i have gotten 23 letters from lawyers about it. thats wild. and they've sent offers as low as 35 bucks to get it taken care of.

if i didn't have a lawyer already... well, i'm still tempted to do this: call them all and get them in a bidding war and see if one would do it for like 5 bucks.

also i think if someone could find a way to access each attorney's win-loss record in each county in the state, and compile lawyer rankings on a website, they could make a fuckload of money. too bad that info isn't exactly public record. you'd have to have someone sit in every courtroom every day for like a year to get good numbers.

hmm... anyone want a job sitting in a courtroom all day? take the court calendar and for each entry i need the attorney's name and the case disposition. what is your salary requirement to do this

10/7/2009 8:16:37 AM

there are peer-review websites for lawyers already.

10/7/2009 8:17:31 AM

One of my Girlfriend's really good friends is a lawyer in High Point. He will get it taken care of for free if you want. Just let me know.

10/7/2009 8:18:29 AM

pareto charts by case type and effectiveness

i could see where that'd be nice to have

toggle the law firm, rechart

10/7/2009 8:19:33 AM

$50K

10/7/2009 8:26:16 AM

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"there are peer-review websites for lawyers already."

oh, i have no doubt that there are. but i don't think there are any that say, for example, that:

Lawyer A has taken 348 speeding tickets this year.
He got 25% dismissed without a trial
He got 50% reduced without a trial
He took 25% to trial
- He got a not guilty verdict 89% of the time

THEN you go with the personal references and stuff. People tend to lie, where numbers do not.

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"One of my Girlfriend's really good friends is a lawyer in High Point. He will get it taken care of for free if you want. Just let me know."

I appreciate that, but I've already got the best lawyer in Guilford County and he is family so I will get a discount (likely free for a speeding ticket).

Sounds like Eric has High Point covered, but if anyone needs a good attorney in Greensboro with almost 30 years experience, who is active in politics as well and knows everyone involved in the legal system here, shoot me a PM and I'll get you a referral.

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"pareto charts by case type and effectiveness i could see where that'd be nice to have toggle the law firm, rechart"

yes it would definitely be a great tool, but the datamining is gonna be tough. i'm really gonna try to do this

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"$50K"

I was thinking 35-45k to start, maybe with upward adjustments if the hours end up being long or if the work ends up being harder than expected. But definitely the people who come in at the beginning can safely expect a minimum of 50k once the company starts turning a profit

[Edited on October 7, 2009 at 8:31 AM. Reason : AND IF ANY OF YOU STEAL MY IDEA I WILL HURT YOU]

10/7/2009 8:29:50 AM

1. Steal jackleg's idea.
2. Sit in a courtroom everyday for a year.
3. Compile my findings into an easily accessible pay to play website.
4. Profit, until I'm sued by Jackleg's epic lawyer for copyright enfringement.

10/7/2009 8:32:23 AM

Imagine the kind of mail you'd get if you killed someone.

[Edited on October 7, 2009 at 8:35 AM. Reason : got =! get]

10/7/2009 8:35:19 AM

Quote :

"1. Steal jackleg's idea. 2. Sit in a courtroom everyday for a year. 3. Compile my findings into an easily accessible pay to play website. 4. Profit, until I'm sued by Jackleg's epic lawyer for copyright enfringement."

1.
2. there are way too many courtrooms to do it alone, or i'd just find a way to work nights and go after this myself!
3. the website will be a free service, the money comes from lawyers paying you to fudge their numbers
4. i only have lawyers for these categories: criminal, civil / tort type stuff, divorce (lol not what you think), real estate, taxes. don't have anyone that specializes in patent law or whatever.

BUT MAYBE I NEED ONE

10/7/2009 8:36:40 AM

eh you'd be fine

BUT FILE THAT PAPER PATENT NGA

10/7/2009 8:37:45 AM

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"Imagine the kind of mail you'd get if you killed someone."

i got charged with 2nd degree kidnapping once like 6 or 7 years ago, and i got a bunch of mail from people who wanted to defend me. but that was more like $25,000 they wanted and not $25

but the speeding ticket definitely brought more mail.

^ as for anyone stealing my great idea, it would happen anyways after i made the site. i'm confident that my site will be the best of its kind, mainly because a) i'm smarter and b) i'd take better care of my researchers and developers

10/7/2009 8:37:52 AM

10/7/2009 8:40:04 AM

1. Steal jackleg's idea.
2. get fucked up cause $leg don't play dat

10/7/2009 8:40:18 AM

i got letters from lawyers two days after i got a ticket for an expired registration. the pamphlets they mailed were filled with ominous shit trying to scare you into hiring a lawyer.

fucking lawyers

10/7/2009 8:41:34 AM

When is your court date and do you know what judge you have?

10/7/2009 8:56:37 AM

is representation not part of public domain info?

10/7/2009 9:02:18 AM

november 10th, but i'd have to check the ticket to see which judge. aint got it with me

10/7/2009 9:04:41 AM

I was actually asking that question to jackleg, since he lives in Guilford County and I will probably know the judge.

10/7/2009 9:05:45 AM

10/7/2009 9:11:03 AM

when i got my first speeding ticket, i got a bunch of lawyers sending me shit

i sent letters back asking them to leave me alone and any further correspondence would be harrassment

none of the same ones sent me a letter for my next ticket 2 years later

10/7/2009 10:06:04 AM

wow no wonder you fucked an obese chick and she had your child.

what a gross and egregious waste of your time...

10/7/2009 1:25:35 PM

BURN

10/7/2009 1:27:07 PM

Sometimes I don't see justification in getting a lawyer; you pay them and they make a deal in court but most of the time you still get stiffed with court cost and/or fine + lawyer fees just to plead to a reduced charge. Seems like it would be easier to just pay the court cost + fine for a speeding conviction than pay an ton of money for improper equipment.

10/7/2009 1:39:46 PM

^INSURANCE

10/7/2009 1:50:43 PM

tell him steve dave!

10/7/2009 1:51:33 PM

you people

we dont send those letters, if you hire a letter writer good luck with the newb or crappy attorney

10/7/2009 2:38:57 PM

Quote :

"i got charged with 2nd degree kidnapping once like 6 or 7 years ago"

There's a story here but no one asked. I assume I'm the only one to not know it/stupid enough to ask?

10/7/2009 2:50:32 PM

^^plenty of (especially smaller town) well-to-do attorneys that have been practicing for years still send letters for business. the firm i work for now doesn't send letters, but the one i used to work for did. they started out in a small town, and were expanding to raleigh. there were ads in all the familiar places, but the letters helped too. the firm was far from a new or crappy law firm.

[Edited on October 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM. Reason : ]

10/7/2009 2:52:34 PM

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"bidding war "

lol im pretty sure they dont care. because the next person that calls after you is gonna hire them

10/7/2009 3:02:33 PM

^ yea our fees are set

Quote :

"^^plenty of (especially smaller town) well-to-do attorneys that have been practicing for years still send letters for business. the firm i work for now doesn't send letters, but the one i used to work for did. they started out in a small town, and were expanding to raleigh. there were ads in all the familiar places, but the letters helped too. the firm was far from a new or crappy law firm."

im talking for traffic and crimial, and i guess i should have said cheap. cause most of the letter writers are cheap, ie they go the first day and get what they can

Quote :

"Sometimes I don't see justification in getting a lawyer; you pay them and they make a deal in court but most of the time you still get stiffed with court cost and/or fine + lawyer fees just to plead to a reduced charge. Seems like it would be easier to just pay the court cost + fine for a speeding conviction than pay an ton of money for improper equipment."

ha then have your insurance go up and pay crazy higher rates. and fyi wake county doesnt except and improper equipment plea

[Edited on October 7, 2009 at 3:16 PM. Reason : asfdsaa]

10/7/2009 3:13:33 PM

ah-ha! now that i can agree with

10/7/2009 3:16:31 PM

^ yea i didnt think you worked in criminal and traffic

10/7/2009 3:17:07 PM

Well du'h about insurance, but some convictions for speeding don't carry insurance points depending on your driving history.

10/7/2009 3:49:46 PM

^^it's a hodge podge law firm performing in a variety of practice areas. the attorney i work for specifically is collections, commercial lit, and PI

10/7/2009 4:01:06 PM

IF YOU DONT WANT SPEEDING TICKETS THEN DONT BREAK THE LAW

10/7/2009 4:05:19 PM

oh look some n00b had to wait till i was offline to take a shot at me

a big man, you are (at your computer)

10/7/2009 4:16:52 PM

wait, are you calling me a noob?

10/7/2009 4:23:01 PM

no, im not

n00b

10/7/2009 4:28:11 PM

kthx

10/7/2009 4:29:19 PM

Quote :

"some convictions for speeding don't carry insurance points depending on your driving history."

only if its reduced, and then only if you dont get any other convictions for 12 mos

10/7/2009 4:33:00 PM

djeternal, all i know right now is that the ticket says the court date is 12-8 at 1:30 pm, i guess it's greensboro's version of disposition court

i also got a letter from the clerk of superior court saying that my court date had changed, but they "changed it" to 12-8 at 1:30pm

when it comes online, i'll try to find the judge

10/7/2009 4:37:58 PM