If one was to have taken a reasonably sized single hit off of a small bowl on St. Pats, and this person normally doesn't smoke pot:

Would it show up in a drug test?
And would it be in a quantity that is high enough to justify not hiring the person for a job?

3/24/2010 11:01:16 AM

I'm fairly certain that any quantity justifies a company not hiring someone

[Edited on March 24, 2010 at 11:02 AM. Reason : o]

3/24/2010 11:02:45 AM

A week should get a single hit out of your system for urine test

3/24/2010 11:04:35 AM

you're fine.

3/24/2010 11:07:17 AM

Can you fail a test by second hand smoke?

3/24/2010 11:09:07 AM

You're fucked.

3/24/2010 11:09:29 AM

Just go to erowid ok

3/24/2010 11:10:20 AM

I once failed a test by third hand smoke

3/24/2010 11:10:46 AM

An easy way to clean your system is to eat lemon poppy seed muffins or scones at every meal. Extra poppy seeds, if possible. Sprinkle poppy seeds on everything you eat and snack on them when you get a chance.

Poppy seeds are a diuretic and will remove any remnant of the weed.

3/24/2010 11:11:19 AM

I've never understood how someone, knowing they'd have to take a drug test for a job, would do something to jeopardize it

that being said you should be fine, just exercise and drink water between now and then, if you increase your metabolism it will get it out faster, but as slave said 1 week should be enough for a single hit of a small bowl

3/24/2010 11:14:01 AM

pot is so 2002

3/24/2010 11:15:02 AM

^^^And then you'll fail for appearing to be hooked on heroin/opium.


[Edited on March 24, 2010 at 11:17 AM. Reason : .]

3/24/2010 11:15:38 AM

People still smoke pot? What is this, California?

3/24/2010 11:17:49 AM

drink 2 gallons of water

you'll be fine

3/24/2010 11:18:00 AM

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"^^^And then you'll fail for appearing to be hooked on heroin/opium."

SHHHH!

That was my point. http://blogcritics.org/culture/article/eating-two-poppy-seed-bagels-can/

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" I thought that this was another of the "alligators in our sewers"-type urban legends until I read Anahad O'Connor's piece on the subject in the January 11 New York Times Science section. Every week, he takes a claim like this, then investigates it for his "Really?" feature. He delved into the subject of poppy seeds and heroin, both of which come from the opium poppy, with Dr. Timothy P. Rohrig of the Regional Forensic Science Center in Kansas. O'Connor wrote, • "Eating a couple of bagels heavily coated with poppy seeds can result in morphine in a person's system for hours, leading a routine drug test to come back positive." • Because of this possibility, the federal government recently raised the threshold for opiates in workplace testing to 2,000 nanograms a milliliter, up from 300. So stick to sesame seeds on judgment day, would be my advice. "

3/24/2010 11:19:29 AM

It was more of a question out of curiosity rather than a question of necessity.
-I ducked the bowl with the job mandated drug test angle-

I don't know jack about pot and drug tests.

[Edited on March 24, 2010 at 11:22 AM. Reason : ]

3/24/2010 11:20:00 AM

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"I'm fairly certain that any quantity justifies a company not hiring someone"

3/24/2010 11:20:46 AM

How about you not be a dumbass and don't smoke pot?

3/24/2010 11:23:07 AM

^
Thanks.

Also, you shouldn't drink alcohol, or use tobacco.
And wear a helmet when biking, and use your seat belt when in a car.
And don't eat more than 80 grams of fat per day.

I mean, what?...are you stupid?

We should be thanking wdprice3 and other nannies for reminding us how to live.

3/24/2010 11:41:14 AM

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"I've never understood how someone, knowing they'd have to take a drug test for a job, would do something to jeopardize it"

Exactly. That's why I don't really have sympathy for people in this situation. Either you're a raging pothead, or you're a dumbass. Either way, the company doesn't want to hire you. It's as much of an idiocy screening test as a drug screening test.

3/24/2010 11:41:57 AM

your hair is wet becuase you dad? cumed all over it

3/24/2010 11:42:09 AM

^^^irrelevant. none of those things will keep you from getting a job.


sorry but the rules of the game are the rules of the game.

3/24/2010 11:44:29 AM

^
I never meant it to be relevant to the job issue. wdprice3's statement is one about not smoking pot, in general -- that's what I was responding to.

3/24/2010 11:47:02 AM

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" It's as much of an idiocy screening test as a drug screening test."

3/24/2010 12:07:11 PM

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"I'm fairly certain that any quantity justifies a company not hiring someone"

This is correct, but realistically, the vast majority of employers would never order a zero tolerance urine test. However, even if they did want a zero tolerance test, they would be far more likely to do a zero tolerance blood/hair follicle test instead, as it is far more accurate.

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"It's as much of an idiocy screening test as a drug screening test.""

Exactly, if you cannot pass a drug test, you don't deserve the job anyway.



There are two approaches to urine drug testing; Cut-off type tests and Limit of detection tests.

A cut-off type test has an administrative "limit" set to report a positive result. If the drug is identified, but is below the limit, it is reported as "not detected". These are the most common urine tests performed by labs and requested by employers.

The Limit of detection test reports any detectable amount present within the capabilities of the laboratory. This is typically known as the Zero tolerance testing procedure. SAMSHA certified laboratories are required to adhere to established cutoff concentrations. In other words, a specified amount of the drug or drugs is allowed to be present and still be reported as "negative". Therefore, zero tolerance tests require you to seek out certain labs in some cases, and usually cost the employer more money as well.

Generally speaking, most labs like Quest diagnostics do not perform zero tolerance tests by default, because the vast majority of employers use the cut-off type test, which has an accepted limit within the urine. If you were applying for a job at the SBI, you may run into the zero tolerance testing.

[Edited on March 24, 2010 at 1:53 PM. Reason : -]

3/24/2010 1:44:52 PM

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"Exactly, if you cannot pass a drug test, you don't deserve the job anyway."

3/24/2010 1:55:42 PM

study hard!

3/24/2010 2:10:37 PM

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"I'm fairly certain that any quantity justifies a company not hiring someone"

Actually, no, that's generally not how it works. Not going to get into the specifics too much, but there is a "cutoff" of sorts, at least for most off-site labs that do drug testing for any normal job you're going to get. You can have trace amounts of THC metabolites, so as long as you're below 50 ng/ml, the test will still come back as pass.

There are some exceptions. Sensitive government or military jobs, or possibly even some private sector jobs, put the cutoff down to 10 or 15 ng/ml.

As far as the circumstance in the OP, a single hit could very well show up on a drug screening in the days after the bowl hit occurred. One thing to remember is that the THC clears out of someone that doesn't usually smoke faster than a chronic smoker, so a single hit is likely to not show up at all after around a week. Maybe even 4-5 days. Every person is different, though, so there's no hard and fast rule. A person that is fat, doesn't exercise, and smokes pot all day every day (not unlike various TWW posters) is probably not going to be able to pass a drug test for at least 3 weeks.

[Edited on March 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2010 2:11:21 PM

^ Dude, did you read my post?

3/24/2010 2:12:02 PM

It's entirely impossible that he smoked a bowl on St. Pat's and then learned of a job opportunity thereafter. So he MUST be both an idiot and a horrible human being. No other explanation possible.

3/24/2010 2:12:45 PM

I did now, but when I originally hit reply you hadn't edited it say all that.

3/24/2010 2:12:55 PM

Most people that have never done any drugs just assume urine tests are all or nothing. The truth is, it is fairly easy to pass a urine test with a little homework, take home drug tests, and a brain.

3/24/2010 2:17:57 PM

Yeah, but everyone knows all potheads are stupid. Personally, I just turn to the government-sanctioned alternative: alcoholism. That's what all the smart kids flock to, anyway. Plus, let's think about it. As an employer, would you rather hire someone that was black out drunk 6 hours before work, or someone that smoked a bowl?

3/24/2010 2:24:05 PM

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"Just go to erowid ok"

man i haven't thought about that website in a LONG long time

3/24/2010 2:28:35 PM

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"government-sanctioned alternative: alcoholism."

that's my boat.

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"It's entirely impossible that he smoked a bowl on St. Pat's and then learned of a job opportunity thereafter. So he MUST be both an idiot and a horrible human being. No other explanation possible."

paerabol: because obviously people don't quit or get fired within a week of St Pat's

3/25/2010 12:03:46 AM

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"As an employer, would you rather hire someone that was black out drunk 6 hours before work, or someone that smoked a bowl?"

Definitely one that has smoked a bowl.

3/25/2010 12:37:53 AM

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"DRINK MOAR WATER"

3/25/2010 10:40:00 AM