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I will do everything in my power to avoid jail from now on,
although i dont know if its worse or better than i imagined, but the graphic details and nuances of jail make it seem real and horrifying



[Edited on October 19, 2010 at 8:57 AM. Reason : .]

10/19/2010 8:57:29 AM

10/19/2010 8:58:48 AM

thanks for sharing that relevant information

10/19/2010 9:01:28 AM

^^ LOL

10/19/2010 9:10:54 AM

Thanks for causing me to waste an hour or so of my time

But it was actually a really interesting read. But if you're afraid of words, I wouldn't reccomend it

10/19/2010 10:56:46 AM

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"i was raped only once - by a homiegot with the tiniest cock you've ever seen. I'm a fat fuck, and I swear that thing barely reached my asshole through my enourmous ass cheeks. It was all I could do to not laugh."

hahahaahahaha

10/19/2010 11:42:58 AM

I just took likw an hour to read that whole thing. Fucking crazy

10/19/2010 11:53:58 AM

I too, am afraid of words.

10/19/2010 11:58:38 AM

Interesting that his buddies were disappointed in him when they found out he went to college. Like, why the fuck are you out committing armed robbery when you have an education?

The part where he dropped E with his cellmate and then they blew each other was kinda
LOL when he says it it was kinda awkward in the cell the next week.

10/19/2010 12:14:18 PM

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"i was raped only once"

i hope he was hot.

10/19/2010 12:14:34 PM

2 years is nothing. Guy comes across as a pussy. I could do 2 years no problem.

10/19/2010 12:18:36 PM

Jail does not equal Prison.

[Edited on October 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM. Reason : ]

10/19/2010 12:33:12 PM

Seriously. And what is so gay about dead lifting your cellmate for exercise? Sounds like a helluva idea.

10/19/2010 12:34:33 PM

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"Jail does not equal Prison."

true, but i assumed he was in prison. sentences of 1 year or more are generally not held in a county facility. you're transferred to the state.

can anyone post the words?

my firewall blocks gaming sites at work.




[Edited on October 19, 2010 at 12:40 PM. Reason : ]

10/19/2010 12:40:36 PM

^He was in prison. He was convicted and sentenced of a crime, so he was in prison. You can be in jail for longer than a year, but that's typically only if your wait for trial is that long. And prisons really vary as to the level of comfort. Some are very "campy" in nature. A lot of the people I see in jail can't wait to get to prison.

10/19/2010 12:42:49 PM

This is really fascinating stuff.

It makes me want to donate some of my extra books to a prison.

Is there a Prison Books in Raleigh?

I don't want to donate to a religious organization if I don't have to because I'm afraid they will censor my donations

10/19/2010 12:44:52 PM

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"In terms of it being 'college for criminals'... It's not really the case. Even in high security, with a lot of violent offenders, the number one crime keeping people inside is drugs. Most guys learned more about drug crime from TV than they did inside. Are you really going to take advice about crime from someone who was caught? I heard so many bullshit stories your ears will bleed. About how eucalyptus oil prevents drug dogs from finding your gear. About how Glocks are really made of plastic and can't be picked up by metal detectors. Yes. Die Hard 2 came out 20 years ago and people inside still buy that story."

haha

10/19/2010 12:45:36 PM

You CAN donate books to the Internationals Prison Books Collective in Chapel Hill

http://www.prisonbooks.info/getinvolved.html#donate

218 N. Graham St., Chapel Hill, NC 27516

10/19/2010 12:48:21 PM

^You can't donate books to the Wake County Jail. They have a "library" but the books have to come directly from the manufacturer. Once it's inside the jail, it can be donated to the library. So, if you donate books, they have to be shipped from Amazon or something like that, and not second hand.

[Edited on October 19, 2010 at 12:49 PM. Reason : Again, different rules for jails vs. prisons.]

10/19/2010 12:48:29 PM

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"He was convicted and sentenced of a crime, so he was in prison."

well, you can be "convicted and sentenced of a crime" and be still held in the county jail. misdemeanors and so forth.

but we are in agreement, anyone that's sentenced for any major crime (felonies, gross misdemeanors) is going to a prison. I believe the cutoff between jail and prison, is 365 consecutive days or longer you become remanded to the state, and go to a state prison rather than serving the time in a county jail. but it may vary by state, and i could be completely oversimplifying it.

and yeah, my experience has been that people who know they are going to get sentenced to prison, can't wait to get out of the county jail. because a county jails are uncomfortable, overcrowded, noisy, miserable shitholes compared to most minimum- and medium-security prisons.

once they get to prison, they get established in their routine and can pass the time in a relatively comfortable manner. (compared to county jail, anyhow)






[Edited on October 19, 2010 at 12:54 PM. Reason : ]

10/19/2010 12:51:18 PM

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"And prisons really vary as to the level of comfort. Some are very "campy" in nature."

feather boas and falsettos all around

10/19/2010 12:52:15 PM

10/19/2010 12:55:39 PM

^^^I love the people hanging around on Friday's after 5 at the jail waiting to serve their "weekend sentences."

10/19/2010 12:56:53 PM

this has been around for months. all of this was posted on 4chan, so it's probably all bullshit

10/19/2010 1:02:34 PM

^^ yeah, i had to do that for 5 weekends in a row (10 day sentence). I felt pretty fucking lame but i always smuggled cigarettes in so that made it tolerable




[Edited on October 19, 2010 at 1:09 PM. Reason : ]

10/19/2010 1:08:17 PM

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"this has been around for months. all of this was posted on 4chan, so it's probably all bullshit"

10/19/2010 1:38:00 PM

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"So here it is, the top 10 worst things about prison that you never knew about: 2. Death I saw 12 deaths inside. Three of them were at the hands of screws(correctional officers). One of those was a gunshot to the head while a guy was trying to escape. The other two were beatings, and I didn't know they'd died until later. It's not right to call a prison shanking a 'stabbing' because that's not how you die. Inside, we called it 'digging a hole' or 'digging a well' like 'he got a well dug in him' or 'pulled out a hole'. The reason for this is the make shift weapons used inside are not easy to kill with. You basically make a hole as fast as you can, by stabbing as fast as you can, and then you try and get a grip inside it and just start pulling. I saw this right up close one time. I had the distinct misfortune of having my cell behind a pillar, like a bulkhead kind of thing in the middle of the block. So if you wanted to shank someone, it was a great place to hide. On the flip side, it meant the boss' gave it a lot of extra attention, which was bad for rubbing one out or taking a hit. Two guys were loitering around the pillar one day, waiting for this fresh kid to wander past. Prison gossip said he's been worked over on his first night by someone who wanted him for a wife, but the kid fought back and nearly bit some fucker's nuts off. So his friends wait with a t-shirt, and a filed down toothbrush. They've cracked down on plastic toothbrushes, but there used to be enough of them that a lot of guys have them stashed away. You can file down the ends on the concrete to a point. One guy wraped a t-shirt around the kid's neck and lifted him off the ground from behind, and the other starts stabbing his gut. After a few stabs, he starts trying to get his fingers inside and he just pulls all this meat out. I thought he was going to pull out his intestines like you'd see in a horror movie, but instead, he just pulls out fist after fist of this yellow jelly shit, and then big hunks of meat like raw mince. Screw's arrived and tasered everyone. Even the kid. He was on his side, right in front of my cell, and every jolt from the taser made the big hole in his stomach smoke. You don't see something like that and not have it fuck you up worse than you already were for being incarcerated."

10/19/2010 2:02:25 PM

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"I will do everything in my power to avoid jail from now on,"

You say it as if it is hard to avoid prison.

OR

You say it as if you commit crimes here and there and have never been caught but perhaps have come close to being caught a couple of times.

10/19/2010 2:14:55 PM

I wanna join a contrapedophile group

10/19/2010 2:35:28 PM

This is a 17,451 word post that is 31 pages in Word, so can't exactly copy/paste here. 92,273 characters with spaces.

For the question about him only being in a jail:

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"I was in a level 5 facility, (they call in V inside because the State uses roman numerals and you don't find a lot of convicts know what roman numerals are. I Romans for that matter. ) - but it was part of a privately run string of prisons, each with anywhere between a few hundred and a few thousands convicts."

Here's the top 10 things horrible about jail:

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"10. The Smell Prison smells like shit. Smells worse than shit. You know the smell you imagine jenkem to smell like? Imagine that, only it's being rubbed on the arm pits of a sweaty mexican and then his armpit pubes are being set fire too. It's that bad. No one flushes the fucking john. Ever. You know how clean prison looks in all the pictures? It is, because we spend all fucking day cleaning it. And then convicts just basically shit themselves for a laugh. I switched buses on the way back and sat next to this guy wearing cologne. I'm not gay (well, as not gay as you can be after being inside) but I got a boner as soon as I smelt it. Fucking amazing. 9.White people. After the first year, I was ashamed to be white. In the world, white people are capable of all kinds of great things, and all kinds of bad things. But inside we're just universally cunts. Aryan Brotherhood weren't a big presence in my block, but they were bad enough to make you kind of wish your mother had been raped by a nigger. And that's before you meet your boss's. Correctional Services officers come in all flavours, but white screws were the worst. Black screws, you could tell were just poor niggers trying to get by in a shitty job. Only white guys ever seemed to enjoy their shit. Rape, dispite the rumours, is not a big deal inside. It doesn't happen that often. But everytime it happened on my block it was a white guy. And every time anyone got murdered, it was a white guy. There were 33 murders while I was inside, 12 of them in my block. All because white cunts couldn't keep their dicks in their pants, or else 'cut someone's eyes' which was slang for stealing someone's shit. Being black in prison would have been awesome. 8. Getting fat. There is no gym equipment in prison. That whole, 'bunch of guys sitting around pumping iron' image you have? Forget it. Gym equipment is a weapon, and weapons are forbidden. Our block had one treadmill that would occassionaly work. You couple that with high fat food, all day, everyday, you start to go flabby really quickly. One of the things that occupies a lot convict's days is finding someway to try and do some physical activity. After about six months I could feel my muscle mass going, so me and my cellmate would deadlift each other for a few hours. Gayest thing you've ever seen, but it filled in the time. 7. Solitary I was fucking terrified of solitary confinement when I first went inside, which contributed to me behaving myself. Until I realised that solitary isn't something you can hold off by just not being a dick. It's a reality of life and you will, at somepoint, be put in solitary for no fucking reason at all. Usually, because there is a remand inmate that needs to be cycled into gen pop before trial and they need to free up your cell - so you go into solitary because there aren't any other beds. I did two months of that all up. No books, no blankets, no light, 23 hour lockdown. Most they can do is 1 week at a stretch - worst part was knowing you were going to go back after a week if the block was too over crowded. You spent your whole time in gen pop just anxious as fuck because you could get dragged off the chain at any moment and sent back. 6. The Drugs After a while, drugs become a viable option inside. There is a lot on offer. If you can get it out in the world, you can get it inside - for a better price strangely enough, considering the difficulty of getting it in. That is if it is what your man says it is. I decided to get onto horse after a few months, mostly as something to do. I'd tried heroin outside, but hadn't liked it since getting on the nod seemed like a waste of time. But inside, it's great - a shot in solitary can make a week pass in no time at all. Problem is the shit it will be cut with. Flour, baking soda, jell-o crystals - all shit that should not be in a vein. After a while, you just end up doing things that outside, you never would have dreamed of. I was paranoid about getting the AIDS, so I kept this one needle the whole time I was inside. Went rusty and I ended up spending a month in sick bay with tetenus. When I couldn't score for junk, I scored for codeine tablets. Grew my thumb nail long and wrecked it on the concrete so it was sharp enough to cut open my thigh, and would stick the crushed up tablet inside. Yeah, shit got that bad. "

10/19/2010 2:35:45 PM

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" 5. The Economy I joked to my cell mate on the first day that at least the GFC couldn't fuck us inside. He'd been done for assaulting a cop when his house got taken by the bank. But within months 'GFC Nigger' became the standard reply to any query as to how black market prices were suddenly going through the roof. The price of a deck of smokes tripled. There was an actual economic reason about this. I went away in Michigan, where a lot of people lost their houses, mostly poor people already. When they had to move away from the prison, it meant they couldn't bring their loved ones as much contraband group, which meant the price of what there was sky rocketed. And the worse things got, the more the people who worked in the store would wonk and take home with them, which meant stocks ran low which fucked us even further. Bet you didn't read about that one in the Wall Street Journal. 4. Losing everyone you ever loved. No one ever talks about this because prison makes you a hard ass. Or at least you teach yourself to think it does. The first ones to go are your friends. They tell you they'll write and send you stuff - take every friend you've ever had, now pick one. There will be one that actually does it. But they'll stop after a few months. Then your sister - they might say they'll wait, but you know they won't. I called mine on my second week and told her it was over. Apart from the total shock of going away, I couldn't stand spending every night wondering if she was getting cranked by some other dude. Was one less thing to worry about. My kid, who was about to turn 1 when I went away, will never have any idea who the fuck I am. Her mom took her away the second I went inside. Never called. Don't even know where to begin looking. My Mom and Dad were the worst. They promised me when I went inside that they'd stick by me if I stuck by them, that all they wanted was the occassional phone call to let them know I was okay, and they'd make sure they visited regularly. I was so fucked up half the time I forgot when visiting day even was. I realised, and tried to tell the boss that I didn't want to see them, that I was too messed up. So the cunts dragged me by the hair through the block to the visiting room and propped me up on a chair in front of them and laughed. They never came back, and they haven't seen me since I got out. 3. Lonliness An old timer told me that when he first went inside, in the 80s, prison was all about cliques. There were different gangs, people stuck together because of ethnicity, even religion. Back then there were Irish Catholic cliques, Nation of Islam cliques - even white collar guys started cliques to avoid getting stepped on. One thing the boss' do very well is create an atmosphere of constant paranoia. If you get shaken down and you get contrapedophile group found on you, they'll stick you in solitary and finger your best friend for setting you up. If you come inside with a pre-existing gang affiliation, like a lot of black guys do, they start by stepping on your friends straight away and blaming you for it until you're a pariah. Forget about the yard being full of big groups of guys chilling together. No one hangs with anymore than three people for a stretch. If you're seen with a big group, you'll be targeted by the screws. Mostly, people do their time alone. Pacing the yard, or even just ignoring their cell mates completely. That gets to you more than anything. The constant suspicion, and knowing you're alone. 2. Death posted above 1. Getting Out On my last day I started writing this list in my head, and thought it would be funny to post it on the Chans. But really, now I've written it, it's not funny. For lols, I was originally going to talk about prison rape. But really? It's a small part of doing time. On any given block, you might only have a dozen or so convicts who are likely to rape someone. And they go after the same kind of convicts every time too. Because if you try to rape the wrong guy... you might end up with your guts pulled out. That's not to say consensual gay sex doesn't happen. I had it, and I enjoyed it. I'm not going to go and fuck a man on the outside, but a combination of drugs, lonliness and boredom do strange things. So instead of rape, the thing that tops my list was getting out. After 18 months, I felt like I had the whole prison kick down. I felt like I belonged. New guys looked up to me, like someone who'd seen shit and made it through. As I scaled back on my pretty huge habit, I started to get this kind of zen calm about incarceration, and I liked to think I helped a few guys through their first weeks. The last months before I left was the happiest of my entire life. I started making lists, like this one. Lists of what I was going to do. Lists of things I was going to eat. Lists of places I was going to go. I almost felt like I'd had a near death experience, and now I had to live a better life. Then I left. Two years is a long time. The world literally changes without you. I got off the bus and went to my favourite bar. It was empty. I went to a cafe my friends used to touch dicks at. None of them were there. I went to my house, pulled the boards off and went inside. Everything was just as I'd left it with two years worth of dust. Most depressing thing you've ever seen. I lay down on my bed and paranoia started setting in. I realised I was pretty much squating and was paranoid about being picked up by the cops and breaching my parole, so I went to my parents house. They let me in, but told me I couldn't stay until they were sure I was off the drugs. I checked into a motel and sat on the edge of the bed, watching MTV and ordering Pizza. I must have ordered like five pizzas from five different places, stayed up till dawn. Thing about prison, is that sleep becomes like a chore you do each day. You're never really tired, so you never really want to sleep, it just breaks up the time. I felt like I didn't want to sleep ever again. Next morning I decided to go for a drive, and thought I'd rent a car - but my driver's licence had expired. I went to get a new one, but because I'd been inside they needed me to get a letter from my parole officer. So I just wandered around for a day. Felt like everyone was staring at me. You just feel completely lost."

10/19/2010 2:36:09 PM

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"I don't want to donate to a religious organization if I don't have to because I'm afraid they will censor my donations"

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"I scored a copy of William Gibson's Mona Lisa Overdrive from another con when he left. It was a bizarre book to find inside, and was probably the best thing I read the whole time, since the library mostly stocked Ludlum-style airport novels - which I read anyway. Strangely absent from the library was The Da Vinci Code, Twilight and the Harry Potter novels. Apparently any book challenged by the State's school board - even if it makes it through, isn't allowed inside."

It sounds like the prison system censors books harder than any religious organization would.

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"Are you really going to take advice about crime from someone who was caught? I heard so many bullshit stories your ears will bleed. About how eucalyptus oil prevents drug dogs from finding your gear. About how Glocks are really made of plastic and can't be picked up by metal detectors. Yes. Die Hard 2 came out 20 years ago and people inside still buy that story."

A guy I met last friday seriously just paid $10 too much on a speeding ticket because he thinks the state will never close his case if he doesn't cash the refund check and it won't be reported to the insurance company. I almost facepalmed IRL

[Edited on October 19, 2010 at 2:39 PM. Reason : s]

10/19/2010 2:36:46 PM

I think the difference between jail and prison depends more on the crime rather than the time, although obviously crimes that involve prisons also involve doing more time. I know someone who spent two years in county jail for his 4th dwi.

just so you know

10/19/2010 2:37:04 PM

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"Literacy levels in prison are fucking awful. If I were in a gang, when I wasn't selling crack and doing drive by shootings, I'd be making sure prospective gang members knew how to read because inside, there isn't much else to do. A lot of cons end up teaching themselves how to read because there isn't much else to do apart from get a library book. But writing is fucking horrendous. My spelling is bad, and as a few people have pointed out it's even worse from having studied abroad, but you would be hard pressed to find many convicts who can string a sentence together with a pen. One of my cellmates was functionally illiterate and so with nothing else to do, I'd help him write letters for his appeals and back to his daughter. He told his people, who then started coming to me as well, so for a while, I had a steady supply of Reece's Pieces in return for helping people write letters. It wasn't a Dead Poet's Society moment or anything - I didn't teach anyone how to write and we didn't all end up holding hands and feeling we'd grown as humans. It was just a good way to pass time. But sooner or later I got asked how come I could write, and so I told them I'd been to University, thinking I'd just get put upon for a while - convicts will pick on you for anything. But instead everyone just seemed really disappointed. Instead of cracking jokes about it, they seemed genuinely upset that a white kid, with a college degree, would be so stupid as to get himself locked up inside. So I was made to feel kind of embarrased, and ashamed at having an education - a shame that I still haven't kicked having got out. As for talking to my parents about it, I had lunch with them today. My Mom clearly doesn't want to know about it, she just seems to think that now I'm back that 'part of my life is over' - but my Dad seems really cut up over it. He keeps coming outside with me for cigarettes - he doesn't smoke, and he just stands there as if he really wants to ask me something. I know what it, I know he wants to know if I was raped inside... and it kind of pisses me off. As if he thinks that the worst thing that can happen to you in prison is being raped. So no, I haven't really discussed it with my parents and I probably won't."

10/19/2010 2:39:47 PM

Not for any particular reason, but who's to say this is not an elaborate troll?

10/19/2010 3:12:54 PM

It probably is but at the same time, it's entertaining.

10/19/2010 3:14:57 PM

I believe the "yellow jelly shit" part of the story; that would be known as body fat

also I think I figured out some of the wordfilters on 99chan...

girlfriend->sister (this one was mentioned in that thread)
band->pedophile group
fag->homie
hang out->touch dicks
:3->HNNNNNNNNNG

and I wondered why he used so many Britticisms as an American, but then I read that he graduated from the University of Sydney and had extensive experience with a UK English spell-checker

10/19/2010 4:00:18 PM

"Britticisms," huh?

Also: PAY ME MY MOTHERFUCKING MONEY, CHUNKBUTTER

10/19/2010 4:02:29 PM

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"I thought he was going to pull out his intestines like you'd see in a horror movie, but instead, he just pulls out fist after fist of this yellow jelly shit, and then big hunks of meat like raw mince."

10/19/2010 4:32:58 PM

Not as bad as the story from about 10 years ago by the guy who went AWOL from the navy and then got raped a ton in prison.

Somebidy dig up that gem.

10/19/2010 4:45:01 PM

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"girlfriend->sister (this one was mentioned in that thread) band->pedophile group fag->homie hang out->touch dicks :3->HNNNNNNNNNG"

MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW

also, great read. would recommend.

[Edited on October 19, 2010 at 10:43 PM. Reason : i wondered what the fuck a "Bono wristpedophile group" was]

[Edited on October 19, 2010 at 10:45 PM. Reason : and I spent even longer trying to parse "3HNNNNNNNNNG0" into "3:30"]

10/19/2010 10:42:51 PM

has anyone verified that whole thing is not some made up bullshit

like by getting a name and verifying that person really got convicted of a crime and was incarcerated for a period of time

10/19/2010 10:47:27 PM

his posts make it clear that he (understandably) doesn't want to reveal his full identity to 4chan.

did you read it? do you really think he's lying about the whole thing? I don't think so.

10/20/2010 7:44:32 AM

post moar from the article for the people at work.

10/20/2010 9:16:27 AM

jail or prison?

10/20/2010 9:48:59 AM

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"You know how a lot of people that hang around these boards will say how they're desensitised to sexuality? How years of the most twisted porn the Internet's underbelly can offer has made them numb? I guess I was like that going in. If you had have asked me, the day before I went inside, what my ultimate sexual fantasy was I'd have said something stupid like 'Emma Waton, a rubber tube, two mexican fighting fish, a chainsaw and a bucket of grease'. Now, I shit you not, my answer would more likely be 'a beautiful woman that loves me'. Every convict has a jack bank. Scraps of magazines, smuggled porn, that kind of thing. I used to keep mine under the inner sole of my sneaker. If you took a survey of what convicts keep in their jack bank, you'd be shocked to learn that mostly, it's women's faces. The single most sought after item in the common area was the TV guide. Because you'd get full page ads for movies and beautiful women. Fucking up the TV guide was a hangable offence, since our TV was pre recorded and edited to cut out the news, and anything not G rated, you needed the TV guide to keep track of what you were missing out on. As an aside, one of the most surreal moments inside was the Superbowl, all these convicts crowded around this caged screen watching a repeat of Blue's Clues - muttering about how the Superbowl was really on. It was like even though they couldn't watch it, they wanted to be a part of a national, communal activity. Two days later they replayed the Superbowl, with the ads and half time show taken out - no one watched it. How fucking weird is that? "

10/20/2010 9:50:59 AM

because they probably wound up missing the 60 minutes of actual football

which can easily be missed given being accustomed to typical broadcasts

10/20/2010 9:53:50 AM

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"As for solitary: The offical term for it is 'administrative segregation' or ad seg, or the dungeon. Our was a low, hexagonal building with no exits and one entry, through a wire fenched tunnel. Inside your cell, which about two, three feet smaller than a normal cell and only as narrow as the door, you have two doors, one in out into the main room where the boss' have access to the other six room, and the other door to a fenced yard no more than three paces across from corner to corner. That door would unlock for an hour, than a light would come on telling you to go back inside, than you might get one or two more hours a day if they need to hold another convict in your cell before transfer, or before being taken to infirmary. But you never see another human the whole time. Standard time in ad seg was three days to a week. Longer for the most serious infractions. My first time in solitary was during a mass transfer, which is when our pen would be filled with extra inmates from another pen over night before being moved on. I was there for three days. The first day wasn't so bad. In the beginning, I thought 'this is interesting' at least. And I kind of enjoyed being alone. I jacked off a lot. The second day, I read the bible. Which is the only book allowed in ad seg. The third day... I began to imagine I'd been forgotten about, and I started to panic. Like Mau-dib says "Fear is the Mind Killer". Once you start down the road, there is no going back. You think you can handle it, like being alone isn't so bad, like it's almost a relief... But they make the room just the slight little bit too small. You lose track of time. You can't see the light or figure out what day it is. You resort to counting out loud the seconds. You can't distract yourself anymore and you start pacing but there isn't enough room to pace and it just makes it worse. I'd never had a panic attack before, so I didn't know what to expect. My heart just started pounding out of my chest and I felt like I was going to faint. I wanted to faint, so I could at least sleep and waste some time. But I couldn't. I ended up by stay in ad seg screaming for help, until they came in and tasered me. I woke up back in my old cell. The next morning, they pulled me out of bed, and said because I fucked up in ad seg... I'd be put back in ad seg. For a week. I screamed and tried to get away on my way back so they put leg cuffs on me and didn't take them off. I got tasered again. This just made it worse. That was when I decided to get some dope as soon as I was out. On the plus side, I now have scary accurate recall of obscure biblical passages. "

10/20/2010 9:54:05 AM

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"OPEN UP DUFRESNE"

10/20/2010 9:55:49 AM

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"I think the difference between jail and prison depends more on the crime rather than the time, although obviously crimes that involve prisons also involve doing more time. I know someone who spent two years in county jail for his 4th dwi."

interesting. i don't know which would be worse: to do two years in a shitty county jail where you're bored out of your mind, or two years in a prison with amenities.

some county jails are really bad places, because there isn't any money, or the sheriff's department is rotten. I've been in a few jails (Raleigh NC, Columbus OH, Wichita KS) and they're pretty crappy. But I have no experience with prison. The only thing I know is, that guys i've talked to in jail that were going to transfer to prison couldn't wait to get out and into the prison system. These guys had been in prison before. Or so they said.

County jails vary widely even within the same state. I hear King County (Seattle WA) is pretty filthy. And that Los Angeles County is especially dangerous. then there's "Sheriff Joe" in Arapahoe County (Phoenix AZ) whose jails make the AZ prison system look like a resort.

but the dividing line on whether someone is sentenced to jail or prison, definitely depends on the state. Florida, for instance, anyone sentenced to 364 days or less serves their time in jail. over that, it's prison. Kansas is the same way. In Minnesota, anyone sentenced to 366 days or more, goes to prison.

http://sheriff.org/faqs/displayfaq.cfm?id=4f892698-5c5d-40f8-b159-c9a0b6ed66f3


But yeah, I see there are states that will allow certain crimes to be sentenced up to two years in prison, as your friend found out. It looks like Texas will allow up to two years in jail. I read some comments on a prison talk board and by comments there, the consensus seems to be that county jails are "easier" and definitely safer.






[Edited on October 20, 2010 at 11:55 AM. Reason : ]

10/20/2010 11:42:52 AM