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lafta
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this is a cool story of how Rhighahnna's umbrella came to be,
gone are the days for singer/songwriters like mariah carey & kenny G, here are the days of open market songwriters and singers who take all the creidit
dont get me wrong, i love riannon but the songwriters deserve more credit

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"American songwriter-producer Christopher "Tricky" Stewart and Terius "The-Dream" Nash and Kuk Harrell convened in January 2007 at the Atlanta-based Triangle Studios to create new material. In the studio, Stewart was "messing around with a walloping hi-hat sound". With his attention caught by the sound, Nash asked Stewart what he was doing: "Oh, my God, what is that beat?" When Stewart incorporated chords onto the hi-hat, "immediately the word popped into [Nash's] head"; he went to the vocal booth and started singing.[4] Nash wrote the first two verses and the chorus over Stewart's skeleton track.[5] They quickly wrote the lyrics, completing the first verse in 60 seconds. They continued into writing, adding the hook while "Tricky would put the next chord". In a matter of hours, they had recorded a demo of the track.[4]
The song was written with American pop superstar Britney Spears in mind, with whom Stewart had previously worked with in the 2003 song "Me Against the Music". Stewart and Nash thought that Spears, who had "her personal life ... a little out of control" at the time, needed a hit as musical comeback.[4] Spears was working on her fifth album, Blackout, so they sent a copy of the demo to Spears' management. However, Spears did not hear of the song because her label rejected it, claiming they had enough songs for her to record.[6]
Following the management's rejection of the track, Stewart and Nash dealt it out to other record labels.It was also given to UK R&B Singer/Song Writer Taio Cruz. It was Then opted Island Def Jam chairman Antonio "L.A." Reid, a friend of Stewart who established his first studio. By early February 2007, the demo was sent to Reid's right-hand woman, A&R executive Karen Kwak, who passed it along to Reid with a message confirming that they had found a song suited for Rihanna, who was working on her third studio album, Good Girl Gone Bad, at the time. Reid immediately sent the demo to Rihanna, who was also positive of it: "When the demo first started playing, I was like, This is interesting, this is weird. ... But the song kept getting better. I listened to it over and over. I said, 'I need this record. I want to record it tomorrow.'"[4]
When [Rihanna] recorded the 'ellas,' you knew it was about to be the jump-off and your life was about to change if you had anything to do with that record.
—Tricky Stewart, MTV News[6]
However, since it was the Grammy season of 2007, Stewart and Nash eyed American R&B singer Mary J. Blige for the demo.[6] Upon calling them to set the record aside for Rihanna, Stewart had played it to an associate of Blige, subsequently promising the song to her. Having heard the move of the writers, Kwak began calling Stewart and his manager, Mark Stewart, incessantly. Meanwhile, considering Blige's nominations at the Grammys, Stewart and Nash agreed to wait for her response. However, Blige failed to hear the song in full due to her obligations to the Grammys at the time and "had to sign off on the record before her reps could accept it".[6][7] Finally, Reid "stepped in, trading on his power-broker status and longstanding relationship with Stewart", and admits, "I made the producers an offer they couldn't refuse."[4] By the time Reid had successfully persuaded Stewart's camp, they "just couldn't say no".[6] On giving up the record to Reid's camp, Mark Stewart comments, "We knew Rihanna's album would be out in a few months. Mary wasn’t even in an album cycle yet. We made the sensible business decision."[4]
Rihanna recorded the song, with vocal production by Thaddis "Kuk" Harrell, in a Westlake Recording Studios in Los Angeles. Initially, Stewart admitted he was still reluctant as to whether Rihanna was the right artist to record the song, but following the recording of the "ella, ella" catch phrase, he felt they were onto "something".[6] Following Rihanna's recording, Def Jam CEO-rapper Jay-Z added his rap. However, Jay-Z rewrote his verse without the awareness of Stewart and Nash. Stewart could not understand it, but later realized it made "sense" instead of the first version. Stewart noted that "from a songwriter's standpoint, he just really made it more about the song, with the metaphors about umbrellas and about the weather versus what he had before".[6]"

12/5/2009 4:50:19 PM

Kingpin_80
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pretty cool story

12/5/2009 4:53:25 PM

vinylbandit
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"here are the days of open market songwriters and singers who take all the creidit"


Apparently you've never heard of the Brill Building.

12/5/2009 4:56:48 PM

lafta
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summary:

2 dudes write "umbrella" for brittney spears
her managers reject it
they go to mary j. blige
her people reject it
riannoaana wants it, they're forced ot give it to her
jay z forces his rap onto the song
song turns out great

also reonion is barbadian

12/5/2009 4:58:20 PM

lafta
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"Apparently you've never heard of the Brill Building."


no i haven't

12/5/2009 4:58:47 PM

vinylbandit
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The kind of thing you've described as being "here" has been going on for at least seventy years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brill_Building

12/5/2009 5:12:45 PM

Mr. Joshua
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Sinatra wrote all of his songs and they were excellent.

12/5/2009 5:17:03 PM

marko
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and before that, it was Tin Pan Alley

12/5/2009 5:17:54 PM

0EPII1
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Rhighahnna
riannon
riannoaana
reonion

12/5/2009 5:29:41 PM

lafta
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gosh i like wikipedia now,
this is about hillary duff's career, it sad and yet so funny

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"In 2004, Duff starred in the romantic comedy A Cinderella Story. Though the reviews were mostly negative, the film went on to become a moderate box office hit, and critics were impressed by Duff's performance.[26] Later that year, she starred in the film Raise Your Voice, her first role in a drama film. While some critics praised Duff for appearing in a more mature and serious role than her previous films, the film itself was heavily panned.[27] Several reviews were indifferent towards her acting performance and were particularly harsh towards Duff's vocals, with critics pointing out what appeared to be her digitally enhanced voice.[28][29][30][31] The same year, Duff received her first Razzie nomination for worst actress for her roles in Raise Your Voice and A Cinderella Story.[32]
In 2005, Duff starred in The Perfect Man in which she played the eldest daughter of a divorced woman (Heather Locklear). In the same year, Duff was again nominated for a Razzie Award, for The Perfect Man and Cheaper by the Dozen 2.[33] She also starred in the 2006 satirical comedy Material Girls, in which she co-starred with her sister Haylie Duff.[34] Duff along with her sister Haylie, received two more nominations for Razzie awards for their role in the film.[35]"

12/6/2009 1:27:26 AM

AstralAdvent
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this is what people are talking about when they say
popular music is marketed...

im astraladvent and I approved this message

12/6/2009 1:37:38 AM

BubbleBobble
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shut up AA you didn't even read that shit

12/6/2009 1:40:04 AM

th3oretecht
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I BELT THEM SHITS OUT, THATS HOW

12/6/2009 3:37:36 AM

twoozles
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Quote :
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Rhighahnna
riannon
riannoaana
reonion

"

12/6/2009 11:51:12 AM

lafta
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and this is how stars are made these days



i cant stand any of them except carrie underwood

12/6/2009 2:12:58 PM

Kingpin_80
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I 8> Jordan Sparks

12/6/2009 2:14:15 PM

lafta
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she's kinda hot, but i find it hard to take them seriously

12/6/2009 2:20:09 PM

TreeTwista10
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"song turns out great"


lol

12/6/2009 2:26:48 PM

CalledToArms
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that umbrella song is torture to my ears and that entry/article is just another example of something that is well-known and has been going on for awhile.

not trying to crap on the thread though.

[Edited on December 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM. Reason : ]

12/6/2009 2:45:50 PM

wdprice3
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there's a song about an umbrella?

12/6/2009 3:07:20 PM

elduderino
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dUh!

12/6/2009 3:12:05 PM

Konami
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haha I forgot all about the american idol dude with white hair

12/6/2009 3:59:58 PM

marko
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that was the only one i watched

cause i wanted to see him break the show

12/6/2009 4:02:39 PM

lafta
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^i doubt it was worth it

12/6/2009 10:50:20 PM

Capt Insano
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Kris Allen was good...
He did "Heartless" better than Kanye.

12/7/2009 12:29:42 AM

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