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I'm interested in learning more about this. Can anyone tell me the advantages and disadvantages? I realize this may be the wrong place to look, but hopefully someone can help me out. Thanks!

3/10/2010 9:12:13 AM

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Nah.

3/10/2010 9:13:26 AM

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I realize this thread is about outside sales, but I want to talk about shit.


The word Shit is usually considered a vulgarity and profanity in Modern English. As a noun it refers to fecal matter (excrement) and as a verb it means to defecate or defecate in; in the plural ("the shits") it means diarrhea. Shite is also a common variant in British English[citation needed].

Etymology
The word is likely derived from Old English, having the nouns scite (dung, attested only in place names) and scitte (diarrhoea), and the verb scitan (to defecate, attested only in bescitan, to cover with excrement); eventually it morphed into Middle English schitte (excrement), schyt (diarrhoea) and shiten (to defecate), and it is virtually certain that it was used in some form by preliterate Germanic tribes at the time of the Roman Empire. The word may be further traced to Proto-Germanic *skit-, and ultimately to Proto-Indo-European *skheid-. The word has several cognates in modern Germanic languages, such as German Scheisse, Dutch schijt, Swedish skit, Icelandic skítur, Norwegian skitt etc. Ancient Greek had 'skor' (gen. 'skatos' hence 'scato-'), from Proto-Indo-European *sker-, which is likely unrelated.[1]

False etymology
A popular belief is that the word shit originated as an acronym for "Ship High In Transit", referring to the apparent need to stow manure well above the water line when transporting it by ship. This has been shown to be a myth.[2][3]

Usage
The word shit (or sometimes shite in Scotland, Northern Ireland, Ireland, Northern England and Wales) is used by English speakers, but it is usually avoided in formal speech. Minced oath substitutes for the word shit in English include sugar and shoot.

In the word's literal sense, it has a rather small range of common usages. An unspecified or collective occurrence of feces is generally shit or some shit; a single deposit of feces is sometimes a shit or a piece of shit, and to defecate is to shit, or to take a shit. While it is common to speak of shit as existing in a pile, a load, a hunk and other quantities and configurations, such expressions flourish most strongly in the figurative. For practical purposes, when actual defecation and excreta are spoken of in English, it is either through creative euphemism or with a vague and fairly rigid literalism.

"Shit" can also be combined with other words to denote the type of feces one has. For instance, "Snake shit" describes feces that are long and thin in shape, thus reminiscent of a snake's appearance. "Shapeepee" or "Shit pee pee" is another word for diarrhea, or can be used to describe feces that are almost entirely of liquid composition.
Vague noun
Shit can be used as a generic mass noun similar to stuff; for instance, This show is funny shit or This test is hard shit, or That was stupid shit. These three usages (with funny, hard, and stupid or another synonym of stupid) are heard most commonly in the United States. Note that shit is both a positive and negative thing in these examples, shit being apparently very funny (a positive thing) and in the second and third examples very hard (as in, difficult - a negative thing to be) or very stupid. Note also that in a phrase like this, the speaker doesn't include the term as; saying that something is as funny as shit would be taken as a negative statement (shit not being a very funny thing to be). A similar usage is the shit, which indicates great praise or approval; for example, the phrase This show was the shit indicates major approval from the speaker of a show.

In Get your shit together! the word shit may refer to some set of personal belongings or tools, or to one's wits, composure, or attention to the task at hand. He doesn't have his shit together suggests he is failing rather broadly, with the onus laid to multiple personal shortcomings, rather than bad luck or outside forces.

Trouble
Shit can be used to denote trouble, by saying one is in a lot of shit or deep shit. It's common for someone to refer to an unpleasant thing as hard shit (You got a speeding ticket? Man, that's some hard shit), but the phrase tough shit is used as an unsympathetic way of saying too bad to whoever is having problems (You got arrested? Tough shit, man!) or as a way of expressing to someone that they need to stop complaining about something and just deal with it (Billy: I got arrested because of you! Tommy: Tough shit, dude, you knew you might get arrested when you chose to come with me.) Note that in this case, as in many cases with the term, tough shit is often said as a way of pointing out someone's fault in his/her own current problem.

When the shit hits the fan is usually used to refer to a specific time of confrontation or trouble, which requires decisive action. This is often used in reference to combat situations and the action scenes in movies, but can also be used for everyday instances that one might be apprehensive about. I don't want to be here when the shit hits the fan! indicates that the speaker is dreading this moment (which can be anything from an enemy attack to confronting an angry parent or friend). He's the one to turn to when the shit hits the fan is an indication that the person being talked about is dependable and will not run from trouble or abandon their allies in tough situations. The concept of this phrase is simple enough, as the actual substance striking the rotating blades of a fan would cause a messy and unpleasant situation (much like being in the presence of a manure spreader). Whether or not this has actually happened, or if the concept is simply feasible enough for most people to imagine the result without needing it to be demonstrated, is unknown. Another example might be the saying shit rolls down hill which is particularly illustrating, the consequences of putting your superiors in a bad position at work.
Displeasure
Shit can comfortably stand in for the terms bad and anything in many instances (Dinner was good, but the movie was shit. You're all mad at me, but I didn't do shit!). A comparison can also be used, as in Those pants look like shit, or This stuff tastes like shit. Many usages are idiomatic. The phrase, I don't give a shit denotes indifference. I'm shit out of luck usually refers to someone who is at the end of their wits or who has no remaining viable options. That little shit shot me in the ass, suggests a mischievous or contemptuous person. Euphemisms such as crap are not used in this context.

The term piece of shit is generally used to classify a product or service as being sufficiently below the writer's understanding of generally accepted quality standards to be of negligible and perhaps even negative value.The term piece of shit has greater precision than shit or shitty in that piece of shit identifies the low quality of a specific component or output of a process without applying a derogatory slant to the entire process. The fact that the orchestra's recent rendition of Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony in B minor was pretty much a piece of shit should not in any way detract from this." The substitution of shit or shitty for pretty much a piece of shit would imply irony and would therefore undermine the strength of the statement.

Shortening of bullshit
The expression no shit? (a contraction of no bullshit?) is used in response to a statement that is extraordinary or hard to believe. Alternatively the maker of the hard-to-believe statement may add no shit to reinforce the sincerity or truthfulness of their statement, particularly in response to someone expressing disbelief at their statement. No shit is also used sarcastically in response to a statement of the obvious, as in no shit, Sherlock.

In this form the word can also be used in phrases such as don't give me that shit or you're full of shit. The term full of shit is often used as an exclamation to charge someone who is believed to be prone to dishonesty, exaggeration or is thought to be "phoney" with an accusation. For example:

"Oh, I'm sorry I forgot to invite you to the party, it was a complete accident... But you really didn't miss anything anyway.
"You're full of shit! You had dozens of opportunities to invite me. If you have a problem with me, why not say it!"
The word bullshit also denotes false or insincere discourse. (Horseshit is roughly equivalent, while chickenshit means cowardly, batshit indicates a person is crazy, and going apeshit indicates a person is entering a state of high excitement or unbridled rage.). Are you shitting me!? is a question sometimes given in response to an incredible assertion. An answer that reasserts the veracity of the claim is, I shit you not.

Emphasis
Perhaps the only constant connotation that shit reliably carries is that its referent holds some degree of emotional intensity for the speaker. Whether offense is taken at hearing the word varies greatly according to listener and situation, and is related to age and social class: elderly speakers and those of (or aspiring to) higher socioeconomic strata tend to use it more privately and selectively than younger and more blue-collar speakers.

Like the word fuck, shit is often used to add emphasis more than to add meaning, for example, shit! I was so shit-scared of that shithead that I shit-talked him into dropping out of the karate match! The term to shit-talk connotes bragging or exaggeration (whereas to talk shit primarily means to gossip [about someone in a damaging way] or to talk in a boastful way about things which are erroneous in nature), but in such constructions as the above, the word shit often functions as an interjection.

Unlike the word fuck, shit is not used emphatically with -ing or as an infix. For example; I lost the shitting karate match would be replaced with ...the fucking karate match. Similarly, while in-fucking-credible is generally acceptable, in-shitting-credible is not.

3/10/2010 9:15:04 AM

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You won't believe what we have in store for you.

3/10/2010 9:15:43 AM

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I realize this thread is about God's shit.... which I am not. Hear me out, maybe I can offer some insight.

I am in outside sales, which is currently salary+commission, but will move into straight commission starting at the beginning of July 2010. I have been in this position since July 2009. I have competition from several direct manufacturing sales reps, large distributors, and local distributors. Here are the advantages and disadvantages of each:

Direct Advantages: Immediate knowledge of new technology, no middle man mark up, one shipping bill (paid by manufacturer or buyer of goods), access to larger range of non-commodity items, control inventory, have access to many distributors that can effectively sell their goods which increases market share, and set prices of commodity they manufacture.

Direct disadvantages: Typically have 1-3 sales reps per region (i.e. southeast, mid-atlantic, northeast, etc.) limiting the number of accounts they can successfully manage/cold-call, lack physical customer service or physical technical service available to or affordable for smaller users or altogether, are sometimes not trustworthy because they will go in behind their distributors that sell their commodity to one account in large quantities (i.e. they missed a big account, and have found out about it through a distributor selling their particular product) which leads to the distributor not selling their product anymore, have too many distributors selling the product ultimately driving the set price down through deviations, possibly rely on distributors to actually sell the product, and competition from other direct sources.

Large distributor advantages: have access to other commodities that go hand in hand with other manufacturers (poor example- grocery stores sell milk as well as cereal), get direct pricing, many locations regionally or nationally easing the shipping burden of buyers with multiple locations, personal service either customer or technical, many sales reps that are able to cover a broader territory, access to multiple manufacturers of the same commodity allowing to keep prices in check, service programs that smaller companies can't offer and direct providers can't match in price or value, and experts of many many commodities as opposed to one or a few.

Large distributor disadvantages: smaller local distributors creating price wars (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), direct mfg's going in behind and stealing business, limited access to all of the mfg's (you won't find Harris Teeter name brands in Food Lion and visa versa), can't truly set prices because it's based on both supply and demand, territory management, and tough growth prospects in slower economies (this is true for direct as well really)

Local distributor advantages: Typically a good ol' boy setting where the seller and the buyer know each other for years (this does happen at all levels, but mostly at the local level), local folks are right down the street and can be used in emergencies, if the local guy buys at high enough volumes then there is no shipping charge to the end user, and access to both direct mfg's and large distributors.

Local distributor disadvantages: easily beaten in price, array of commodities, array of technology, lack of trained staff, low cash flow, etc etc etc.

This is what I have noticed in my six months, I am sure there are plenty more that need mentioning. The way I am setting myself apart as a sales person is this: I go after the big accounts right now while I am new. The big accounts, if I land them, will take care of me while I am new and building a customer base. The money made off of those allows me to focus free time on smaller accounts that get me higher margins. I build up big accounts, I would like to have 5-10 of these, then get 20-30 medium accounts. If I lose 1 or 2 big accounts, the 20-30 medium accounts keep me afloat while I go after new big accounts. I don't really waste time on small accounts simply because they basically pay for breakfast or something really small.

I will say this, if you can't get a big account in the first 6-8 months (assuming you have cash flow that you can ride this long) you could be in a world of trouble. If you can get one, it will really make going after the others a lot more enjoyable and less stressful. It's simply just very exhausting wasting any time on anything other than big accounts in the very beginning. You work just as hard on the medium sized accounts and see 1/3 to 1/36 of the money in my situation.

If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest!

3/10/2010 9:24:09 AM

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I realize this thread is about outside sales, but hear me out, maybe I can offer some insight.











If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest!

yo holmes to bel air

3/10/2010 9:25:11 AM

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3/10/2010 9:28:21 AM

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3/10/2010 9:42:59 AM

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Cuando en el curso de acontecimientos humanos llega a ser necesario que una personas disolver las vendas políticas que las han conectado con otras y las asuman entre las energías de la tierra, de la estación separada e igual a las cuales las leyes de la naturaleza y de Nature' dios de s les da derecho, un respecto decente a las opiniones de la humanidad requiere que deben declarar las causas que las impulsan a la separación. Llevamos a cabo estas verdades para ser evidentes en sí, ese todos los hombres somos igual creado, de que que son dotadas por su creador con ciertas derechas unalienable, que entre éstos son vida, libertad y la búsqueda de la felicidad. - Que asegurar las estas derechas, gobiernos se instituyen entre hombres, la derivación de sus energías justas del consentimiento del haber gobernado, - que siempre que cualquier forma de gobierno llegue a ser destructiva de estos extremos, él el correcto de la gente de alterarlo o de suprimir, e instituir al nuevo gobierno, poniendo su fundación en tales principios y organizando sus energías en tal forma, en cuanto a ellos parecerá muy probablemente efectuar su seguridad y felicidad. La prudencia, dictará de hecho que los gobiernos establecidos desde hace mucho tiempo no deben ser cambiados para las causas de la luz y del transeúnte; y por consiguiente todo el shewn del hath de la experiencia que la humanidad es dispuesta sufrir, mientras que los males son sufribles que enderezarse suprimiendo las formas a las cuales están acostumbrados. Pero cuando un tren largo de abusos y de usurpaciones, persiguiendo invariable el mismo objeto muestra un diseño para reducirlas bajo despotismo absoluto, su correcto, él es su deber, lanzar de tal gobierno, y proporcionar a los nuevos protectores para su seguridad futura. - Tal ha sido el sufferance paciente de estas colonias; y tal ahora es la necesidad que le obliga a que altere sus sistemas de gobierno anteriores. La historia del actual rey de Gran Bretaña es una historia de lesiones y de las usurpaciones repetidas, todas que tienen en objeto directo el establecimiento de una tiranía absoluta sobre estos estados. Para probar esto, deje los hechos ser sometido a un mundo sincero. Él ha rechazado su asentimiento a las leyes, el el más sano y necesario para el interés público. Él ha prohibido a sus gobernadores aprobar leyes de la importancia inmediata y acuciante, a menos que esté suspendido en su operación hasta su asentimiento debe ser obtenido; y cuando está suspendido tan, él ha descuidado completamente atender a ellas. Él ha rechazado aprobar otras leyes para la comodidad de districtos grandes de la gente, a menos que esa gente abandonara la derecha de la representación en la legislatura, una derecha inestimable a ella y formidable a los tiranos solamente. Él ha llamado juntos cuerpos legislativos en los lugares inusuales, incómodos, y distantes del almacén de sus expedientes públicos, para el único propósito de fatigarlos en conformidad con sus medidas. Él ha disuelto casas representativas en varias ocasiones, para oponerse con firmeza de hombres a sus invasiones en las derechas de la gente. Él ha rechazado durante mucho tiempo, después de que tales disoluciones, hacer otras ser elegido, por el que las energías legislativas, incapaces de aniquilación, hayan vuelto a la gente at large para su ejercicio; el estado que sigue expuesto mientras tanto a todos los peligros de la invasión de fuera, y convulsiones dentro. Él se ha esforzado para prevenir la población de estos estados; para ese propósito que obstruye las leyes para la naturalización de extranjeros; rechazando pasar otros para animar sus migraciones aquí, y el aumento de las condiciones de nuevas apropiaciones de tierras. Él ha obstruido la administración de la justicia rechazando su asentimiento a las leyes para establecer energías judiciales. Él ha hecho a jueces dependientes en el suyo solamente para el arrendamiento de sus oficinas, y la cantidad y el pago de sus sueldos. Él ha erigido una multiplicidad de nuevas oficinas, y ha enviado los enjambres más cercanos de oficiales para acosar nuestra gente y para comer hacia fuera su sustancia. Él ha guardado entre nosotros, en tiempos de paz, a los ejércitos derechos sin el consentimiento de nuestras legislaturas. Él ha afectado para rendir la independiente de y al superior militares a la energía civil. Él ha combinado con otros para sujetarnos a una jurisdicción extranjera a nuestra constitución, y no reconocida por nuestras leyes; donante de su asentimiento a sus actos de la legislación fingida: Para cuartear a los cuerpos grandes de tropas armadas entre nosotros: Para protegerlos, por un ensayo falso contra el castigo para cualesquiera asesina que deban confiar en los habitantes de estos estados: Para cortar nuestro comercio con todas las partes del mundo: Para los impuestos imponentes sobre nosotros sin nuestro consentimiento: Para privarnos en muchos casos, de la ventaja del ensayo de Jury: Para transportarnos más allá de los mares que se intentarán para las ofensas fingidas: Para suprimir el sistema libre de leyes inglesas en una provincia vecina, estableciendo en esto a un gobierno arbitrario, y agrandando sus límites para rendirla inmediatamente un instrumento del ejemplo y del ajuste para introducir la misma regla absoluta en estas colonias Para quitar nuestras cartas, suprimir nuestras leyes más valiosas y alterar fundamental las formas de nuestros gobiernos: Para suspender a nuestras propias legislaturas, y declararse invirtió con energía de legislar para nosotros en todos los casos cualesquiera. Él ha abdicado al gobierno aquí, declarándonos fuera de su protección y emprendiendo guerra contra nosotros. Él ha pillado nuestros mares, devastados nuestras costas, quemados nuestras ciudades, y destruidos las vidas de nuestra gente. Él está en este tiempo que transporta a los ejércitos grandes de mercenarios extranjeros al compleat los trabajos de la muerte, de la desolación, y de la tiranía, comenzada ya con circunstancias del & de la crueldad; Perfidia sida paralelo a apenas en las edades más bárbaras, y totalmente indigna el jefe de una nación civilizada. Él ha obligado a nuestros conciudadanos llevados el cautivo en los altos mares a los brazos del oso contra su país, que hagan los verdugos de sus amigos y hermanos, o se caigan ellos mismos por sus manos. Él ha excitado insurrecciones domésticas entre nosotros, y se ha esforzado para traer en los habitantes de nuestras fronteras, los salvajes indios sin piedad cuya regla sabida de guerra, es una destrucción mediocre de todas las edades, sexos y condiciones. En cada etapa de estas opresiones hemos solicitado para la compensación en los términos más humildes: Nuestras peticiones repetidas han sido contestadas solamente por lesión repetida. Un príncipe, cuyo carácter es marcado así por cada acto que pueda definir a un tirano, es impropio ser el regla de una gente libre. Ni ténganos que quieren en atenciones a nuestros hermanos británicos. Los hemos advertido de vez en cuando de tentativas por su legislatura de ampliar una jurisdicción insostenible sobre nosotros. Las hemos recordado las circunstancias de nuestra emigración y establecimiento aquí. Hemos apelado a su justicia y magnanimidad nativas, y las hemos conjurado por los lazos de nuestros kindred comunes para rechazar estas usurpaciones, que interrumpirían inevitable nuestras conexiones y correspondencia. Han sido también sordas a la voz de la justicia y de la consanguinidad. Debemos, por lo tanto, consentir en la necesidad, que denunci nuestra separación, y las sostenemos, como llevamos a cabo el resto de humanidad, los enemigos en guerra, en amigos de la paz. , Por lo tanto, los representantes de los Estados Unidos de América, en general Congress, montado, apelando al juez supremo del mundo para la rectitud de nuestras intenciones, en el nombre, y por Authority de la buena gente de estas colonias, publicamos solemnemente y declarar, que estas colonias unidas están, y de la derecha debe ser estados libres y independientes, que las absuelven de toda la lealtad a la corona británica, y que toda la conexión política entre ellas y el estado de Gran Bretaña, es y debe ser disuelta totalmente; y eso como estados libres y independientes, tienen plenos poderes de imponer guerra, concluyen paz, contratan alianzas, establecen comercio, y de hacer el resto de actos y de las cosas que los estados independientes puedan de la derecha hacer. - Y para la ayuda de esta declaración, con una confianza firme en la protección de Providence divino, prometemos mutuamente el uno al otro nuestras vidas, nuestras fortunas, y nuestro honor sagrado.

3/10/2010 9:43:22 AM

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Me doy cuenta de este hilo es sobre las ventas fuera de meme .... que yo no discuto. Escúchame, tal vez pueda ofrecer alguna información.

Estoy en ventas externas, que actualmente está salario + comisión, pero se trasladará a la comisión recta a partir de principios de julio de 2010. He estado en este cargo desde julio de 2009. Tengo la competencia de varios representantes de la fabricación directa de ventas, los grandes distribuidores, y los distribuidores locales. Aquí están las ventajas y desventajas de cada uno:

Ventajas directas: conocimiento inmediato de las nuevas tecnologías, no marca hombre a medias, una factura de envío (a cuenta del fabricante o comprador de las mercancías), el acceso a la gama más amplia de productos no básicos, control de inventario, tener acceso a muchos distribuidores que efectivamente pueden vender de sus productos lo que aumenta la cuota de mercado, y fijar los precios de los productos básicos que fabrican.

Desventajas directo: Normalmente tienen 1-3 representantes de ventas por región (sureste es decir, del Atlántico, el noreste, etc) limitar el número de cuentas que puede manejar con éxito frío / llamada, la falta de atención al cliente físico o el servicio técnico o físico disponible asequibles para los usuarios más pequeños o en conjunto, a veces no son confiables porque van a ir detrás de sus distribuidores que venden sus productos a una cuenta en grandes cantidades (es decir, que se perdió una gran cuenta, y han de enterar a través de un distribuidor que venda su producto en particular ) que lleva a que el distribuidor no vender su producto más, tienen muchos distribuidores que vendan el producto en última instancia, conducir el precio establecido a través de las desviaciones, basarse en los distribuidores a vender realmente el producto, y la competencia de otras fuentes directas.

Ventajas distribuidor grande: tener acceso a otras materias primas que van de la mano con otros fabricantes (por ejemplo, la mala alimentación tiendas venden la leche, así como de cereales), obtener precios directos, muchos lugares a nivel regional o nacional aliviar la carga de envío de los compradores con múltiples ubicaciones, servicios personales ya sea cliente o técnica, muchos representantes de ventas que son capaces de cubrir un territorio más amplio, el acceso a diversos fabricantes de la misma materia prima que permite mantener los precios bajo control, programas de servicio que las empresas más pequeñas no pueden ofrecer y los proveedores directos no pueden igualar en el precio o valor, y expertos de muchos de muchos productos básicos en lugar de uno o unos pocos.

Gran distribuidor desventajas: los distribuidores locales más pequeñas, la creación de las guerras de precios (que Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), MFG directa va detrás de robo y de negocios, el acceso limitado a todos los MFG de (usted no encontrará marcas de Harris Teeter en nombre de la Alimentación León y viceversa), no puede realmente establecer precios porque se basa tanto en la oferta y la demanda, gestión del territorio, y las perspectivas de crecimiento fuerte en las economías más lento (esto es cierto para los directos, así realmente)

Ventajas distribuidor local: Normalmente, un good ol 'boy establecimiento cuando el vendedor y el comprador se conocen desde hace años (esto sucede en todos los niveles, pero sobre todo a nivel local), la gente local se derecho por la calle y se puede utilizar en situaciones de emergencia, si el chico le compra a suficiente volumen y entonces no hay cargo extra para el usuario final, y el acceso a ambos MFG directo y los grandes distribuidores.

Desventajas distribuidor local: derrotado fácilmente en el precio, variedad de productos, variedad de la tecnología, la falta de personal capacitado, el flujo de caja baja, etc etc etc

Esto es lo que he notado en mis seis meses, estoy seguro de que hay muchos más que necesitan de mención. La forma en que me he fijado además como una persona de ventas es la siguiente: yo voy por las cuentas grandes en este momento, mientras yo soy nuevo. Las grandes cuentas, si la tierra ellos, se ocupará de mí cuando soy nuevo y la construcción de una base de clientes. El dinero que se llevaron de los me permite dedicar tiempo libre en las pequeñas cuentas que me márgenes más altos. I construir grandes cuentas, me gustaría tener 5-10 de estos, a continuación, obtener 20-30 cuentas de mediano plazo. Si pierdo 1 o 2 grandes cuentas, las cuentas de 20-30 medio mantenerme a flote, mientras yo voy después de nuevas cuentas grandes. Realmente no perder el tiempo en las pequeñas cuentas, simplemente porque, básicamente, para pagar el desayuno o algo realmente pequeño.

Voy a decir esto, si usted no puede conseguir una gran cuenta en los primeros 6-8 meses (suponiendo que haya flujo de efectivo que se puede andar todo este tiempo) puede ser en un mundo de problemas. Si usted puede conseguir uno, realmente hacen que ir después de las otras mucho más agradable y menos estresante. Es, simplemente, sólo muy agotador perder tiempo en otra cosa que grandes cuentas en el principio. Usted trabaja tan duro en las medianas y ver las cuentas de 1 / 3 a 1 / 36 del dinero en mi situación.

Si usted tiene alguna otra pregunta, usted puede PM mí. Espero que esto ayude en lo más mínimo!

3/10/2010 9:44:58 AM

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Bringing it back now:

When during human events it gets to be necessary that political people to dissolve bandage to them has connected that them with others and assume them between the Earth energies, of the separated and equal station to which the laws of the nature and Nature' God of s gives them right, a decent respect to the opinions of the humanity requires that they must declare the causes impel that them to the separation. We carry out these truths to be evident in himself, those all the men equal we are created, of which that is equipped by their creator with certain rights unalienable, that it enters these are life, freedom and the search of the happiness. - That to assure these rights, governments are instituted between men, the derivation of their right energies of the consent of the governed salary, - that whenever any form of government gets to be destructive from these ends, he the correct one of people to alter it or to suppress, and to institute to the new government, being put its foundation in such principles and organizing its energies in such form, as far as them it will more likely seem to carry out its security and happiness. The prudence, will dictate in fact that the governments established for a long time do not have to be changed for the causes of the light and the passer-by; and therefore all the shewn of hath of the experience that the humanity is prepared to suffer, whereas the evils is bearable that to straighten itself suppressing the forms to which they are customary. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, persecuting invariable the same object shows a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, its correct one, he is his to have, to send of such government, and to provide to the new protectors for its future security. - So he has been sufferance patient of these colonies; and so now it is the necessity that forces to him to that it alters his previous systems of government. The history of the present king of Great Britain is a history of injuries and the repeated usurpations, all that has in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny on these states. In order to prove this, it lets the facts be put under a sincere world. It has rejected his assent to the laws, the healthiest and necessary one for the public interest. It has prohibited his governors to approve laws of the immediate importance and pressing, unless he is suspended in his operation until his assent must be obtained; and when he is suspended so, it has completely neglected to take care of them. It has rejected to approve other laws for the comfort of great districtos of people, unless that people left the right of the representation in the legislature, an inestimable right to formidable her and to the tyrants only. It has called together legislative bodies in the places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant of the warehouse of his files public, for the unique intention to tire them in compliance with his measures. It has dissolved representative houses in several occasions, to be against with firmness of men to his invasions in the rights of people. It has rejected during long time, after such dissolutions, to do another being chosen, by whom the legislative, incapable energies from destruction, have returned to people AT large for their exercise; the state that follow exposed meanwhile all the dangers of the invasion of outside, and convulsions inside. It has strived to prevent the population with these states; for that intention that obstructs the laws for the naturalization of foreigners; rejecting to pass others to animate its migrations here, and the increase of the conditions of new earth appropriations. It has obstructed the administration of justice rejecting his assent to the laws to settle down judicial energies. He has done to dependent judges in his only for the renting of his offices, and the amount and the payment of his pays. It has erected a multiplicity of new offices, and has sent the nearest clusters of officials to harass our people and to eat outside towards his substance. It has kept between us, in the days of peace, to the right armies without the consent of our legislatures. It has affected to render the independent one of and to the superior military to the civil energy. He has combined with others to hold us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and not recognized by our laws; donor of its assent to its acts of the false legislation: In order to cuartear to the great bodies of troops armed between us: In order to protect them, by a false test against the punishment for any assassin that must trust the inhabitants of these states: In order to cut our commerce with all the parts of the world: For the imposing taxes we without our consent exceed: In order to deprive us in many cases, of the advantage of the test of Jury: In order to transport to us beyond the seas that will be tried for the false offenses: In order to suppress the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing in this an arbitrary government, and enlarging its limits to render it immediately an instrument of the example and the adjustment to introduce the same absolute rule in these colonies to clear our letters, to suppress our laws more valuable and to alter fundamental the forms of our governments: In order to suspend to our own legislatures, and to declare themselves he invested with energy to legislate for us in all the cases any. He has abdicated to the government here, declaring to us outside his protection and undertaking war against us. It has pillaged our seas, devastated our coasts, burned our cities, and destroyed the lives of our people. It is in this time that transports to the great armies of mercenary foreigners to compleat the works of the death, desolation, and the tyranny, begun already with circumstances of & of the cruelty; Perfidia parallel AIDS to hardly in the most Barbarian ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation. It has forced to our taken fellow citizens the captive in the high seas to the arms of the bear against his country, that make the twigs of their friendly and brothers, or fall they themselves by his hands. It has excited domestic insurrections between us, and he has strived to bring in the inhabitants of our borders, the Indian savages without mercy whose known rule military, is a mediocre destruction of all the ages, sexes and conditions. In each stage of these oppressions we have solicitd for the compensation in the humblest terms: Our repeated requests have been only answered by repeated injury. Prince, whose character is marked thus by each act that can define a tyrant, is improper to be the rule of free people. Nor ténganos that wants in attentions to our British brothers. We have noticed them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an untenable jurisdiction envelope. Them we have remembered the circumstances of our emigration and establishment here. We have appealed to its native justice and magnanimity, and we have sworn in them by the bows of ours kindred common to reject these usurpations, that would interrupt inevitable our connections and correspondence. They have been also deaf to the voice of justice and the consanguinity. We must, therefore, to allow in the necessity, that denunci our separation, we maintain and, as we carried out them the rest of humanity, the enemies in war, in friendly of La Paz. , Therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, generally Congress, mounted, appealing to the supreme judge of the world for the uprightness of our intentions, in the name, and by Authority of the good people of these colonies, we published solemnly and to declare, that these united colonies are, and of the right must be free and independent states, acquit that them of all the loyalty to the British crown, and that all the political connection among them and the state of Great Britain, is and must totally be dissolved; and that like free and independent states, has plenary sessions powers to impose war, concludes peace, contracts alliances, they establish commerce, and to make the rest of acts and the things that the independent states can of the right do. - And for the aid of this declaration, with a firm confidence in the protection of divine Providence mutually, we promise the one to the other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.

3/10/2010 9:46:13 AM

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^ I have just added that to my meme folder

thanks for the translation!

3/10/2010 9:47:09 AM

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idgi

3/23/2010 4:31:55 PM

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I realize this thread is about those with a few questions about outside sales.... which I am not. Hear me out, maybe I can offer some insight.

I am in outside sales, which is currently salary+commission, but will move into straight commission starting at the beginning of July 2010. I have been in this position since July 2009. I have competition from several direct manufacturing sales reps, large distributors, and local distributors. Visit http://www.firehoze.com for help with FE Prep Class Review Videos, lessons are organized into a searchable catalog and you can also engage in online discussion with instructors and other students. Here are the advantages and disadvantages of each:

Direct Advantages: Immediate knowledge of new technology, no middle man mark up, one shipping bill (paid by manufacturer or buyer of goods), access to larger range of non-commodity items, control inventory, have access to many distributors that can effectively sell their goods which increases market share, and set prices of commodity they manufacture. Lessons explaining outside sales ([i]with examples) can be found here:

http://www.firehoze.com/categories/outside%20sales

Direct disadvantages: Typically have 1-3 sales reps per region (i.e. southeast, mid-atlantic, northeast, etc.) limiting the number of accounts they can successfully manage/cold-call, lack physical customer service or physical technical service available to or affordable for smaller users or altogether, are sometimes not trustworthy because they will go in behind their distributors that sell their commodity to one account in large quantities (i.e. they missed a big account, and have found out about it through a distributor selling their particular product) which leads to the distributor not selling their product anymore, have too many distributors selling the product ultimately driving the set price down through deviations, possibly rely on distributors to actually sell the product, and competition from other direct sources.

Large distributor advantages: have access to other commodities that go hand in hand with other manufacturers (poor example- grocery stores sell milk as well as cereal), get direct pricing, many locations regionally or nationally easing the shipping burden of buyers with multiple locations, personal service either customer or technical, many sales reps that are able to cover a broader territory, access to multiple manufacturers of the same commodity allowing to keep prices in check, service programs that smaller companies can't offer and direct providers can't match in price or value, and experts of many many commodities as opposed to one or a few.

Large distributor disadvantages: smaller local distributors creating price wars (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), direct mfg's going in behind and stealing business, limited access to all of the mfg's (you won't find Harris Teeter name brands in Food Lion and visa versa), can't truly set prices because it's based on both supply and demand, territory management, and tough growth prospects in slower economies (this is true for direct as well really)

Local distributor advantages: Typically a good ol' boy setting where the seller and the buyer know each other for years (this does happen at all levels, but mostly at the local level), local folks are right down the street and can be used in emergencies, if the local guy buys at high enough volumes then there is no shipping charge to the end user, and access to both direct mfg's and large distributors.

Local distributor disadvantages: easily beaten in price, array of commodities, array of technology, lack of trained staff, low cash flow, etc etc etc.

This is what I have noticed in my six months, I am sure there are plenty more that need mentioning. The way I am setting myself apart as a sales person is this: we start jumping and then along with it go "ooooooooooooo" and get louder like "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH" and then switch to "PACK! PACK! PACK! PACK! OOOOOO PACK! PACK! PACK! PACK! OOOOOOOOOOOO! POWER PACK! POWER PACK! BACK THE PACK!" and then play a loud rockin rap song or somethin. i think it would get things crazy.

I will say this, the site is currently in development phase and is building a base of very helpful lessons and topics. Firehoze also presents a good opportunity for students as well. Once becoming an instructor and uploading a lesson on a topic of your choice, you have the opportunity to receive royalties each time your lesson is purchased. There is no commitment to teaching lessons and plenty of opportunity!

If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest!

[Edited on March 23, 2010 at 4:33 PM. Reason : ///]

3/23/2010 4:33:18 PM

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to me, it looks like outside sales to me

3/23/2010 4:34:19 PM

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I jirrealizzaw dan il-hajt huwa ta 'madwar .... shit t'Alla li I am not. Isma me out, forsi I jistghu joffru xi harsa.

I am fil-bejgh barra, li bhalissa huwa salarju + kummissjoni, izda se timxi fis-kummissjoni dritt li jibdew fil-bidu ta 'Lulju 2010. I gew f'din il-pozizzjoni minn Lulju 2009. Ghandi l-kompetizzjoni minn reps diretta diversi tal-bejgh tal-manifattura, distributuri l-kbar, u d-distributuri lokali. Hawn huma l-vantaggi u zvantaggi ta 'kull:

Vantaggi Direct: l-gharfien immedjat ta 'teknologija gdida, l-ebda marka bniedem tan-nofs up, polza tat-tbahhir wiehed (imhallsa mill-manifattur jew ix-xerrej ta' oggetti), access ghal firxa akbar ta 'oggetti mhux komodità, inventarju ta' kontroll, ikollhom access ghal distributuri hafna li jistghu effettivament jbieghu oggetti taghhom li zzid is-sehem tas-suq, u tistabbilixxi prezzijiet tal-materja prima huma jimmanifatturaw.

Zvantaggi Direct: Tipikament jkollhom 1-3 reps-bejgh ghal kull regjun (Lbic jigifieri, nofs l-Atlantiku, Grigal, ecc) li jillimitaw in-numru ta 'kontijiet jistghu jitmexxew b'success / kiesah-sejha, in-nuqqas fiziku tal-klijent tas-servizz jew is-servizz tekniku disponibbli ghall fizici jew accessibbli ghall-utenti izghar jew ghal kollox, xi kultant m'humiex ta 'min jafdaha minhabba li dawn se jmorru lura fil-distributuri taghhom li jbieghu prodotti taghhom ghal wahda kont fi kwantitajiet kbar (jigifieri qbizt kont kbar, u sabu taf dwar dan permezz ta' distributur li jbiegh prodott partikolari taghhom ) li twassal ghall-distributur li mhux bejgh tal-prodott taghhom aktar, ikollhom id-distributuri wisq tbiegh il-prodott fl-ahhar tas-sewqan il-prezz stabbiliti permezz ta 'devjazzjonijiet, possibilment jiddependu fuq id-distributuri biex effettivament jbiegh il-prodott, u l-kompetizzjoni diretta minn sorsi ohra.

Vantaggi kbar distributur: jkollu access ghal kommoditajiet ohra li jmorru id f'id ma 'manifatturi ohra (ezempju fqar-hwienet tal-merca jbieghu halib kif ukoll tac-cereali), jiksbu prezzijiet diretti, postijiet hafna regjonali jew nazzjonali jhaffu l-piz tat-tbahhir ta' xerrejja ma 'lokazzjonijiet moltiplici, servizz personali jew tal-klijent jew teknici, reps hafna tal-bejgh li huma kapaci li jkopru territorju usa ', l-access ghall-manifatturi multipli ta' l-istess prodotti li jippermettu l-prezzijiet jinzammu taht kontroll, programmi ta 'servizz li l-kumpaniji z-zghar ma jistghu joffru u fornituri diretti ma jistghux jaqblu fil-prezz jew il-valur, u esperti tal-komoditajiet hafna hafna meta mqabbla ma 'wiehed jew xi ftit.

Zvantaggi kbar distributur: distributuri zghar lokali holqien gwerer tal-prezz (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), Mfg dirett jmorru lura fil-serq u tan-negozju, access limitat ghall kollha ta 'l-Mfg's (m'intix ser issib Harris Teeter marki isem fl-Ikel Lion u viza versa), ma jistghux verament jiffissaw il-prezzijiet ghaliex dan huwa ibbazat fuq kemm il-provvista u d-domanda, il-gestjoni fit-territorju, iebsa u l-prospetti ta 'tkabbir fl-ekonomiji aktar bil-mod (dan huwa minnu ghall-dirett kif ukoll verament)

Vantaggi Lokali distributur: Tipikament twaqqif ta 'Tifel ol tajjeb "meta l-bejjiegh u x-xerrej jafu lil xulxin ghas-snin (dan ma jigri fil-livelli kollha, imma l-aktar fuq il-livell lokali), folks lokali huma dritt fl-triq u jistghu jintuzaw fl - emergenzi, jekk il-Guy lokali jixtri fuq volumi gholja bizzejjed allura ma hemmx hlas tbahhir lill-utent ahhari, u l-access kemm ghal Mfg dirett u distributuri l-kbar.

Zvantaggi Lokali distributur: facilment imsawwat fil-prezz, firxa ta 'komoditajiet, firxa ta' teknologija, nuqqas ta 'staff imharreg, likwidità baxxa, ecc ecc ecc

Dan huwa dak li ghadni nnutata fis-sitt xhur tieghi, jiena zgur hemm hafna iktar li jkunu jehtiegu li jsemmi. Il-mod iffissar I am myself apparti bhala persuna ta 'bejgh huwa dan: mmur wara l-kontijiet kbar dritt issa filwaqt li jien godda. Il-kontijiet big, jekk I-art taghhom, se jiehdu hsieb tat me filwaqt I am godda u bini ta 'klijentela. Il-flus maghmula off ta 'dawk jippermetti lili biex jiffokaw il-hin liberu fuq il-kontijiet izghar li nikseb me margini oghla. I jibnu kontijiet kbar, nixtieq li jkollhom 5-10 dawn, imbaghad nikseb kontijiet medju 20-30. Jekk titlef I 1 jew 2-kontijiet kbar, il-kontijiet medju 20-30 me jzommu fil-wicc waqt li mmur wara l-kontijiet kbar godda. I don't really hela ta 'hin fuq il-kontijiet zghar semplicement ghaliex huma bazikament jhallsu ghall-kolazzjon jew xi haga verament zghar.

I se nghid dan, jekk inti ma tistax tikseb kont kbir fl-ewwel 6-8 xhur (jekk inti ghandek fluss tal-flus li inti tista 'rikba dan twil) inti tista' tkun fil-dinja ta 'nkwiet. Jekk int tista 'tiehu wahda, li tippermetti tassew li ghaddejjin wara l-ohrajn hafna aktar pjacevoli u inqas stressanti. Huwa sempliciment biss hafna tezawrixxi wasting kwalunkwe zmien fuq xi haga ohra milli kontijiet kbar fil-bidu nett. Inti tahdem biss bhala iebsa dwar il-kontijiet ta 'daqs medju u ara 1 / 3 ghal 1 / 36 tal-flus fis-sitwazzjoni tieghi.

Jekk ghandek xi mistoqsijiet ohra, inti tista 'PM me. Nispera li din tghin fil-icken!

3/23/2010 5:12:02 PM

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