Where should I go first?

2/16/2010 12:53:07 PM

legends

2/16/2010 12:53:40 PM

liquor store

2/16/2010 12:53:40 PM

pure gold?

2/16/2010 12:54:36 PM

Same place you always went underaged

Surprise! I'm 21 today!

2/16/2010 12:56:29 PM

Liquor store

2/16/2010 12:57:28 PM

I went to the liquor store on my 21st birthday, all excited to be buying a fifth of Captain Morgan.

I didn't get carded.

I was like....umm, dontcha wanna card me????

2/16/2010 12:57:36 PM

I went to Mitch's, then to Sadlack's, then to Player's Retreat.

2/16/2010 12:58:32 PM

so basically all the really shitty bars

[Edited on February 16, 2010 at 1:00 PM. Reason : near campus]

[Edited on February 16, 2010 at 1:00 PM. Reason : because dive bar and the goat are fucking awful as well]

[Edited on February 16, 2010 at 1:00 PM. Reason : city limits]

2/16/2010 1:00:07 PM

^^^I actually didn't get carded on my 21st bday... I made jlancas03 and his roommate drive me there after hangover bojangles so I could get a handle of crown for the concert we were going to that night

2/16/2010 1:03:26 PM

^^PR is like a family tradition for me.

2/16/2010 1:05:22 PM

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"I went to Mitch's, then to Sadlack's, then to Player's Retreat."

this.

2/16/2010 1:08:48 PM

Start at Mitch's
Then stop in at the Flying Saucer
Then finish the night at Rum Runners and have your friends pay the piano players to call you up on stage. That is when Rum Runners is the most fun. If it isn't your birthday then it is still fun, but not as fun.

[Edited on February 16, 2010 at 1:19 PM. Reason : .]

2/16/2010 1:13:33 PM

I went to flying saucer for my 21st

if you go out at midnight, I think hi5 has $4 everything behind the bar tonight.

if you go out tomorrow - rum runners has $1.25 wells, sammy's has $1.75 pints and $3.50 wells and $4 jager, brickhouse has $1 cans and $5 monster bombs

2/16/2010 1:20:08 PM

it shouldn't matter how cheap/expensive drinks are, your friends should nut up and get you drunk

2/16/2010 1:21:13 PM

we, too, have turned 21

2/16/2010 1:21:17 PM

Today, we are all 21.

2/16/2010 1:21:59 PM

i was drunk before we even got to the bars that night so I don't remember it anyway


I ended up meeting Dick Yeungling who pulled down a framed poster and signed it for me (wishing me a happy 21st and that I got home safely)- still got it hanging above my dry bar

2/16/2010 1:23:02 PM

I realize this thread is about those who have turned 21.... which I have not. Hear me out, maybe I can offer some insight.

I am in outside sales, which is currently salary+commission, but will move into straight commission starting at the beginning of July 2010. I have been in this position since July 2009. I have competition from several direct manufacturing sales reps, large distributors, and local distributors. Here are the advantages and disadvantages of each:

Direct Advantages: Immediate knowledge of new technology, no middle man mark up, one shipping bill (paid by manufacturer or buyer of goods), access to larger range of non-commodity items, control inventory, have access to many distributors that can effectively sell their goods which increases market share, and set prices of commodity they manufacture.

Direct disadvantages: Typically have 1-3 sales reps per region (i.e. southeast, mid-atlantic, northeast, etc.) limiting the number of accounts they can successfully manage/cold-call, lack physical customer service or physical technical service available to or affordable for smaller users or altogether, are sometimes not trustworthy because they will go in behind their distributors that sell their commodity to one account in large quantities (i.e. they missed a big account, and have found out about it through a distributor selling their particular product) which leads to the distributor not selling their product anymore, have too many distributors selling the product ultimately driving the set price down through deviations, possibly rely on distributors to actually sell the product, and competition from other direct sources.

Large distributor advantages: have access to other commodities that go hand in hand with other manufacturers (poor example- grocery stores sell milk as well as cereal), get direct pricing, many locations regionally or nationally easing the shipping burden of buyers with multiple locations, personal service either customer or technical, many sales reps that are able to cover a broader territory, access to multiple manufacturers of the same commodity allowing to keep prices in check, service programs that smaller companies can't offer and direct providers can't match in price or value, and experts of many many commodities as opposed to one or a few.

Large distributor disadvantages: smaller local distributors creating price wars (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), direct mfg's going in behind and stealing business, limited access to all of the mfg's (you won't find Harris Teeter name brands in Food Lion and visa versa), can't truly set prices because it's based on both supply and demand, territory management, and tough growth prospects in slower economies (this is true for direct as well really)

Local distributor advantages: Typically a good ol' boy setting where the seller and the buyer know each other for years (this does happen at all levels, but mostly at the local level), local folks are right down the street and can be used in emergencies, if the local guy buys at high enough volumes then there is no shipping charge to the end user, and access to both direct mfg's and large distributors.

Local distributor disadvantages: easily beaten in price, array of commodities, array of technology, lack of trained staff, low cash flow, etc etc etc.

This is what I have noticed in my six months, I am sure there are plenty more that need mentioning. The way I am setting myself apart as a sales person is this: I go after the big accounts right now while I am new. The big accounts, if I land them, will take care of me while I am new and building a customer base. The money made off of those allows me to focus free time on smaller accounts that get me higher margins. I build up big accounts, I would like to have 5-10 of these, then get 20-30 medium accounts. If I lose 1 or 2 big accounts, the 20-30 medium accounts keep me afloat while I go after new big accounts. I don't really waste time on small accounts simply because they basically pay for breakfast or something really small.

I will say this, if you can't get a big account in the first 6-8 months (assuming you have cash flow that you can ride this long) you could be in a world of trouble. If you can get one, it will really make going after the others a lot more enjoyable and less stressful. It's simply just very exhausting wasting any time on anything other than big accounts in the very beginning. You work just as hard on the medium sized accounts and see 1/3 to 1/36 of the money in my situation.

If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest!

2/16/2010 1:25:10 PM

i went to the saucer, you should too

join the ufo club, blow all your money

2/16/2010 1:27:36 PM

Also, check out The Pour House music schedule. Most of the bands that come have a myspace music page that you can listen to without logging in, so that you know if you want to see them. They have 30 beers on tap and serve hard liquior.

2/16/2010 1:29:45 PM

go somewhere that already smells like vomit so that when you vomit, it'll blend in


i recommend high 5

2/16/2010 1:59:59 PM

Go to the Goat!

2/16/2010 2:01:19 PM

the goat is also a good choice for that already-vomited-in-odor

2/16/2010 2:01:56 PM

Quote :

"I went to the liquor store on my 21st birthday, all excited to be buying a fifth of Captain Morgan. I didn't get carded. I was like....umm, dontcha wanna card me???? "

yeah it's gotta suck to already look 30 when you are only 21

2/16/2010 2:03:14 PM

it's not about where you go, it's about how many quality bitches you can convince to show up and stay

2/16/2010 3:01:48 PM

^^i get carded more today than i did when i was 21

so you're saying i've gotten younger looking as i've aged?

i'm willing to bet they just crack down on checking ID's more now than they did 7 years ago

2/16/2010 3:03:24 PM

fucking EAst Village son

2/16/2010 3:05:10 PM

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"go somewhere that already smells like vomit so that when you vomit, it'll blend in"

Yup, it doesn't really matter, cause after a few hours you shouldn't even know where you are.

I spent mine at Harrison's from midnight til 2 and then the night of my bday at East Village. Incidentally, I got so drunk at EV that when I got home to bang my girlfriend, I was so drunk it took forever to cum, the condom broke and I busted inside, and we had to get the morning-after pill the next day. Hope your day works out better then mine.

2/16/2010 3:06:38 PM

go to Horneblows tavern a.k.a. big boss brewery

it's on wicker dr.

2/16/2010 3:46:43 PM

Mitch's.


it was great.

2/16/2010 3:50:51 PM

Damn I will be 57% older than you in a month and 3 days... I feel OLD .

Good thing I still feel about 25 .

2/16/2010 3:55:53 PM

2/16/2010 4:39:26 PM

^that shit doesn't make a lick of sense. good try.

2/16/2010 4:53:20 PM

lol at scum runners suggestion for his 21st birthday.

2/16/2010 5:06:27 PM

Lucky B's or whatever it is called. There is always some easy ass in there if you're into that kind of thing.

2/16/2010 5:14:24 PM

^hahhaha, so true. bunch of drunk sluts for the most part.

2/16/2010 5:15:37 PM

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"lol at scum runners suggestion for his 21st birthday."

You can't hate on Rum Runners for a 21st birthday since you get to go on stage and get in for free on your birthday. It is 2 bars in one since they have the dance club in the back room. With that being said, it is good for about 4 visits per year as long as you go about once every 3 months. A lady I work with who never goes out went there with me and enjoyed it and then we went back 2 weeks later and the show wasn't as entertaining. That was too close together since it is the same show every night.

Like I said, the Flying Saucer is the best place to go since they have 80 (?) beers on tap and the Pour House is cool too if they have a good band playing and you want to go somewhere where you have to scream in your friends ear just to talk to them. It's very loud when bands are playing.

2/17/2010 12:23:14 AM

RAWR RAWR RAWR. KING DOUCHEBAG HERE. YOUR BAR SUGGESTIONS SUCK. ONLY BARS I LIKE ARE WORTHY OF MENTIONING AND ATTENDING.


it's a fucking bar. beer, liquor, too many fucking people, smells like ass, and music that's too loud. they're all the fucking same.

2/17/2010 8:08:42 AM

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"fucking EAst Village son"

2/17/2010 8:56:08 AM

lol, in exception to my above rant... EV does really suck, or it at least used to. Warm Coors light seemed to be the only option they ever had.

2/17/2010 8:57:29 AM

^ yeah but it's great to go for your 21st... you can just yack over the side of the porch when someone gives you a prairie fire at drink 21

[Edited on February 17, 2010 at 8:59 AM. Reason : .]

2/17/2010 8:58:48 AM

ha, I guess that is true

2/17/2010 9:00:04 AM

I feel like the first ~8 replies are always the same for this type of thread and I haven't even been here that long

2/17/2010 9:43:54 AM

liquor store and a gun store nothing like celebrating the 21st like with a handle and a handgun

2/17/2010 9:51:39 AM

legends

2/17/2010 9:52:33 AM

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"RAWR RAWR RAWR. KING DOUCHEBAG HERE. YOUR BAR SUGGESTIONS SUCK. ONLY BARS I LIKE ARE WORTHY OF MENTIONING AND ATTENDING. it's a fucking bar. beer, liquor, too many fucking people, smells like ass, and music that's too loud. they're all the fucking same."

You are correct to some degree, but not all places are as loud as The Pour House when a band is playing there.

2/17/2010 12:41:52 PM

Quote :

"I went to the liquor store on my 21st birthday, all excited to be buying a fifth of Captain Morgan. I didn't get carded. I was like....umm, dontcha wanna card me???? "

the same thing happened to me!

but when i was in the liquor store a few weeks ago, the guy carded me and almost didn't believe i was 27. he was like, "damn you look way younger."

2/17/2010 12:44:55 PM

It's about to be a set em up

2/17/2010 12:46:27 PM

On my 21st birthday I went to the Mission Valley ABC store. I got a few bottles of assorted liquor, and when I got to the counter the guy was like "Hey man where ya been??!"

2/17/2010 12:47:31 PM