision of team owners whether or not if they'll allow the team to pick him up

and it's my opinion that the NFL is there to recruit talent to make them money. Vick has proven himself on the field, and I think that he will be back.



^ haha, my views concerning discriminating against people because of history in terms of employment, housing, etc...varies, and probably wouldn't be popular here on TWW. I'm not going to name any names, but over the course of my fantastic TWW tenure, I've found that many people are very much flawed in their sociological beliefs and reasons for punishment. I will say that I don't really believe in using punishment as revenge. But...it's a can of worms I'm not even going to open....
I do agree with what you just posted there for the most part though

7/27/2009 6:42:16 PM

i know this is [old], but i still LOL when i think about all them black folks showing up in protest of accusations against him saying the law was just hating on a black man and he was clearly innocent

then he pleaded guilty and al sharpton went {fuck...}

7/27/2009 6:45:12 PM

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"he paid his debt to society. Jesus fuck, he'd have been better off assaulting humans. "

7/27/2009 6:45:55 PM

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"the NFL is there to recruit talent to make them money"

This is a bit more complex though. While before the dog fighting stuff ever came out in the news Vick was certainly a high NFL commodity as far as TV ratings, jersey sales, etc, its a bit different now. While you still have plenty of people who like him and would cheer for them, if the NFL is about making money, what if some of their paying sponsors don't want to be associated with Vick? He's pretty much already blown his shot a getting ANY sponsorships anymore

Although I think thats something thats going to have a more direct effect on the team that signs him as opposed to the league as a whole.

[Edited on July 27, 2009 at 6:50 PM. Reason : .]

7/27/2009 6:47:23 PM

to answer your question, I think the paying sponsors get something out of the advertisement too. To me, that's a pretty big dollar sign to throw away on the fundamental reason of "I know he's served his time. I know he's apologized....but I just don't believe him and/or I hate him"

7/27/2009 6:51:43 PM

My main issue with the whole thing was that he made millions from his contract and endorsements but that wasn't enough.

7/27/2009 6:54:27 PM

Kobe was found not guilty but he didn't get all his sponsorships back that he had before. Vick was found guilty. For right or for wrong, public image and perception tend to steer whether or not some companies or brands want to be associated with someone who was convicted of a felony, and especially any type of company that caters to pet-owners. I can see some people or companies paying him to kind of make fun of himself and then try and give a good message to the community, but I think the Nikes and Gatorades aren't going to come anywhere near him.

7/27/2009 6:55:43 PM

how do you mean acraw?

I don't know...I'm merely guessing....
but I don't think that he engaged in dog fighting to make money. It was a sport for him, just as it has been a sport for centuries.

7/27/2009 6:56:12 PM

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"Peter you just don't like him anymore because he's not gonna play for the falcons"

I didn't say I don't like him. He's damn entertaining, but when/if he doesn't sign with the Falcons I'll root against him when he lines up across from them.

7/27/2009 7:00:06 PM

I'm guessing EMCE is cool with dogfighting, regardless of what he says.

7/27/2009 7:00:58 PM

_______ has been going on for centuries.

I've heard this line of argument before for just about everything.

And I'm sorry, just doesn't hold much weight.

7/27/2009 7:03:44 PM

I don't agree with that argument but I also don't think Vick was dogfighting primarily for the money which is what I think EMCE's point was

7/27/2009 7:05:27 PM

^^you're clearly missing the point.

[Edited on July 27, 2009 at 7:05 PM. Reason : .]

7/27/2009 7:05:31 PM

that's fine. I'm not saying that he should be allowed to do it, because it's been going on for centuries.

I'm just saying, I'm willing to bet that he engaged in dog fighting as sport instead of as a way to supplement his income.

7/27/2009 7:06:51 PM

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"My main issue with the whole thing was that he made millions from his contract and endorsements but that wasn't enough."

That's like saying, you have an issue with Slave Famous's sports betting because he evidently already makes enough to live comfortably on.

[Edited on July 27, 2009 at 7:09 PM. Reason : not to be all over SF's nuts, nor to say sports betting is the same thing as dog fighting]

7/27/2009 7:08:37 PM

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"he paid his debt to society."

7/27/2009 7:36:03 PM

he paid his debt to society, but the nfl is a business.

vick is free to work for whomever he wants, as long as they want him.

he doesnt have the "right" to get back into the nfl

7/27/2009 7:42:54 PM

but when's he gonna pay his debt to The Humane Society

7/27/2009 7:43:17 PM