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LRlilDaddy
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I mean.... the name sounds like i have the answer. I dont.

whachyall got? we got holidays and new years comin up. I have tried the complex carbs. Didnt work.

one I havent tried is a glass of water after every drink. anyone.... anyone.... ? dont give me this bullshit "dont drink" either.

12/22/2009 11:37:37 AM

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defy science

12/22/2009 11:39:19 AM

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ibtdd

12/22/2009 11:39:26 AM

ScHpEnXeL
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water.

12/22/2009 11:39:31 AM

ScHpEnXeL
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water.

12/22/2009 11:39:31 AM

miska
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drink water in between

12/22/2009 11:39:32 AM

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don't drink

12/22/2009 11:39:46 AM

FroshKiller
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Uh, abstain?

[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM. Reason : giving you the bullshit (welcome)]

12/22/2009 11:39:48 AM

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" * Food and water: consumption of foods such as eggs, which contain cysteine, and water may be enough to replenish lost moisture and at least rehydrate the body, making a hangover shorter. A bacon, egg and cheese sandwich has also been claimed to effectively relieve hangovers [11]
* The Scottish soft drink Irn-Bru is also a popular remedy.[12]
* Rehydration: "Effective interventions include rehydration, prostaglandin inhibitors, and vitamin B6".[13]
* Oxygen: In a double-blind random study of 231 patients at two Vienna hospitals, published in Anesthesiology in 1999 and reported by The New York Times, it was found that the side-effects of general anesthesia could be diminished by giving patients a mix of 80 percent oxygen and 20 percent nitrogen during the surgery, and for two hours afterward. Only 17 percent of the patients receiving supplemental oxygen experienced nausea and vomiting, compared with 30 percent of the group who were given the standard 30 percent oxygen and 70 percent nitrogen.[14] The study's leader characterized the results for the Times, "Extra oxygen is cheap, risk-free and reduces the incidence of nausea as well as any known drug." A related study by members of Dr. Sessler's team, published in Anesthesiology in October 1999, indicated that patients given oxygen in amounts up to 80 percent did not suffer impaired lung function. In addition, there have been anecdotal reports from those with easy access to a breathing oxygen supply — medical staff, SCUBA divers and military pilots — that oxygen can also reduce the symptoms of hangovers sometimes caused by alcohol consumption. The theory is that the increased oxygen flow resulting from oxygen therapy improves the metabolic rate, and thus increases the speed at which toxins are broken down.[15] However, one source states that (in an aviation context) oxygen has no effect on physical impairment caused by hangover.[16]
* Tolfenamic acid (TA): A study concludes, "TA was found significantly better than placebo in the subjective evaluation of drug efficacy (p < 0.001) and in reducing the reported hangover symptoms in general (p < 0.01). In the TA group, significantly lower symptom scores were obtained for headache (p < 0.01), and for nausea, vomiting, irritation, tremor, thirst, and dryness of mouth (all p < 0.05)."[17]
* Vitamin B6 (pyritinol): Some studies have found large doses of Vitamin B6 (several hundred times the recommended daily intake) can help to reduce hangovers.[13][18]
* Chlormethiazole: "Chlormethiazole was found to lower blood pressure and adrenaline output and, furthermore, to relieve unpleasant physical symptoms, but did not affect fatigue and drowsiness. The cognitive test results were only slightly influenced by this agent, while psychomotor performance was significantly impaired. Subjects with severe subjective hangover seemed to benefit more from the chlormethiazole treatment than subjects with a mild hangover."[19] "However, all 8 subjects had unpleasant nasal symptoms following chlormethiazole, and it is therefore not an ideal hypnotic for this age group."[20]
* Rosiglitazone: [Study in rats] "Rosiglitazone alleviated the symptoms of ethanol-induced hangover by inducing ALD2 expression..."[21]
* Acetylcysteine: There are claims that N-acetylcysteine can relieve or prevent symptoms of hangover through scavenging of acetylaldehyde, particularly when taken concurrently with alcohol.[22][23] Additional reduction in acetaldehyde toxicity can be achieved if NAC is taken in conjunction with vitamin B1 (thiamine).[5]
* Hair of the dog: The belief that consumption of further alcohol after the onset of a hangover is a viable treatment of the symptoms. Some say that this is based upon the theory that hangover symptoms are likened to withdrawal symptoms and that by satiating the body's need for alcohol they will be assuaged.
* Benzodiazepines: These, such as lorazepam, along with other CNS depressants, are useful in treating hangovers, as they suppress alcohol withdrawal symptoms and often provide a smoother taper than a direct taper off of alcohol (which is fairly rapidly metabolized in the liver). The utmost in caution must be used however.
* Glucose: Hangovers often occur after long nights of alcohol consumption. This can stunt the body's normal surge of cortisol upon wakening (known as the "Dawn Effect"). Cortisol increases the amount of glucose present in the blood, which provides the body energy. Thus, stunting cortisol release inhibits the normal surge of glucose. Consuming some source of glucose (glucose tablets, glucose gel, etc.) helps to correct the body's blood glucose deficit and fight symptoms of hangover.
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12/22/2009 11:40:01 AM

EMCE
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you could always.... you know... not drink?

12/22/2009 11:40:21 AM

LunaK
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thanks captain obvious

12/22/2009 11:40:55 AM

LRlilDaddy
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miska have you tried this and it worked? or just your best guess?

bc that is a bunch of water. seems like it might induce vomiting which i guess is kind of an answer in and of itself.

edit: thx @ alkatraz but i am going for prevention. see: thread title

[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 11:42 AM. Reason : its a fucking edit get off my back]

12/22/2009 11:41:26 AM

LunaK
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if you drink enough - NOTHING will prevent a hangover. last time i got really shitty, i puked twice (that i remembered) and woke up feeling like death itself.

12/22/2009 11:42:18 AM

TKE-Teg
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some things that usually work for me:

-stick with the same drink all night, or same type of beer
-eat a nice greasy meal beforehand, like a burger and fries
-drink a few glasses of water before you go to sleep
-eat a decent sized meal or snack before you go to sleep (something that is mostly carb intensive is best)

Whenever I do any or several of these I usually do not get hangovers.

12/22/2009 11:42:21 AM

Panthro
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Order from PizzaAmerica @ 4am, only to take three bites and pass out face first in their Veal Parmesan.

You'll wake up so disgusted with yourself that your hangover will be rendered powerless.

I know this from experience.

12/22/2009 11:42:49 AM

miska
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I can say for a fact that having a glass of water in between alcoholic drinks will help.

Anyone who saw me around town this past weekend will verify that I had entirely too much to drink and I mixed the types of drinks I was having, but woke up without a hangover and I felt great.

Having ihop afterward doesn't hurt either

12/22/2009 11:43:41 AM

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Quote :
"don't drink"

12/22/2009 11:44:02 AM

OopsPowSrprs
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Don't smoke, drink water, and take aspirin before you go to bed.

Vomiting also works if you wanna go that extreme with it.

12/22/2009 11:44:02 AM

Slave Famous
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Just eat a shitload

I stuff my face with 4,000 calories every meal during the holidays

So when I drink, all the alcohol is absorbed by the food, so I dont get hungover

I don't really get drunk either, unless I take multiple shots in rapid succession

12/22/2009 11:44:13 AM

stevedude
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gatoradeeeeeeeee

12/22/2009 11:46:26 AM

ALkatraz
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Causes
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"Ethanol has a dehydrating effect by causing increased urine production (diuresis), which causes headaches, dry mouth, and lethargy. Dehydration also causes fluids in the brain to be less plentiful. This can be mitigated by drinking water after consumption of alcohol. Alcohol's effect on the stomach lining can account for nausea.

Another factor contributing to a hangover is the presence of products from the breakdown of ethanol by liver enzymes. Ethanol is converted to acetaldehyde by the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase, and then from acetaldehyde to acetic acid by the enzyme acetaldehyde dehydrogenase. Acetaldehyde (ethanal) is between 10 and 30 times more toxic than alcohol itself,[5] as well as being cocarcinogenic (not carcinogenic solely by itself) and mutagenic.[6]

These two reactions also require the conversion of NAD+ to NADH. With an excess of NADH, the lactate dehydrogenase reaction is driven to produce lactate from pyruvate (the end product of glycolysis) in order to regenerate NAD+ and sustain life. This diverts pyruvate from other pathways such as gluconeogenesis, thereby impairing the ability of the liver to supply glucose to tissues, especially the brain. Because glucose is the primary energy source of the brain, this lack of glucose contributes to hangover symptoms such as fatigue, weakness, mood disturbances, and decreased attention and concentration.

Alcohol consumption can result in depletion of the liver's supply of glutathione[7] and other reductive detoxification agents,[6] reducing its ability to effectively remove acetaldehyde and other toxins from the bloodstream. Additionally, alcohol induces the CYP2E1 enzyme, which itself can produce additional toxins and free radicals.[8]

There are various nervous system effects: the removal of the depressive effects of alcohol in the brain probably account for the light and noise sensitivity.

In addition, it is thought that the presence of other alcohols (such as fusel oils), by-products of the alcoholic fermentation also called congeners, exaggerate many of the symptoms (congeners may also be zinc or other metals added primarily to sweet liqueurs to enhance their flavor); this probably accounts for the mitigation of the effects when distilled alcohol, particularly vodka, is consumed instead.[9]

Red wines have more congeners than white wines, and some people note less of a hangover with white wine. Some individuals have a strong negative reaction to red wine, distinct from hangover, called red wine headache that can affect them within 15 minutes after drinking a single glass of red wine. The headache is usually accompanied by nausea and flushing[citation needed].

In alcohol metabolism, one molecule of ethanol (the primary active ingredient in alcoholic beverages) produces 2 molecules of NADH, using vitamin B12 as a coenzyme. Over-consumption of ethanol may cause vitamin B12 deficiency as well."


Just don't do, or limit, these things.

12/22/2009 11:47:35 AM

LRlilDaddy
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^^whennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn? before you start? between drinks?

[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 11:47 AM. Reason : afd]

12/22/2009 11:47:37 AM

ScHpEnXeL
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drink water until you almost puke.

advil

throw up

not in that order though. throw up first.

[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 11:48 AM. Reason : ^both. ]

12/22/2009 11:48:11 AM

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Ahhh....nothing is fool proof. I can black out and not wake up with a hangover...then one night I'll have 5 or 6 drinks and feel like shit the next day.

But in general I would say....

- Eat something. You don't need to stuff your face...but you definitely can't drink on any empty stomach and expect not to be hungover the next day.

- Drink water. I think a glass of water for every drink is a little unnecessary, but maybe a glass for every two drinks will do.

- Try and stick with the same drink. Don't jump around from beer, to wine, to liquor. This is pretty much impossible for me to do, because I always take shots. But I try to stay consistent with my shots and just drink beer. Like I'll just take shots of Jameson...or just Rumple...or just Grand Marnier. Although that usually doesn't work because I hang with people that like all three and I usually end up getting a variety.

Never really tried these...but a lot of people like to drink a sports drink filled with electrolytes before they go to bed (Gatorade being the most common example), and/or taking some headache medicine go to along with it.


Bottom line...you can't really avoid a true hangover. You can probably avoid a little one if you've just done a decent amount of drinking...but if you're getting fucked up, the hangover is gonna be there.

12/22/2009 11:49:50 AM

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don't drink on an empty stomach, albeit you won't get drunk as fast, but you tend not to get wasted and forget the night...if you just get plastered there is no cure for that, you made the wrong choice

12/22/2009 11:51:05 AM

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I usually pop a multi-vitamin and drink at least a pint glass full of water before going to bed. Doesn't always work, but it seems to help fairly often. I keep a jar of vitamins on the cabinet in my bathroom just because it's easier to remember when you take that last restroom break before hitting the bed.

[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 11:51 AM. Reason : l]

12/22/2009 11:51:20 AM

TKE-Teg
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lot of drunks ITT

12/22/2009 11:51:55 AM

evan
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liter bag of LR

12/22/2009 12:17:02 PM

CleverFilth
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what are you a freshman?

drink at least 2 cups of water before you pass out for the night.

come on man this is rookie.

12/22/2009 12:58:16 PM

Pikey
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Oh shit. Science ITT.

12/22/2009 1:00:44 PM

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12/22/2009 1:01:57 PM

LRlilDaddy
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Quote :
"what are you a freshman?

drink at least 2 cups of water before you pass out for the night.

come on man this is rookie."


wow dude, you are so tuff

could we please have more with the clever and less with the filth.

12/22/2009 1:25:30 PM

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12/22/2009 1:35:29 PM

StateCole
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drink water and take a multi-vitamin before you go to sleep. really, more times than not after doing this i wake up feeling pretty good. when i wake up i usually drink more water and take an ibuprofen to try to combat the potential headache that might come later.

12/22/2009 1:43:23 PM

Samwise16
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My mom always told me to drink a glass of water and take 2 BC powders before going to sleep

12/22/2009 1:55:43 PM

LRlilDaddy
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I really wish I had access to an IV. I work with this lady who was in the army and she said they would party and then get IV's from (whatever health center their army base had) while they passed out and woke up with 0 consequence.

so i said, you're welcome for the tax money

[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 4:12 PM. Reason : a]

12/22/2009 4:12:01 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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chugging a lot of water before i go to bed helps me a lot

12/22/2009 4:26:55 PM

blanks
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Prickly pear nectar before drinking. Scientifically proven.

12/22/2009 4:29:15 PM

FilipinoGuy
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eat greasy food and try drinking 2 glasses of cold water before passing out

[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 4:47 PM. Reason : ....]

12/22/2009 4:46:07 PM

khcadwal
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don't drink?

12/22/2009 4:46:36 PM

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Have an apple and Nexium before the night of drinking is what a local brewery owner told me.

12/22/2009 4:51:18 PM

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12/22/2009 4:53:10 PM

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12/22/2009 5:54:56 PM

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Once I'm done drinking for the night I have 2-3 glasses of water and make sure to sleep with a glass beside me, and if you wake up in the middle of the night, even briefly, take a sip.

As a result of this system I always have to piss like a racehorse first thing in the morning, but I am pretty much never hungover.

12/22/2009 6:00:05 PM

Chop
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don't drink.

a water to alcohol ratio of 1:1 seems to work pretty well, as well as sleeping it off.

i didn't read the thread.

12/22/2009 6:14:46 PM

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don't drink bottom shelf liquor or white wine.

[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 7:19 PM. Reason : .]

12/22/2009 7:19:00 PM

tchenku
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crystal meth

12/22/2009 7:20:18 PM

tripleD4u
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water then more drink...

12/22/2009 7:22:31 PM

StillFuchsia
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water and some Revive Vitamin Water before going to bed

12/22/2009 8:01:27 PM

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clear liquors have less of the hangover-inducing stuff in them.

12/22/2009 8:09:00 PM

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