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10/23/2009 10:37:59 AM

evan...

honeybear...

seriously?

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10/23/2009 10:39:03 AM

we told you not to have sex with that pig no matter how curly his dick was!

10/23/2009 10:39:04 AM

play in the mud, get swine flu

or something

10/23/2009 10:39:42 AM

ah, i didn't think about searching

so fuck it

10/23/2009 10:40:56 AM

Aren't you like EMS or something?

How the fuck does that happen?

10/23/2009 10:41:12 AM

...

if ANYTHING, working EMS makes you even more likely to get it

do you think all healthcare providers are immune to viruses?

10/23/2009 10:44:52 AM

feel better shnookums

10/23/2009 10:45:34 AM

thanks boo

10/23/2009 10:46:12 AM

No I just figured you'd be a lot more careful. That's all.

10/23/2009 10:55:35 AM

Well that sucks dude.

10/23/2009 10:56:24 AM

^^that really doesn't have much to do with it.

10/23/2009 11:00:09 AM

we've got five people out the last few days with it.

I REALLY hope I wasn't exposed while they were here, supposed to fly out to costa rica tomorrow

10/23/2009 11:05:58 AM

you wake up one morning with a sort of stuffy nose and you think you have a cold

then it gets worse as the day goes on

you go home, go to sleep

wake up the next morning, and bam... it hits you like a ton of bricks

10/23/2009 11:08:29 AM

so you did the test in the hospital and it was confirmed?

10/23/2009 11:13:18 AM

si

although that test really isn't too accurate

10/23/2009 11:15:16 AM

Yeah, but there has to be enough of the pathogen present, plus susceptibility to the pathogen, plus an area of entry, plus complete lack of proper Care etiquette from the EMS personnel. Usually EMS etiquette allows for very safe environmental controls. At least that's what I just learned in my First Aid/AED & Adult/Child/Infant CPR class from the Red Cross, lol. I guess in reality, shit happens and swine flu is no exception.

[Edited on October 23, 2009 at 11:16 AM. Reason : -]

10/23/2009 11:15:16 AM

^^yeah, the doctor told me it was 40-50% accurate. so if it came back negative, i still probably had it.

did you get Tamiflu? cuz he wouldn't give me that stuff when i got diagnosed

10/23/2009 11:16:23 AM

RIP evan, we hardly knew ye

10/23/2009 11:16:38 AM

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"although that test really isn't too accurate"

so I am confused...how do they know when someone actually has it? I am not talking about the nose swab regular flu test.

10/23/2009 11:16:44 AM

a) enough of the pathogen present: not too hard to do, especially with the flu virus.
b) susceptibility to the pathogen: guess i'm susceptible, lol... plus i'm sorta in the target age range.
c) area of entry: again, with the flu, it's not all that hard... it's an aggressive little fucker.
d) what the hell is check, call, care?

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"I guess in reality, shit happens and swine flu is no exception."

ding ding ding

10/23/2009 11:18:39 AM

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"so I am confused...how do they know when someone actually has it? I am not talking about the nose swab regular flu test."

mostly based on symptoms. currently, if you have "flu-like symptoms" it is assumed you have H1N1 until proven otherwise. there's no harm in doing so.

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"did you get Tamiflu?"

nah, there's really no need.

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"RIP evan, we hardly knew ye"

10/23/2009 11:20:57 AM

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"did you get Tamiflu? cuz he wouldn't give me that stuff when i got diagnosed "

In 99.6% of tests done with H1N1, it was Tamiflu resistant. Meaning it did not have any effect.

When Relenza was used, it was 100% effective. Meaning it did have a measurable effect, but there is no guarantee that it won't mutate and become resistant (although there is no known resistant strain as of yet).

The seasonal flu vaccine is BS. Not sure about the H1N1 vaccine, but I figure it's the same (since there are multiple strains out there).

10/23/2009 11:34:42 AM

the seasonal flu vaccine is not BS.

they do an analysis of the most likely strains to be prevalent in the upcoming flu season. yes, they're not going to get it right 100% of the time, but it's sure as hell better than nothing. same with the H1N1 vaccine.

10/23/2009 11:37:05 AM

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" The seasonal flu vaccine is BS."

i'd like to subscribe to your newsletter. i never get flu vaccines. mostly because i'm a cheapass, but also because i don't often get sick in the first place. my wife and daughter got it this year and have been sick several times since.

that said, i'm not a scientist, i only play one on the internet, and i have a basic understanding of the science of vaccines which seems solid, but in practice i'm typically pretty anti-big-medicine


[Edited on October 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM. Reason : i'm also not a govt is trying to experiement on people with vaccines conspiracy theorist]

10/23/2009 11:40:01 AM

^see, this is the only year i haven't gotten the flu vaccine (granted, it's a bit different in this case)... and i ended up with the flu.

10/23/2009 11:42:02 AM

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10/23/2009 11:43:39 AM

I was just flexing my newly earned certification knowledge from the Red Cross. Obviously swine flu is mega contagious. Check, Call, Care is the CPR/AED/First Aid procedure the Red Cross uses when you approach a scene and have to make a decision whether or not to provide care for the victim until EMS arrives. First you check the scene to make sure it's safe, call EMS, and provide care until EMS arrives.

10/23/2009 11:47:19 AM

^^i knew i had read that somewhere, i just couldn't remember where

^oic. gg for getting certified - now just make sure if you're actually IN a situation where your skills could be useful, that you actually man up and do something. the vast majority of people who are certified in the use of an AED and doing CPR would be too freaked out to actually help in an emergency.

CPR is what keeps someone viable until we can get there and fix them (that is, unless they're in one of the few rhythms that an AED will shock). don't worry about the "rescue breaths" bullshit, their blood is oxygenated enough to sustain them - just wail on their chest until EMS shows up.

10/23/2009 11:47:37 AM

The two rhythms that AED shock are ventricular fibrillation and ventricular tachycardia. The first is a slow weak rhythm and the second is fluttering and way too fast. I work for a public safety company that supports EMS, Firefighters, and Police. I will definitely use this knowledge if I need too, but I hope I never have too. The craziest bit about the whole hands-on training course was when the Red Cross trainer said, "when you hear their ribs break, don't stop, just keep going."

[Edited on October 23, 2009 at 11:57 AM. Reason : -]

10/23/2009 11:56:38 AM

^why are you explaining what vfib and vtach are to me?

and unless you break their ribs, ur doin it wrong.

10/23/2009 2:43:18 PM

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"they do an analysis of the most likely strains to be prevalent in the upcoming flu season. yes, they're not going to get it right 100% of the time, but it's sure as hell better than nothing. same with the H1N1 vaccine."

there are so many strains of seasonal flu that the overall effectiveness is significantly reduced. there is a 1 in 10 chance (if that) of you getting the right vaccine for the job. you are pretty lucky if you get the proper strains that year (you beat the odds).

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"i'd like to subscribe to your newsletter."

done and done.

some people are naturally resistant to the flu. they get cold or no symptoms and then it's done.

H1N1 is lovely. even when you stop showing symptoms, you are still contagious 24-48-even 72 hours later.

10/23/2009 3:29:39 PM

My roommate just got back from the Dr. influenza + but H1N1 -

I'm still probably going to get that shit from him.

10/23/2009 3:31:14 PM

just about every single case of influenza so far this year has been H1N1, so it was probably a false negative.

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"there are so many strains of seasonal flu that the overall effectiveness is significantly reduced. there is a 1 in 10 chance (if that) of you getting the right vaccine for the job. you are pretty lucky if you get the proper strains that year (you beat the odds)."

where are these numbers coming from?
also, 1 in 10 is better than no prophylaxis at all.

10/23/2009 3:44:59 PM

the CDC and the scientists that I know.

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"1 in 10 is better than no prophylaxis at all."

i guess you mean Tertiary prevention, when you say prophylaxis. you still get sick. you still feel like crap.

10/23/2009 4:26:24 PM

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"why are you explaining what vfib and vtach are to me?"

It's a public thread dude, plus you skimmed over the point, so I decided to clarify.

10/23/2009 4:32:43 PM

I, too, have been certified by the Red Cross

I should probably get recertified... >.>

But I had to use some of the skills on my drunk friend once - he actually posts on here so I hope he reads this haha

10/23/2009 4:44:50 PM

I had it back in June.

10/23/2009 4:50:38 PM

i was allowed back on campus on thursday, no but seriously i am still coughing it's not cool

10/23/2009 5:51:47 PM

you have all sorts of crazy stories Sam

10/23/2009 5:57:29 PM

that's what you get for violating Leviticus 11:7-8

10/23/2009 6:06:56 PM

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"No I just figured you'd be a lot more careful. That's all."

it's hard to be careful when in such close contact to a droplet spread virus... I mean, he could wear a mask, but the likely hood for his infection is still much greater than that of most of the rest of us


this is why they are telling people not to go to the hospital unless it gets really bad. They a) don't want over crowding, and b) don't want to put their workers at unnecessary risk

10/23/2009 6:09:31 PM

*ding*

10/23/2009 7:18:52 PM

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"i guess you mean Tertiary prevention, when you say prophylaxis. you still get sick. you still feel like crap."

prophylaxis is an all-encompassing term. tertiary protection is a category of prophylaxis.

^^we have a winner.

10/23/2009 8:02:00 PM